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He resigned at the beginning of LTK but the poster still has a big 007 on it; it’s just his brand.
Even if M doesn’t have him down in a file as 007, he’s still James Bond 007.
That's practically a field day for the media and internet warriors. I doubt EON are that short-sighted.
Let's see first if Nomi is indeed 007, which seems likely.
Something that was easy to identify: Moneypenny's jug, as seen in her office, on the side table next to agent 007, Nomi.
Cary Fukunaga has stated that he liked the aesthetics of YOLT, and since we see a lot of stainless steel in the YOLT sets, perhaps this jug - designed in 1967 - is a little nod to that film.
It'd be an extremely ballsy move either way as there are so many people on both sides.
Also didn't Barbara mention that James Bond will never be a woman earlier last year? idk about the 007 number but unless they are going ahead with the Nomi spinoff then I dont think it'll be Craig Bond passing the torch onto Nomi unless they plan to have a Marvel-style spinoff for Nomi.
Thanks. Good explanation. I'm guessing the new 1min trailer will just be a re-cut of scenes we've seen in other trailers.
Yeah, although I like the look of what we’ve seen of Nomi so far I can’t imagine a spin-off with her, because she’d just be doing Bond things in a Bond world, driving Astons, wearing Omegas, getting gadgets from Q and defeating supervillains, so you may as well just make a Bond movie.
Personally do I think it's a bit of a silly decision? Yes. But my thoughts really don't matter about it lol. It also makes sense given the narrative storyline that they've gone for over five self contained movies. It's certainly not going to stop me from watching the movie and I think that's where Nomi's involvement ends. I was more worried that they may try to make JB look stupid through dialogue and that fear was relieved as I think it was DC who said in an interview recently that it was important that they touched up the dialogue but not at the expense of James. Believe me, that would have rubbed me up the wrong way a lot more.
I think if they do make a big deal out of 007 then they will have gone about it wrong as it shouldn't be important nor the focal point of the movie. Literally the only one's that seem to be bothered are 'us' or the rags. Beyond it being one line used by M I don't see it as being anything important.
No man it’s well known - even from set photos taken in Italy - it won’t go that way.
Weird thing is I read something the other day saying they shot the nightclub scenes in Jamaica- they had to turn the aircon off because it was so noisy and everyone was sweating. I did think it seemed odd they would shoot them there as it looks like something you can do in London. Mind you, didn’t that Boom Shot Dis video have some club stuff in? Maybe they shot some scenes in both places.
If Nomi is indeed 007, she isn’t gonna be losing that title or giving it back. It makes no sense at all. As others have mentioned in the current climate of movie making, and just in the context of realism within the world of the movie, putting in the effort to make Nomi the new 007 after Bond’s retirement to then give it back to him, would be incredibly stupid.
And do we really think after five films, Craig’s James Bond gives a rats ass about the 007 code name? Again, it doesn’t have the same meaning within the context of the movie.
Nomi also won’t be getting her own spin-off, she’ll just be the 007 within this continuity, before the whole things rebooted with Bond 26 in whatever context.
I think this is exactly it too.
Agreed.
But I don’t understand the if. She is, it’s confirmed since almost a year.
The only question mark is that Bond Cars book which mentions Nomi as 003 but clearly that's a bit of a misdirect given the Trailer 2 international dubs confirming...
Ah okay I didn’t even know about that book. Anyway I don’t understand why they kept this Nomi is 007 a secret in the English trailer. It looks like they kinda feared some backfire…
Yes but that was from Pinewood. Only exterior shots in Jamaica
I think one of two things will happen:
- the designation will be handed back to him during the middle London scene. During his discussion with M, he decides to come back to MI6 and take the 007 name back, and at the end where he stays at the lair to fight Safin while he's being bombed, he hands the 007 name back and the story ends ambiguously as to who actually gets the 007 designation.
- Nomi remains as the 'official' 007, and there is contention to the codename through the entire movie. At the end where Bond stays at the lair to fight, there is some sort of dialogue where Bond and Nomi discuss the designation and the history behind it, a nod to all of the meaning and symbolism behind it, and she thus decides of her own volition to surrender it to him, deciding she is not meant to follow the path of it - perhaps for something without the stigma of the 007 name, to carve out her own legacy. She escapes with Madeleine and Mathilde as 003, and Bond's own fate is ambiguous.
All in all, I think Nomi's tenure as '007' will be temporary for NTTD, with some sort of ambiguous ending as to keep fans from all sides satisfied to some degree.
Craig is the only Bond we've seen earn his 00 status and for a film seemingly obsessed with tieing up loose story threads from Casino, it'll be odd not to see him end his tenure as James Bond 007
I think the simplest explanation is likeliest. Bond retired, the 007 code number is available, it's now assigned to Nomi, that's a good running source of tension and comic relief throughout the film, and it's still assigned to her when the film's over and Bond's fate is...well, who knows?
Correct.
It may be the other way around: Bond stays behind, and Nomi rescues everyone and everything.
(And in the last scene they show us, that Bond is still alive - or they don't show it and leave it to our imagination if he survied or not.)
Yes exactly.
Regarding Bond’s fate, even tho thanks to Fukunaga we know the film will end with the “JB will return” card, there are just two possible outcomes imo. So putting together set pics, call sheets leaks, the quote from his German voice that doesn’t know how the film ends and some speculation from my part:
2. He’s presumed dead but in the end when Madeleine comes back to Matera driving his V8 (conveniently left at her cabin in Norway before the wood chase with the Toyota suv) with Mathilde on her side he’s surprisingly there waiting for them, in front of the same honeymoon hotel were they spent that romantic night 5 years before. Or perhaps Swann and Mathilde arrive in Matera and they see his DB5 parked in front of the hotel, realizing he’s still alive and then boom the 007 theme kicks off… black screen… JB will return!
The latter is the cooler for me.
Yeah. The latter one is really cool.
But they should put the "James Bond will return" at the beginning of the end credits, not at the end, like they did for the last films.
I think she will bring Swann
EDIT: @Jan1985 wasn’t at the beginning in SF? Yeah right after the 50 years card.