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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,363
    Contraband wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Minor BTS-gossip:
    EON hired a british model agency to source black models working as extras in the jamaican nightclub scenes (shot at The Richard Attenborough Stage, Pinewood). And on top of that, on set it turns out that Lashana's hands was not that good looking (ugly basically) so they had to use a model from the agency for the close-up doing something important with her hands. The same model also doubled for Lashana in full tactical outfit in other unknown scenes.

    Weird thing is I read something the other day saying they shot the nightclub scenes in Jamaica- they had to turn the aircon off because it was so noisy and everyone was sweating. I did think it seemed odd they would shoot them there as it looks like something you can do in London. Mind you, didn’t that Boom Shot Dis video have some club stuff in? Maybe they shot some scenes in both places.

    Yes but that was from Pinewood. Only exterior shots in Jamaica

    Well no, the point of that video was that it was BTS on their shooting in the Caribbean.
    I know they did build the nightclub in Pinewood too but I have a feeling they perhaps shot in both places.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited August 2021 Posts: 3,022
    mtm wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Minor BTS-gossip:
    EON hired a british model agency to source black models working as extras in the jamaican nightclub scenes (shot at The Richard Attenborough Stage, Pinewood). And on top of that, on set it turns out that Lashana's hands was not that good looking (ugly basically) so they had to use a model from the agency for the close-up doing something important with her hands. The same model also doubled for Lashana in full tactical outfit in other unknown scenes.

    Weird thing is I read something the other day saying they shot the nightclub scenes in Jamaica- they had to turn the aircon off because it was so noisy and everyone was sweating. I did think it seemed odd they would shoot them there as it looks like something you can do in London. Mind you, didn’t that Boom Shot Dis video have some club stuff in? Maybe they shot some scenes in both places.

    Yes but that was from Pinewood. Only exterior shots in Jamaica

    Well no, the point of that video was that it was BTS on their shooting in the Caribbean.
    I know they did build the nightclub in Pinewood too but I have a feeling they perhaps shot in both places.

    I have asked one of the crew members. Waiting for an answer..
  • BMB007BMB007
    Posts: 560
    matt_u wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    NTTD doesn't strike me as being a 'comeback' story (in the end) even though the trailers sell it that way a bit.

    I think the simplest explanation is likeliest. Bond retired, the 007 code number is available, it's now assigned to Nomi, that's a good running source of tension and comic relief throughout the film, and it's still assigned to her when the film's over and Bond's fate is...well, who knows?

    Yes exactly.

    Regarding Bond’s fate, even tho thanks to Fukunaga we know the film will end with the “JB will return” card, there are just two possible outcomes imo. So putting together set pics, call sheets leaks, the quote from his German voice that doesn’t know how the film ends and some speculation from my part:
    1. He’s presumed dead and we are left wondering if he’s still alive or not;
    2. He’s presumed dead but in the end when Madeleine comes back to Matera driving his V8 (conveniently left at her cabin in Norway before the wood chase with the Toyota suv) with Mathilde on her side he’s surprisingly there waiting for them, in front of the same honeymoon hotel were they spent that romantic night 5 years before. Or perhaps Swann and Mathilde arrive in Matera and they see his DB5 parked in front of the hotel, realizing he’s still alive and then boom the 007 theme kicks off… black screen… JB will return!

    The latter is the cooler for me.
    Agree 100% on the latter. Imagine how cool it'd be if
    Some funeral for him, everyone thinks he's dead. Madeleine and the kid end up at the hotel (think about Spectre — "he kept coming here after the divorce"), and when they go in the Bond theme starts playing and the last shot is him alive with that smug Bond smirk on his face.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,537
    Contraband wrote: »
    Minor BTS-gossip:
    EON hired a british model agency to source black models working as extras in the jamaican nightclub scenes (shot at The Richard Attenborough Stage, Pinewood). And on top of that, on set it turns out that Lashana's hands was not that good looking (ugly basically) so they had to use a model from the agency for the close-up doing something important with her hands. The same model also doubled for Lashana in full tactical outfit in other unknown scenes.

    Hand doubles are fairly common for close-ups, so that's nothing too unusual.

  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,617
    She must have man-hands.

  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,583
    mtm wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Bond has resigned. Chilling in Jamaica.

    Nomi is the new 007. Action in Cuba, etc.

    Bond visit M and M wants Bond back in active service. Bond agree and get's his code number back.

    Nomi now a double O something else

    007 and Nomi goes after Safin on his island.

    This is a likely scenario. I still can't fathom a 007 film in which James Bond is not 007. That is the brand. LOL

    He resigned at the beginning of LTK but the poster still has a big 007 on it; it’s just his brand.
    Even if M doesn’t have him down in a file as 007, he’s still James Bond 007.

    Indeed he did. You're correct. And he resigned (briefly) in CR and was assumed dead in SF. But in each case, nobody else was given the agent # 007. If the rumors are true, we'd all be heading off to a 007 movie in which James Bond is not 007. :-O
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    TripAces wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Bond has resigned. Chilling in Jamaica.

    Nomi is the new 007. Action in Cuba, etc.

    Bond visit M and M wants Bond back in active service. Bond agree and get's his code number back.

    Nomi now a double O something else

    007 and Nomi goes after Safin on his island.

    This is a likely scenario. I still can't fathom a 007 film in which James Bond is not 007. That is the brand. LOL

    He resigned at the beginning of LTK but the poster still has a big 007 on it; it’s just his brand.
    Even if M doesn’t have him down in a file as 007, he’s still James Bond 007.
    ...we'd all be heading off to a 007 movie in which James Bond is not 007...
    ...but that changes nothing. He's still James Bond.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    TripAces wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Bond has resigned. Chilling in Jamaica.

    Nomi is the new 007. Action in Cuba, etc.

    Bond visit M and M wants Bond back in active service. Bond agree and get's his code number back.

    Nomi now a double O something else

    007 and Nomi goes after Safin on his island.

    This is a likely scenario. I still can't fathom a 007 film in which James Bond is not 007. That is the brand. LOL

    He resigned at the beginning of LTK but the poster still has a big 007 on it; it’s just his brand.
    Even if M doesn’t have him down in a file as 007, he’s still James Bond 007.

    Indeed he did. You're correct. And he resigned (briefly) in CR and was assumed dead in SF. But in each case, nobody else was given the agent # 007. If the rumors are true, we'd all be heading off to a 007 movie in which James Bond is not 007. :-O

    Just for the record MI6 give the 007 codename to Nomi 3 years after his resignation and JB wasn’t 007 in the YOLT novel. Nothing shocking to me…
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    The 007 thing has never bothered me though, because it's still going to be:

    Albert R. Broccoli's Eon Productions Ltd

    Presents

    Daniel Craig

    as

    Ian Fleming's
    James Bond
    007

    in

    NO TIME TO DIE

    And straight into Daniel Kleinman's ethereal world.


  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    edited August 2021 Posts: 16,153
    Maybe it will read............


    Albert R Broccoli's Eon Productions Ltd

    present

    LASHANA LYNCH

    as

    Neal Purvis and Robert Wade's

    NOMI 007

    in NO TIME TO DIE

    (with Daniel Craig as ......uh.........uh..........oh, JAMES BOND.)
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,641
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Maybe it will read............


    Albert R Broccoli's Eon Productions Ltd

    present

    LASHANA LYNCH

    as

    Neal Purvis and Robert Wade's

    NOMI 007

    in NO TIME TO DIE

    (with Daniel Craig as ......uh.........uh..........oh, JAMES BOND.)

    Hahahaha imagine
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    The 007 thing has never bothered me though, because it's still going to be:

    Albert R. Broccoli's Eon Productions Ltd

    Presents

    Daniel Craig

    as

    Ian Fleming's
    James Bond
    007

    in

    NO TIME TO DIE

    And straight into Daniel Kleinman's ethereal world.


    Yes, why would they change it?

    The hardcore "troo fanz" will promptly bury the Craig movies if they do, but they just won't ever, ever ever do it.

    Case closed.

    Ah it's so good to be back. *lights cigar*

  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,537
    007-monaco.jpg


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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2021 Posts: 16,363
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Minor BTS-gossip:
    EON hired a british model agency to source black models working as extras in the jamaican nightclub scenes (shot at The Richard Attenborough Stage, Pinewood). And on top of that, on set it turns out that Lashana's hands was not that good looking (ugly basically) so they had to use a model from the agency for the close-up doing something important with her hands. The same model also doubled for Lashana in full tactical outfit in other unknown scenes.

    Hand doubles are fairly common for close-ups, so that's nothing too unusual.

    Although I'm always surprised when actors do do their own hand stuff. I watched something Jeremy Renner was in recently and you can't mistake his hands!

    I also think this story may well be absolute 'stick-shift'-style nonsense. I watched the Harper's Bazaar video with Ms Lynch earlier and she has totally normal and quite elegant hands.
    TripAces wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Bond has resigned. Chilling in Jamaica.

    Nomi is the new 007. Action in Cuba, etc.

    Bond visit M and M wants Bond back in active service. Bond agree and get's his code number back.

    Nomi now a double O something else

    007 and Nomi goes after Safin on his island.

    This is a likely scenario. I still can't fathom a 007 film in which James Bond is not 007. That is the brand. LOL

    He resigned at the beginning of LTK but the poster still has a big 007 on it; it’s just his brand.
    Even if M doesn’t have him down in a file as 007, he’s still James Bond 007.

    Indeed he did. You're correct. And he resigned (briefly) in CR and was assumed dead in SF. But in each case, nobody else was given the agent # 007. If the rumors are true, we'd all be heading off to a 007 movie in which James Bond is not 007. :-O

    As he wasn't in LTK. Doesn't make any difference, he's still James Bond 007.
  • Goldeneye1994Goldeneye1994 Milford, Michigan
    Posts: 14
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    007-monaco.jpg


    007-monaco-nttd.jpg

    No Time To Die world premiere in Monaco?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,363
    It's not the world premiere, it's just a (very expensive) screening. I don't think any of the cast or crew will be there, unless they manage to persuade some of them to.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Minor BTS-gossip:
    EON hired a british model agency to source black models working as extras in the jamaican nightclub scenes (shot at The Richard Attenborough Stage, Pinewood). And on top of that, on set it turns out that Lashana's hands was not that good looking (ugly basically) so they had to use a model from the agency for the close-up doing something important with her hands. The same model also doubled for Lashana in full tactical outfit in other unknown scenes.

    Hand doubles are fairly common for close-ups, so that's nothing too unusual.

    Don't I know it. 30 years in the swedish film&tv industry..

  • octofingeroctofinger
    Posts: 787
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    007-monaco.jpg


    007-monaco-nttd.jpg

    Sadly, Monte Carlo has been overrun by tourists in running shoes and cargo shorts. For me, the casino at Baden-Baden is the only grand old dame left in Europe.

    Still, I wouldn't say no to a free ticket.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    @mtm It's not nonsense.
    The lady in question works at Elite Models UK (hired by EON) and she was responsible for scouting extras for the nightclub scenes. And for some reason they (as in Cary, BB, MGW) couldn't use Lashana's hands. Instead they asked this lady and she said yes. Plus she also doubled in full tactial gear.

    The lady then went on a date with my source some weeks ago and showed him set photos on her cellphone of herself, extras, crew, etc, but she couldn't talk about the plot or details due to the NDA. That's it.

  • PenpenPenpen
    edited August 2021 Posts: 38
    mtm wrote: »

    Well no, the point of that video was that it was BTS on their shooting in the Caribbean.
    I know they did build the nightclub in Pinewood too but I have a feeling they perhaps shot in both places.

    Definitely filmed in both places, and also the air con thing is hilarious, of course the air con was turned off for filming, it always is, it's too noisy.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    mtm wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Minor BTS-gossip:
    EON hired a british model agency to source black models working as extras in the jamaican nightclub scenes (shot at The Richard Attenborough Stage, Pinewood). And on top of that, on set it turns out that Lashana's hands was not that good looking (ugly basically) so they had to use a model from the agency for the close-up doing something important with her hands. The same model also doubled for Lashana in full tactical outfit in other unknown scenes.

    Hand doubles are fairly common for close-ups, so that's nothing too unusual.

    Although I'm always surprised when actors do do their own hand stuff. I watched something Jeremy Renner was in recently and you can't mistake his hands!

    I also think this story may well be absolute 'stick-shift'-style nonsense. I watched the Harper's Bazaar video with Ms Lynch earlier and she has totally normal and quite elegant hands.

    The reasons for using any body part stand in are endless. This is a specific description from a casting agency that I have used.


    Hand Double

    Hand doubles are used for shot inserts to show a character performing a skill that the principal actor can’t convincingly portray. These skills can range anywhere from playing instruments to performing (fake) surgery. Hand doubles can also be used for inserts of ordinary actions, like holding a phone or opening a door, freeing up actors to shoot other scenes.

    Possibly she has to be seen effortlessly disassembling a gun or something of the sort.

  • BMB007BMB007
    Posts: 560
    talos7 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Minor BTS-gossip:
    EON hired a british model agency to source black models working as extras in the jamaican nightclub scenes (shot at The Richard Attenborough Stage, Pinewood). And on top of that, on set it turns out that Lashana's hands was not that good looking (ugly basically) so they had to use a model from the agency for the close-up doing something important with her hands. The same model also doubled for Lashana in full tactical outfit in other unknown scenes.

    Hand doubles are fairly common for close-ups, so that's nothing too unusual.

    Although I'm always surprised when actors do do their own hand stuff. I watched something Jeremy Renner was in recently and you can't mistake his hands!

    I also think this story may well be absolute 'stick-shift'-style nonsense. I watched the Harper's Bazaar video with Ms Lynch earlier and she has totally normal and quite elegant hands.

    The reasons for using any body part stand in are endless. This is a specific description from a casting agency that I have used.


    Hand Double

    Hand doubles are used for shot inserts to show a character performing a skill that the principal actor can’t convincingly portray. These skills can range anywhere from playing instruments to performing (fake) surgery. Hand doubles can also be used for inserts of ordinary actions, like holding a phone or opening a door, freeing up actors to shoot other scenes.

    Possibly she has to be seen effortlessly disassembling a gun or something of the sort.

    My favorite hand doubles are when the director uses their hands for pick-up shots when they need something quick haha. Zack Snyder playing the role of Batman in BVS for a shot of him in the fight with Superman holding a gun.
  • MalloryMallory
    Posts: 2,161
    My favourite hand doubles are the ones in Thunderbirds.
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
    Posts: 575
    I've done some hand modelling... It's more common than you think!!! Well, if you have nice hands!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2021 Posts: 16,363
    Contraband wrote: »
    @mtm It's not nonsense.
    The lady in question works at Elite Models UK (hired by EON) and she was responsible for scouting extras for the nightclub scenes. And for some reason they (as in Cary, BB, MGW) couldn't use Lashana's hands. Instead they asked this lady and she said yes. Plus she also doubled in full tactial gear.

    The lady then went on a date with my source some weeks ago and showed him set photos on her cellphone of herself, extras, crew, etc, but she couldn't talk about the plot or details due to the NDA. That's it.

    'For some reason' isn't quite the same as 'she has ugly hands' though. Sounds more like this lady is just a general double, like most of the main cast get.

    She's got perfectly nice hands:

    Penpen wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »

    Well no, the point of that video was that it was BTS on their shooting in the Caribbean.
    I know they did build the nightclub in Pinewood too but I have a feeling they perhaps shot in both places.

    Definitely filmed in both places, and also the air con thing is hilarious, of course the air con was turned off for filming, it always is, it's too noisy.

    Ah really? Did you read that too? I can't remember where I saw it.
    Mallory wrote: »
    My favourite hand doubles are the ones in Thunderbirds.

    Mine too: the ones in the 2000s movie version were genius :)
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,133
    Hand doubles in Bond films have been semi common for years.
    Terence Young in FRWL writing on the photo of Tania
    Peter Lamont in TB retrieving the watch and ID tags
    And Pierce Brosnan's son (Sean?) yanking on the handbrake in the DB5 in GE.
    I'm sure there are countless others.
  • delfloriadelfloria
    Posts: 1,859
    I hand doubled for David McCallum as Illya Kuryakin in the Return of UNCLE TV movie. I know it's not Bond but I couldn't resist. Back on topic........ who is going to Monaco?
  • moneyofpropre2moneyofpropre2 France
    edited August 2021 Posts: 859
    There was hand doubles also for members of the Scooby Gang in the last act of Spectre (according to the call sheet of this movie).
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,363
    Benny wrote: »
    Hand doubles in Bond films have been semi common for years.
    Terence Young in FRWL writing on the photo of Tania
    Peter Lamont in TB retrieving the watch and ID tags
    And Pierce Brosnan's son (Sean?) yanking on the handbrake in the DB5 in GE.
    I'm sure there are countless others.

    Yeah exactly, it’s not because they all have horrible hands- it’s because these shots take a lot of time to set up and the cast members’ time can be better spent elsewhere.
  • Jan1985Jan1985
    Posts: 625
    Goldeneye1994 wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    007-monaco.jpg


    007-monaco-nttd.jpg

    No Time To Die world premiere in Monaco?

    No.
    The world premiere will be for sure BEFORE the 29th.
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