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  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Not a single new frame in that trailer.... Gaaah
  • Posts: 16,154
    Really like this trailer. Could be my favorite of the Craig era trailers.
  • edited June 2021 Posts: 572
    I apologize if this is nothing new, but for whatever reason, this trailer seems new to me...


    As does this one:


    A few micro-second shots with both of these I haven't seen before...
  • phantomvicesphantomvices Mother Base
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    Second trailer is fanmade, first has some slowed down extended shots but nothing significant. Still, excellent find!
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    Both are fanmade.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    A poster, a new exciting poster, that’s what I want; I’ve seen all the footage that I want to see.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    talos7 wrote: »
    A poster, a new exciting poster, that’s what I want; I’ve seen all the footage that I want to see.

    Yep 100% agree. I'm already excited, I don't need to see any more footage
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    I’m fine with no new footage. I still want to be surprised by not seeing snippets of certain scenes.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I’m fine with no new footage. I still want to be surprised by not seeing snippets of certain scenes.

    Agreed. We have enough between the 2 trailers, multiple TV spots, the music video etc.
  • Posts: 151
    I hope the gen pub remembers plot details from Spectre that will be so crucial to NTTD. It’s been six years 🥲

    They won't. The overarching feedback I've gotten from non-fans and casual viewers regarding Spectre was that it was incredibly forgettable and most of them didn't recall much of the film. For that reason I was put off by the decision to continue directly from Spectre as I don't think it'd bode well for general audience reception.

    That said, I'd have to think Cary and the producers were aware of this (especially considering the gap between films) and probably have to re-establish a lot of what occurred in Spectre in NTTD.

    Spectre made $880 million at the box office, more than Casino and Quantum and $120m shy of equalling Skyfall. For the Studios I think you'll find they were very happy with Spectre.
  • Posts: 151
    Mallory wrote: »
    I bet NTTD only carries over the characters. I dont think any of the events of Spectre will be referenced at all.

    We see Blofeld in prison so I find it hard to believe they won't reference Spectre events to explain that.
  • Posts: 151
    antovolk wrote: »
    For those wondering - here in the UK a slightly re edited version of the Super Bowl spot (with the new MGM logo, the THE MISSION THAY CHANGES EVERYTHING BEGINS tagline, some footage from later trailers cut in) is playing with Fast 9, with the September 30 date.

    Very nice.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    JamesStock wrote: »
    I apologize if this is nothing new, but for whatever reason, this trailer seems new to me...


    As does this one:


    A few micro-second shots with both of these I haven't seen before...
    The second one is mine, I am attempting to get the link removed as it has been stolen and reposted on a different channel.
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
    edited June 2021 Posts: 482
    Someone wrote: »
    Spectre made $880 million at the box office, more than Casino and Quantum and $120m shy of equalling Skyfall. For the Studios I think you'll find they were very happy with Spectre.

    Apparently, Sony didn't make a lot of money from their involvement with the franchise, even if they essentially bankrolled four movies. They definitely got their investment back, but beyond the distribution fee, MGM (and Eon) commanded a large cut from the gross. But for Sony, it was a big prestige thing, that also allowed them to promote Blu-ray at the time Casino Royale got released on home video (and also in the movie, as, for some reason, the surveillance footage in Nassau that Bond watches is recorded on Blu-ray)

    The same thing happened for Paramount and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Lucasfilm owns the film, Paramount had the exclusive distribution rights for five films (the rights for the fifth one were bought back by Disney a few months after the Lucasfilm deal), but there were still negotiations, and it wasn't a huge moneymaker for the studio, per Wikipedia.
    Indiana Jones is distributed by one entity, Paramount, but owned by another, Lucasfilm. The pre-production arrangement between the two organizations granted Paramount 12.5% of the film's revenue. As the $185 million budget was larger than the original $125 million estimate, Lucas, Spielberg and Ford turned down large upfront salaries so Paramount could cover the film's costs. In order for Paramount to see a profit beyond its distribution fee, the film had to make over $400 million. At that point, Lucas, Spielberg, Ford, and those with smaller profit-sharing deals would also begin to collect their cut.

    Once again, it was almost impossible that the film would flop, but the final deal for this entry was that Paramount needed it to make over $400m and then had very little financial incentive if it made more (it made $790m in all). Once again, it was more of a prestige thing to have two out of the three biggest releases of 2008 (they also distributed Iron Man) and to have one of the most financially successful films of all time (even if they didn't particularly benefit from it financially).
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    No NTTD trailer for me before F9.

    There was a neat (small) section of F9 involving Helen Mirren that was very Bondian, music and all.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Don't forget four upcoming sponsorship-vlogs on DHL's site and maybe also vlogs from EON plus at least 250 unpublished stills by Greg W. And Nicola Dove has also a treasure of stills we haven't seeen yet.

    https://www.notimetodie.dhl/en

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Someone wrote: »
    Spectre made $880 million at the box office, more than Casino and Quantum and $120m shy of equalling Skyfall. For the Studios I think you'll find they were very happy with Spectre.

    Apparently, Sony didn't make a lot of money from their involvement with the franchise, even if they essentially bankrolled four movies. They definitely got their investment back, but beyond the distribution fee, MGM (and Eon) commanded a large cut from the gross. But for Sony, it was a big prestige thing, that also allowed them to promote Blu-ray at the time Casino Royale got released on home video (and also in the movie, as, for some reason, the surveillance footage in Nassau that Bond watches is recorded on Blu-ray)

    The same thing happened for Paramount and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Lucasfilm owns the film, Paramount had the exclusive distribution rights for five films (the rights for the fifth one were bought back by Disney a few months after the Lucasfilm deal), but there were still negotiations, and it wasn't a huge moneymaker for the studio, per Wikipedia.
    Indiana Jones is distributed by one entity, Paramount, but owned by another, Lucasfilm. The pre-production arrangement between the two organizations granted Paramount 12.5% of the film's revenue. As the $185 million budget was larger than the original $125 million estimate, Lucas, Spielberg and Ford turned down large upfront salaries so Paramount could cover the film's costs. In order for Paramount to see a profit beyond its distribution fee, the film had to make over $400 million. At that point, Lucas, Spielberg, Ford, and those with smaller profit-sharing deals would also begin to collect their cut.

    Once again, it was almost impossible that the film would flop, but the final deal for this entry was that Paramount needed it to make over $400m and then had very little financial incentive if it made more (it made $790m in all). Once again, it was more of a prestige thing to have two out of the three biggest releases of 2008 (they also distributed Iron Man) and to have one of the most financially successful films of all time (even if they didn't particularly benefit from it financially).

    The deal Paramount made with LucasFilm must have been more lucrative than you put it, because they still own all the distribution rights to the Indiana Jones home media for the first four films (for which they just released the 4K disc set) and the Young Indiana Jones series. You won’t even find those on Disney+, because that’s all on their platform Paramount+. And though Disney bought off the production/distribution rights to the fifth film, Paramount still gets an undisclosed cut of the profits probably in similar manner to THE AVENGERS and IRON MAN 3, where their studio logos are still present. In fact, the former is currently on Paramount+, as opposed to being a Disney+ exclusive like so many other Disney titles.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if we see Paramount’s logo on Indy 5, likely to transition to a mountain at whatever location Indy is at as traditionally done in the four films.
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    Dune moves clear of NTTD in the US

    https://deadline.com/2021/06/dune-many-saints-of-newark-sopranos-release-date-changes-warner-bros-1234781687/

    I wouldnt be surprised if NTTD pulls forward a week in the US, to Oct 1st. Have those imax screens to itself for longer.
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
    edited June 2021 Posts: 482

    The deal Paramount made with LucasFilm must have been more lucrative than you put it, because they still own all the distribution rights to the Indiana Jones home media for the first four films (for which they just released the 4K disc set) and the Young Indiana Jones series. You won’t even find those on Disney+, because that’s all on their platform Paramount+. And though Disney bought off the production/distribution rights to the fifth film, Paramount still gets an undisclosed cut of the profits probably in similar manner to THE AVENGERS and IRON MAN 3, where their studio logos are still present. In fact, the former is currently on Paramount+, as opposed to being a Disney+ exclusive like so many other Disney titles.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if we see Paramount’s logo on Indy 5, likely to transition to a mountain at whatever location Indy is at as traditionally done in the four films.

    The deal Paramount made with Lucasfilm was a course correction to what happened to Alan Ladd Jr. with Star Wars, as he had accepted granting Lucasfilm the intellectual property (including merchandising) and full rights to the sequels, at the time the board at Fox didn't even believe in the project. Ladd accepted these terms to get the budget lower and the board happier. After Star Wars performed slightly better at the box office than The Other Side of Midnight, the board rewarded him by asking him so step down, when they realized they had very little control over the sequels.

    The boss at Paramount didn't want to meet the same fate, so, right from the start, he asked for full distribution rights in perpetuity for five movies when he was approached for a new potential Lucasfilm franchise. And the trilogy stuck to the terms of the initial deal.
    When Lucas, Spielberg and Ford were ready to return to Indiana Jones, a few things were renegotiated, as the leverage was then mostly in favor of the main talents whose involvement was expected. Paramount didn't try to bleed Lucasfilm and co. dry, but took a rather backseat approach to producing the movie, adapting terms when it went over budget.

    It WOULD surprise me, and it would surprise everybody if the Paramount mountain was at the beginning of Indy V. This is not at all the same situation as with Iron Man 3 or The Avengers, which already were in development by the time Disney bought Marvel and Paramount had more cards to play in negotiations. Notice that the latest editions for Star Wars VII-IX haven't added the 20th Century Fox fanfare, even if the main Star Wars theme was written to segue naturally from the fanfare and Disney owns Fox. But it wouldn't surprise me if we saw a castle with a tower, mirroring the main Disney logo.
    And anterior deals are the main reason for which there is no Hulk standalone film in development. Universal handled the two existing films and had rights over the sequels. So, Marvel can shoe Hulk into films involving other characters, whether it is about Thor or the Avengers, but they'd have to find some settlement with Universal if they wanted to have "Hulk" in the title.

    All of this to say that studios don't necessarily have ironclad contracts with production companies, that nest them almost all of the profits and the control. MGM hasn't got one with Eon (partly due to the situation they had inherited from UA, which was always more conciliant with artists and producers), and neither did Sony Pictures with MGM from Casino Royale to Spectre. And the balance of power can always shift at various points, giving one party more leverage for negotiations and renegotiations.
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    Someone wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    I bet NTTD only carries over the characters. I dont think any of the events of Spectre will be referenced at all.

    We see Blofeld in prison so I find it hard to believe they won't reference Spectre events to explain that.

    Yeah, I think it is almost a certainty bits of Spectre are brought up — much as all the Craig ones reference events from other films. In fact, I'd hazard a guess it is even more than the rest since this was seems to really be leaning into the sequel aspect due to bringing back the girl and starting up right where the last one ended.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    antovolk wrote: »

    “Only in theaters” is a nice little gesture towards the streaming industry.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I do quite like that shot of Craig. It's nicely offbeat and he looks great.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Neat pics. Wouldn't be able to fit that standee in the spare room. I have the Spectre one, it's about 7 foot tall. The bases on these things are assembled with nuts and bolts!
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Neat pics. Wouldn't be able to fit that standee in the spare room. I have the Spectre one, it's about 7 foot tall. The bases on these things are assembled with nuts and bolts!

    Comparison. Try walk away with this one. Haha..

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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    It took me and one cinema employee half an hour to disassemble it, thanks to convenient wing nuts.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited June 2021 Posts: 8,205
    I hate to be contrarian , but I’m not crazy about this photo, particularly Daniel’s expression ; it’s a bit blank. It needs a bit more of the “up to mischief “ look that Connery did so well.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I agree somewhat, but let's not forget that, for Bond, "this time it's personal"! :))
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited June 2021 Posts: 8,216
    The banner version of that poster was pretty great. The one that followed the same motif as this one from CR:

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    I don't know if it was a design that was shelved or if it was only being used in certain places, but I liked the idea of an actor's final film using a similar poster design to that of his first.
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