No Time to Die production thread

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  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited September 2021 Posts: 4,247
    ertert wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Boyle directs his films in the same vein as commercials and music videos. So surely, he would have gone for the Ultra-Stylish approach. Maybe extreme close-ups of Bond's eyes, PPK, Aston Martin and even Bond's haircut.

    All of which sounds extremely cool.

    Yeah. It sure does.
  • edited September 2021 Posts: 2,162
    No Time to Die has been formally classified 12a by the BBFC (no big surprise).

    Slightly spoilerish plot synopsis (one sentence).

    https://www.bbfc.co.uk/release/no-time-to-die-q29sbgvjdglvbjpwwc00otmzmty
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    Mallory wrote: »
    No Time to Die has been formally classified 12a by the BBFC (no big surprise).

    Slightly spoilerish plot synopsis (one sentence).

    https://www.bbfc.co.uk/release/no-time-to-die-q29sbgvjdglvbjpwwc00otmzmty

    A lot of interesting tidbits:
    A small child shows fear as she is held hostage and used as a bargaining tool by a villainous character.
    A racist remark is made to a black character who meets it with a very firm and forceful challenge.

    This one is interesting:
    People who have been exposed to a weaponised biochemical substance choke and collapse, and their flesh becomes disfigured and bloody.

    Also — appears
    we'll get a F*** in the film.
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    BMB007 wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    No Time to Die has been formally classified 12a by the BBFC (no big surprise).

    Slightly spoilerish plot synopsis (one sentence).

    https://www.bbfc.co.uk/release/no-time-to-die-q29sbgvjdglvbjpwwc00otmzmty

    A lot of interesting tidbits:
    A small child shows fear as she is held hostage and used as a bargaining tool by a villainous character.
    A racist remark is made to a black character who meets it with a very firm and forceful challenge.

    This one is interesting:
    People who have been exposed to a weaponised biochemical substance choke and collapse, and their flesh becomes disfigured and bloody.

    Also — appears
    we'll get a F*** in the film.

    Well that's very interesting.
    I think this explains Safin's scars and somewhat of the role the child will play in the finale. I wonder what Safin wants with her of if he's just taunting Bond.
  • AgentM72 wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    I know Boyle’s departure caused the delay to 2020 that ultimately ended up being the cause of the further pandemic delays… but man… I’m so glad Boyle left the project. Just imagine Craig’s tenure ending with a weird standalone Boyle’s Bond instead of this epic conclusion that wraps up everything we witnessed over the last 15 years.

    Very glad we're getting this version, as well.

    But I do hope -- after NTTD is released -- that someone, maybe MI6-HQ or another fan site that's in the know, writes a detailed piece on what Boyle's B25 was supposed to be.

    It seemed clear from some of the Tweets and posts etc. at the time that there are site admins and members of the fan community who had more specific knowledge of what that film was going to deliver. I'd love, love, love to know.
    I recall reading that in Boyle’s version the Russians were the bad guys, and Bond would have been in captivity for much of the movie. The production designer (who stayed on for NTTD) also said they were building a 350 foot rocket and a Russian gulag set as well. So maybe it would have been some sort of update to the Moonraker novel.
  • phantomvicesphantomvices Mother Base
    Posts: 469
    ertert wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    No Time to Die has been formally classified 12a by the BBFC (no big surprise).

    Slightly spoilerish plot synopsis (one sentence).

    https://www.bbfc.co.uk/release/no-time-to-die-q29sbgvjdglvbjpwwc00otmzmty

    A lot of interesting tidbits:
    A small child shows fear as she is held hostage and used as a bargaining tool by a villainous character.
    A racist remark is made to a black character who meets it with a very firm and forceful challenge.

    This one is interesting:
    People who have been exposed to a weaponised biochemical substance choke and collapse, and their flesh becomes disfigured and bloody.

    Also — appears
    we'll get a F*** in the film.

    Well that's very interesting.
    I think this explains Safin's scars and somewhat of the role the child will play in the finale. I wonder what Safin wants with her of if he's just taunting Bond.

    The part about the weapon intrigues me the most.
    The melting flesh reminds me of the main bioweapon of MI2, yet the genetic targeting reminds me of MGS.

    But more importantly, is this why Safin has facial scarring? Perhaps using a strain to enhance his own lifespan while having another to target his enemies?
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    Let's pretend maybe for a minute Safin hasn't been
    prolonging his life.
    What if his scarring came from some sort of human experiment on him? Remember how they keep saying Safin is a "product of an innocence lost from a very young age."? That's what I keep thinking about at least.
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Let's pretend maybe for a minute Safin hasn't been
    prolonging his life.
    What if his scarring came from some sort of human experiment on him? Remember how they keep saying Safin is a "product of an innocence lost from a very young age."? That's what I keep thinking about at least.

    What if —
    He was experimented on as a child by Blofeld/Spectre? Don't know if timeline would line up.
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Let's pretend maybe for a minute Safin hasn't been
    prolonging his life.
    What if his scarring came from some sort of human experiment on him? Remember how they keep saying Safin is a "product of an innocence lost from a very young age."? That's what I keep thinking about at least.

    Herr Doktor Mortner will be proud of his creation.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    Music to my ears…

    “Fukunaga, who lists Martin Campbell’s Casino Royale and Peter R. Hunt’s On Her Majesty’s Secret Service as his two Bond favorites…”

    Indeed, a symphony

  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
    Posts: 95
    matt_u wrote: »
    I know Boyle’s departure caused the delay to 2020 that ultimately ended up being the cause of the further pandemic delays… but man… I’m so glad Boyle left the project. Just imagine Craig’s tenure ending with a weird standalone Boyle’s Bond instead of this epic conclusion that wraps up everything we witnessed over the last 15 years.

    I agree. Honestly I love Boyle's movies and his style and I still want him to do a Bond movie in the future (I really hope he will direct Bond 26 or 27), but I feel like Fukunaga was the best choice to wrap up Craig's tenure.
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    Looks like some interviews/videos are being recorded.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,368
    Is this the covid version of the usual hotel suite interviews? In the ballroom? Very Bond! :D
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    Boyle’s version being more “tongue-in-cheek and whimsical” seems strange given the supposed plot was Bond spending most of the movie in jail. It does make me think the rumored idea of killing off Bond would indeed have been the producers then instead of Boyle, which concerns me. In any case, tonally, NTTD looks far more appropriate for Daniel Craig. SP even went too light at times for his Bond IMO.
  • leas_moleleas_mole love is the promise of suffering
    Posts: 574
    Contraband was asking where the source of the Craig and Léa video was from (Léa wrapped the latest David Cronenberg film a few weeks ago and has kept her hair short)

    It was from IG story from Etienne Sekola - who seems to be Léa's hairstylist for the NTTD promo tour

    https://www.instagram.com/etiennesekola/

    Also this looks interesting and I hope we can see the cast answer questions from the Japanese fans on this YouTube link:-

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    Has a Bond junket ever had the actor paired together with the female lead before? Seems like first time...feels significant about how they want press to treat the film & the role & the relationship
  • It feels like this is almost as much Madeleine’s film as it is Bond’s.
  • edited September 2021 Posts: 3,164
    After rewatching SP for the first time since 2016...just realised how ballsy as hell it is how much they're doubling down on this stuff. As if they've really realised how they didn't meet the potential the last film could have had, instead of attempting a redo or distancing themselves, they accepted it as "what's happened has happened" and took those elements and try and really turn all these around here
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited September 2021 Posts: 10,591
    antovolk wrote: »
    After rewatching SP for the first time since 2016...just realised how ballsy as hell it is how much they're doubling down on this stuff. As if they've really realised how they didn't meet the potential the last film could have had, instead of attempting a redo or distancing themselves, they accepted it as "what's happened has happened" and took those elements and try and really turn all these around here
    That's honestly what I love about what they're doing with NTTD. After a few years I never expected them to not only feature Madeleine and Blofeld but let alone expand on their characters and feature (at least the latter) heavily in the film. SP didn't meet its potential but I've always seen promise in both Seydoux and Waltz in their respective roles. It's going to be very cool watching the Craig films in retrospect, especially viewing how the last leg of the story progresses with five years in between films.
  • Which I commend them for, it would have been easy to abandon that storyline, especially since they’d really set themselves up to even kill Madeleine off in OHMSS fashion. I think the fact that Bond and Madeleine’s relationship was so thinly drawn in Spectre actually turned out to be a bit of an opportunity for Cary and the writers to have a bit of a blank slate and make her character and her past far more engaging. What I find REALLY impressive
    is the guts they’ve shown to build this film around that relationship breakdown, and seemingly the introduction of a daughter really forces them to re-establish the relationship and get it to a place where it feels earned emotionally where Bond, Madeleine, and Mathilde become a mirror image of Mr. White, her mother, and herself. They took a really underdeveloped subplot and turned it into a potentially epic multi-generational love/sins of the father type tale.
  • edited September 2021 Posts: 3,164
    I mean, longest PTS in history is that way for a reason lol.
    Even Cary has talked about it in one of the many magazine features - the film is about generations and legacy and wrestling with that - Bond comes to face that both literally as a father (seemingly - and so does Madeleine vis a vis her father and connection to Safin), and professionally (his replacement as 007!) And to a degree the seeming Blofeld/Safin conflict as well, dismantling what's left of Spectre the organisation and whatever the latter is setting up.
  • edited September 2021 Posts: 561
    antovolk wrote: »
    After rewatching SP for the first time since 2016...just realised how ballsy as hell it is how much they're doubling down on this stuff. As if they've really realised how they didn't meet the potential the last film could have had, instead of attempting a redo or distancing themselves, they accepted it as "what's happened has happened" and took those elements and try and really turn all these around here

    It's so impressive in an era of reboots, soft abandonments, and kowtowing to the worst people online — EON decided to expand on what works and refuse to listen to haters.

    I think back to how the TROS press tour was full of potshots and insults at TLJ, reflecting how the former film retcons the latter. A quick look at review scores and BO trends show who had the last laugh...

    Meanwhile — despite having all opportunity to do the same for the divisive Spectre — EON didn't do it. And as a huge fan of Spectre, I love it!
    Which I commend them for, it would have been easy to abandon that storyline, especially since they’d really set themselves up to even kill Madeleine off in OHMSS fashion. I think the fact that Bond and Madeleine’s relationship was so thinly drawn in Spectre actually turned out to be a bit of an opportunity for Cary and the writers to have a bit of a blank slate and make her character and her past far more engaging. What I find REALLY impressive
    is the guts they’ve shown to build this film around that relationship breakdown, and seemingly the introduction of a daughter really forces them to re-establish the relationship and get it to a place where it feels earned emotionally where Bond, Madeleine, and Mathilde become a mirror image of Mr. White, her mother, and herself. They took a really underdeveloped subplot and turned it into a potentially epic multi-generational love/sins of the father type tale.

    When I saw Seydoux was cast in B25, I was worried it'd be just to kill her in the beginning and set up some revenge story. But when that first trailer came out and I saw just how much the dramatic journey of the film would be based around her — I was stunned.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    SF = Mother
    SP = Fathers
    NTTD = Descendants

    On a side note, how cool is that Blofeld calls Swann “Daughter of SPECTRE” during the PTS?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,368
    BMB007 wrote: »
    Meanwhile — despite having all opportunity to do the same for the divisive Spectre — EON didn't do it. And as a huge fan of Spectre, I love it!

    Although I guess you could say that Spectre did sort of do that to Quantum of Solace, the previous poorly-received film in the series :)
    'Quantum you say? Nah don't worry about them, we've got Spectre now!' :D
  • QsCatQsCat London
    Posts: 253
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    If they outright kill him, i.e like Hugh Jackman in Logan, I think it will take me out of the film and ruin it. Leaving it open ended on a cliff hanger will also tick me off. Bond is not a drama series, not a soap opera. Yes I know the series has become more dramatic lately and that has its ups and downs but Bond does not have to be over complicated.

    Now saying that whilst Fukunaga has directed the film, we are probably in for more of a thriller but by leaving the film on a sad and sombre note, you don't have people leaving the theatre's screaming WOOHOO. You need to give them an ending that gets them leaving excited, having enjoyed what they just saw. You need the film to end with either a bombastic finale with the Bond theme blaring or a good easter egg to a previous film/scene etc to go out in true 007 style.

    Let's be honest we all want to leave that little dark theatre cheering, knowing BOND IS BACK!.

    Precisely. I'm much rather leave the theatre knowing BOND IS BACK rather than BOND IS OVER.

    Someone gets it!!

    I would like Bond to die at the end of this. This would be truly heroic and it would be the ultimate example of putting his job first. He knows the risk of the job, he knows he faces death. He ought to willingly sacrifice himself if necessary; particularly if the threat is as immense as the trailer suggests. Bond throwing himself into his certain death would suit Craig's Bond perfectly and would be tragic yet appropriate.
    So many men and women out there in the real world put their lives on the line for their country, and pay the price. Why the hell shouldn't Bond?
    The audience will surely know it doesn't mean the end of the franchise .. they know there'll be a new actor next time. It has happened often enough.
    I will be disappointed if Bond survives the end of the film. I want to see a bold end to his tenure which perfectly captures his Bond, rather than something we have seen before.
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    mtm wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    Meanwhile — despite having all opportunity to do the same for the divisive Spectre — EON didn't do it. And as a huge fan of Spectre, I love it!

    Although I guess you could say that Spectre did sort of do that to Quantum of Solace, the previous poorly-received film in the series :)
    'Quantum you say? Nah don't worry about them, we've got Spectre now!' :D

    Quantum does get a name check but more to the point it would have been a bit daft to continue using the compromise name once they had the rights to use SPECTRE again.

    On the other hand they could have made it explicit that Quantum was responsible for the extortion part of the organisation.
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    matt_u wrote: »
    SF = Mother
    SP = Fathers
    NTTD = Descendants

    On a side note, how cool is that Blofeld calls Swann “Daughter of SPECTRE” during the PTS?

    No fooling when I saw that phrase was used, I had to get out of my cubicle because I started laughing so hard.
  • edited September 2021 Posts: 1,970
    matt_u wrote: »
    I know Boyle’s departure caused the delay to 2020 that ultimately ended up being the cause of the further pandemic delays… but man… I’m so glad Boyle left the project. Just imagine Craig’s tenure ending with a weird standalone Boyle’s Bond instead of this epic conclusion that wraps up everything we witnessed over the last 15 years.

    I still would love to see the Boyle script
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