Should we get a new M / Q / Moneypenny for BOND 26 and beyond ?

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  • So many options man.

    Depends a lot on who plays the lead.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    So many options man.

    Depends a lot on who plays the lead.

    Yeah, so many good options.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    It's funny though, but I think Rosamund Pike would also be great as M.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Tokoloshe2 wrote: »
    If we're looking for a black M, as has been suggested in the past, Adrian Lester would be worth considering. Similar authority to the likes of David Harewood and he comes across convincingly as the Prime Minister in Channel 4's "The Undeclared War".

    Off Topic, but how is The Undeclared War? I just read a rather glowing review from a cybersecurity expert, but as usual I can't watch it here in Germany.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited August 2022 Posts: 5,970
    These are still my picks...

    M - Olivia Colman
    Q - Himesh Patel
    Moneypenny - Anya Chalotra
    Bill Tanner - Lennie James
  • Informe_James_BondInforme_James_Bond Dominican Republic
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    For the Mi6 team I like Colin Firth as M and Sacha Baron Cohen as Q. For Miss Moneypenny and Bill Tanner I don't have anyone in mind right now.
  • M - Jared Harris
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    Q - Himesh Patel
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    Moneypenny - Bel Powley
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    Tanner - David Oyelowo
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    I'd rather have Jared Harris as a villain. He was the only genuinely good thing about Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows. And a far better Moriarty than Andrew Scott ever was (some of it was due to writing, but he had a natural menace than Scott lacked).
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    To be fair Harris is one of these actors who's so versatile he could conceivably play M or the villain. I'd also say that if they wanted to lean more into the more 'morally ambiguous' side of the character, I can see Harris pulling that off better than I can Fiennes.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I don't think it's a necessity for them to be re-cast. I am especially fond of Naomi and her portrayal of Moneypenny and her ability to be an ambassador for the franchise. She seems to get it. This is always handy to have one cast member willing to make appearances, and be a torch bearer.

    In terms of the whole continuity thing, we have proven with Judi Dench that a new Bond doesn't need a new M.

  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    thedove wrote: »
    I don't think it's a necessity for them to be re-cast. I am especially fond of Naomi and her portrayal of Moneypenny and her ability to be an ambassador for the franchise. She seems to get it. This is always handy to have one cast member willing to make appearances, and be a torch bearer.

    In terms of the whole continuity thing, we have proven with Judi Dench that a new Bond doesn't need a new M.

    True 100%. I just wonder if Charmian Bond or May could become regulars. Reason being that Bond as a film series seems to be becoming more of a ensemble cast.
  • 007HallY wrote: »
    To be fair Harris is one of these actors who's so versatile he could conceivably play M or the villain. I'd also say that if they wanted to lean more into the more 'morally ambiguous' side of the character, I can see Harris pulling that off better than I can Fiennes.

    Precisely what I had in mind.
  • thedove wrote: »
    I don't think it's a necessity for them to be re-cast. I am especially fond of Naomi and her portrayal of Moneypenny and her ability to be an ambassador for the franchise. She seems to get it. This is always handy to have one cast member willing to make appearances, and be a torch bearer.

    In terms of the whole continuity thing, we have proven with Judi Dench that a new Bond doesn't need a new M.

    Naomi Harris has been great in championing the series, and I've really enjoyed her Moneypenny too. I could even see her playing M one day. Not in the sense of having been promoted from secretary, but in the same respect as how Dench clearly played two different Ms opposite Brosnan and Craig. And on that note, I too would like to see Fiennes carry on in the role with the next actor.
  • edited August 2022 Posts: 12,837
    Denbigh wrote: »
    These are still my picks...

    M - Olivia Colman
    Q - Himesh Patel
    Moneypenny - Anya Chalotra
    Bill Tanner - Lennie James

    Haven’t heard of Chalotra, but I’m liking the sound of the rest of them, nice picks. James, Colman and Patel are so good that I could easily picture them in more than one of those roles (Patel as Tanner, James as M, Colman as Q, I think that’d work too).

    More south asian representation in Bond would definitely be cool. It’s our biggest export and they make up such a big part of the UK. And speaking of representing more of the UK, it occured to me the other day that we’ve never heard a Welsh accent in a Bond film, have we? I think Rob Brydon could make a good Q. And him being in a Bond film before Steve Coogan would give them some great material if they ever make more of The Trip.
    thedove wrote: »
    I don't think it's a necessity for them to be re-cast. I am especially fond of Naomi and her portrayal of Moneypenny and her ability to be an ambassador for the franchise. She seems to get it. This is always handy to have one cast member willing to make appearances, and be a torch bearer.

    In terms of the whole continuity thing, we have proven with Judi Dench that a new Bond doesn't need a new M.

    I keep flip flopping on this. On the one hand, keeping Dench on worked, and I’d love to keep Wishaw. But then, would it undermine the finality of NTTD’s ending? And would that ending make it harder for audiences to accept any sort of carryover from the Craig era? Maybe a clean slate might be better. But if they did keep Wishaw I wouldn’t complain.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    And speaking of representing more of the UK, it occured to me the other day that we’ve never heard a Welsh accent in a Bond film, have we? I think Rob Brydon could make a good Q. And him being in a Bond film before Steve Coogan would give them some great material if they ever make more of The Trip.

    Rob Brydon? Love it, great idea.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    I've always loved the idea of Bond being basically a repertory company with many of the same actors and craftspeople producing the same five stories in different ways over and over again. So I like the idea of keeping the actors, but having them play obviously very different versions of the characters.
    Fiennes can do anything, so have him play up the former Admiral who's actually good at his job. Moneypenny is maybe no longer a former field agent and thinks these young 00s are just brutes. Whishaw is the only one I can't see playing Q any different. Not because he's a one-note actor, but because I like his Q so much.
    Or even better: Rotate them around. Imagine what Fiennes would do as Q! Whishaw as Tanner and Kinnear as Moneypenny in Naomie Harris' M's staff.
    Colin Salmon as M would also fall into this category.
  • edited August 2022 Posts: 4,139
    007HallY wrote: »
    To be fair Harris is one of these actors who's so versatile he could conceivably play M or the villain. I'd also say that if they wanted to lean more into the more 'morally ambiguous' side of the character, I can see Harris pulling that off better than I can Fiennes.

    Precisely what I had in mind.

    That certainly could be an interesting way to go. The M from the novels has shades of that (I guess you'd have to be - he's a man who essentially sends agents on missions that often turn out to be death sentences and probably has a million other hard decisions to make aside from that).

    It'll be interesting seeing how NTTD has an impact on the next incarnation of the character. I suspect they'll want to 'soften' M after the previous film featured him directly involved in the development of an experimental weapon (possibly one of the weirdest, most out of character creative decisions I've seen in a Bond film). Barring such a strange script decision, Harris could be effective, and he's an actor capable of portraying a range of qualities - aloofness, warmth, humour, menace etc.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    To be fair Harris is one of these actors who's so versatile he could conceivably play M or the villain. I'd also say that if they wanted to lean more into the more 'morally ambiguous' side of the character, I can see Harris pulling that off better than I can Fiennes.

    I'd still rather have him as a villain. Also because we need more mature villains in Bond films.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    To be fair Harris is one of these actors who's so versatile he could conceivably play M or the villain. I'd also say that if they wanted to lean more into the more 'morally ambiguous' side of the character, I can see Harris pulling that off better than I can Fiennes.

    I'd still rather have him as a villain. Also because we need more mature villains in Bond films.

    I can imagine him as a villain. My only concern is that he'd be brought on to essentially reprise his performance as Moriarty and would perhaps a bit too obvious a choice... like I said though he's such a versatile character actor it'd be great to see him in a Bond film.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I'm going to guess that he's already been suggested. But if not, I'll put forward the wonderful actor Jared Harris as M
    I hope Ben Whishaw can carry on as Q as I find him a good successor to the irreplaceable Desmond Llewelyn.
    As for Moneypenny, I have no idea. I'd be happy for Naomie Harris to return, though I hope the role is scaled back to the Lois Maxwell interactions.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited September 2022 Posts: 3,789
    I don't want any of the actors for the MI6 staffs to be replaced, I want them to stay in their roles for continuity, think of Bernard Lee, Lois Maxwell and Desmond Llewellyn staying for three Bond actors eras.

    But if you ask me for my choices of new Actors/Actress for the MI6 staffs:

    Charles Dance as M (Admiral Miles Messervy)
    Rachael Stirling as Moneypenny
    John Boyega as Q (Quartermaster)
    Tom Hardy as Bill Tanner (more closer to Fleming's version of Tanner, someone who's a close friend of Bond), and I also liked him to be more tough, maybe have him hold a gun too at some situations, that's why i think Hardy would be a good choice, he's rugged to Bond's sophisticated persona (make him some sort of Alec Trevelyan when it comes to his relationship with Bond (without the villainy of course).
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    To be fair Harris is one of these actors who's so versatile he could conceivably play M or the villain. I'd also say that if they wanted to lean more into the more 'morally ambiguous' side of the character, I can see Harris pulling that off better than I can Fiennes.

    I'd still rather have him as a villain. Also because we need more mature villains in Bond films.

    I can imagine him as a villain. My only concern is that he'd be brought on to essentially reprise his performance as Moriarty and would perhaps a bit too obvious a choice... like I said though he's such a versatile character actor it'd be great to see him in a Bond film.

    Maybe but with Moriarty he played an almost repertoire role. So many people played Moriarty. I was never a fan of Richie's Holmes, but it's the one casting decision (with Stephen Fry as Mycroft) that I think they did right.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    To be fair Harris is one of these actors who's so versatile he could conceivably play M or the villain. I'd also say that if they wanted to lean more into the more 'morally ambiguous' side of the character, I can see Harris pulling that off better than I can Fiennes.

    I'd still rather have him as a villain. Also because we need more mature villains in Bond films.

    I can imagine him as a villain. My only concern is that he'd be brought on to essentially reprise his performance as Moriarty and would perhaps a bit too obvious a choice... like I said though he's such a versatile character actor it'd be great to see him in a Bond film.

    Maybe but with Moriarty he played an almost repertoire role. So many people played Moriarty. I was never a fan of Richie's Holmes, but it's the one casting decision (with Stephen Fry as Mycroft) that I think they did right.

    I agree. Like I said, Harris is such a strong actor I can see him conceivably playing the villain, M, a Bond ally, or even a C type character...

    In fact, now that I mention it, the latter sounds kind of interesting. I can see Harris playing such a role not dissimilarly to his Lane Pryce performance on Mad Men, albeit with more sinister undertones. Then again perhaps it's just another hypothetical attempt at recasting Andrew Scott (coincidently another actor who has played Moriarty, although I don't think he was quite as good at it as Harris was).
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    Another thing I like about Harris is that he's still unknown, at least to a degree. He's not a big star. And I'd love villains to be played by unknown veteran actors again.
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    I'd say he's unknown in the sense that most people wouldn't necessarily know his name, but they'd certainly know his face, even if they'd have to squint a bit and go "hold on, that's the guy from Mad Men/Sherlock Holmes". But yeah, he's a fantastic actor. Would love to see him in a Bond film.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    edited September 2022 Posts: 2,641
    If none of the regulars come back, I'd like them to cast 3 relatively unknown actors in the roles. That way you can use them as little or as much you like, without feeling pressure to give them something to do
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I'd say he's unknown in the sense that most people wouldn't necessarily know his name, but they'd certainly know his face, even if they'd have to squint a bit and go "hold on, that's the guy from Mad Men/Sherlock Holmes". But yeah, he's a fantastic actor. Would love to see him in a Bond film.

    Yes unknown is a relative term. I like to say "famous unknown". People known for some roles, but not their name.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    Y'know, after all those rumours about Idris Elba being the next Bond (Which it's more than obvious that it's NOT gonna happen) this random thought came to my head:
    ¿What if Morgan Freeman portrayed Q in the next Bond?
  • Agent_Zero_OneAgent_Zero_One Ireland
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    Y'know, after all those rumours about Idris Elba being the next Bond (Which it's more than obvious that it's NOT gonna happen) this random thought came to my head:
    ¿What if Morgan Freeman portrayed Q in the next Bond?
    I'd say he's too famous and too old.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I think Freeman has already played Batman's Q(Fox) in Nolan's Batman.
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