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Possible but a stretch.
The more simple is the more likely.
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor
Dearest friend, I know what an occam's razor is since I've heard our man Connery in The Name of the Rose in 87 explain it ;)
And...you're absolutely right!
Then how does this tie in with the film's plot? More coincidence? That the villain who has the weapon and who has kidnapped the scientist just so happened to run across Madeleine when she was a young girl?
I don't buy it.
Furthermore, the clothing, surrounding vehicles, and guns are contemporary.
The more likely explanation is that the young girl is Madeleine's daughter, whose father was given full custody when she was just a toddler. How that fits into the story is anyone's guess.
I had no doubt that you would know what it is; that was just an assist for the less enlightened ;)
But that just sounds like your average Sunday afternoon Jean Claude Van Dam movie :(
Bond made a promise to keep safe a man's daughter, now he has to keep the same man's granddaughter safe? Laaaazy writing, that would be.
There must be something else to it.
Seydoux can play a younger character, Malek can play an older character. I think it's perfectly feasible. Specially because they can tinker with Malek's face digitally and make him slightly younger in the flashback. Which would suffice to make the contrast in the future, 20 years later. Can work.
The Toyota in the Atlantic Road were old as well. At least 20 years old, and very contrasting to the Land Rovers. Wasn't the kid in one of them? With the blonde girl with the handkerchief (Madeleine's mother?) and the guy with the dots on his face (Mr. White?).
Social media channels and particularly this forum are used by media journalists to glean information and fact check. Our theories are, more often than not, taken and posited as fact. The young Madeleine rumour is just that in my opinion. Someone posting it to IMDB is not verification.
It could be just a personal car parked outside, yes. And the machine gun could very well be two decades old.
And the Toyotas in the Atlantic Road are at least 20 years old. And the girl was reported to be in the back seat of one, not on the V8 AM.
Where does the AM slot in?
Why is that? We've touched on it quite a bit above. If this is a flashback that shows events that occurred in the late 90's, Malek's character would be roughly 20 years old. If you look at pictures of him through the years, he looks virtually the same at nearly 40.
Bond retracing their steps? Years later. Two separate shoots, weren't they?
What if there are several flashbacks throughout the film?
I wonder about the Toyotas, They used the modern day Range Rovers there too, and there might be quite a bit going on in that scene. Here's from one of the Dagbladet articles, covering the test track driving before the Atlantic Road shoot:
https://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/forste-bilder-av-hemmelig-bond-bil/71151582
Very, very odd. Still, they could justapose the two timelines, having an old Toyota overtaking the AM, and then cutting to a recent Land Rover overtaking it. A sort of way for us to see the past happening in that same place. Farfetched, yes. Could it work? Yes.
Who knows? All I know is that I've been following these productions online since 1999 and I've never been this confused before. I'm loving it.
No more news in Norwegian media as far I can see. The incentives given does suggest they'll shoot longer than what's not even two weeks in total (as far as I remember). And if this is it, then the Norwegian Film Institute has thrown unnecessary large amounts of money at the production, IMO.
Equal amounts of fun and confusing, for sure! Will be interesting to see what they're planning.
Anyway I was taking a look at the photos of the filming of that....I'm thinking the two face replacement actors in that SUV are supposed to be Seydoux and Magnussen. The toy in the back - something from Madeleine's childhood possibly.
Do you have the photos, @antovolk? Would love to see them again.
@Univex Here are all the images featuring the doubles with the face replacement dots:
https://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/derfor-har-bond-skuespillerne-prikker-i-ansiktet/71154844
And based off the V8's presence in the London scenes, I'd imagine this Atlantic Road stuff comes after that, the start of the third act where Bond presumably asks M and the MI6 home team for help... it'd also make sense in that case if Magnussen's CIA guy tags along, possibly because Felix ends up getting offed?
@RC7 I don't think we know for sure if 1. Malek was on *that* frozen lake set and 2. whether that was the only scene being filmed in Norway at that time. Only thing connecting Malek to that specific possible flashback sequence is the assailant being his stunt double.
After seeing that video, I stand corrected. No flashback there. They're filming the two Land Rovers chasing the Toyota. It's all the same shoot.
The mystery thickens.
I think we do know it's the first shoot - believe he explicitly mentioned the weather, just don't think that frozen lake scene we've seen photos of is the only thing they shot...
Or, her mother and Mr. White.
I have seen the coat worn by the girl in those scenes being worn today - i.e. her clothing is contemporary, sold by M&S.
https://www.marksandspencer.com/ombre-padded-coat-3-16-years-/p/p60207119?extid=ps_gglpla_Kids&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3uboBRDCARIsAO2XcYAmj1uSUTcy5vELmHt1g3DpXRxS50VOrB-ai0F28OI-4PLSFPIAJlQaAteLEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Possible , but there were coats in the 90's that looked the same. I was there :D
Roger's overcoat in LALD was beautiful. I have one just like it. A bit like Craig's in SP's Rome funeral. That 90's inspired children coat is awful.