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I agree, they're better off letting the foster-brother storyline slip away.
No, he is 100% not getting credited. It's not without reason his name wasn't mentioned in the press release announcing the start of production.
CF should be able to give Waltz the motivation to make ESB much more menacing, I'm calling as @peter and I said sometime back a SOTL style Starling/Graham Lector one on one.
An ideal opportunity for Craig and Waltz to shine, hopefully that electric chemistry some of us expected when Waltz was announced will be present this time round.
I’d love that in theory, but how would you successfully retcon that?
What do you guys mean with "Spectre 2"? Mendes is not back.
There are different people working on this film. Brand new, in every department. The fact that some actors are coming back doesn't mean anything. As far as we know Madeleine could die in the PTS and Blofeld could have just a brief scene in jail. If it's not the case there are completely new talents - even a semi-genius female screenwriter! - working on this film that will treat those characters differently or perhaps they'll be able to add more depth to them. I just don't understand all this concern regarding the specter of SP2.
BTW... I'm super glad Waltz is back. Actually, feels like an obvious choice.
Right. But at the end of the day that was Blofeld's motivation for singling out Bond. Maybe they'll indirectly place a reference by saying that they've known one another for 'years'. That works for everyone.
I just feel concerned because I don’t want the story (which is still largely a mystery beyond the given hook) to be a direct continuation of SP or a retread. Not saying it’s going to happen, just a small worry. Never been done before to have the main villain and main Bond girl of the previous film both return.
True, it's the first time. But since Madeleine and Blofeld are back something will be tied to previous SP events. That's for sure.
But it is also the first time since Dr. No that every major department - director, director of photography, production designer, editor, composer, costume designer, maybe even actual screenwriters if P&W will get just a story credit - is run by totally new people to the franchise. So I'm confident they won't just make SP2.
Wouldn't be surprised if they used a variant of what Dr. Evil tells Austin Powers either:
- How ironic. You finally caught me, yet now you need me more then ever.
>:P
I am actually quite happy with this. I never liked the "foster brother" angle, otherwise I was very happy that Blofeld was returning and while Waltz's performance lacked something I thought he had a creepiness that fitted the character very well.
@Shardlake -- having re-watched BEASTS OF NO NATION last night-- a mesmerizing, almost hallucinogenic nightmare-- there were several things that are apparent in CF's works to date:
He has a strong, uncompromising vision. He's unrelenting. And, as I said earlier today, if he brings half of that, B25 will be one helluva twisted ride.
There's something else: the element of horror. Not slasher Friday the 13th type horror; but more dread and tension and genuine fear. If he can bring this to a Waltz cameo... Blofeld's been locked up now for five years... how twisted has his mind become?... We played with this idea before, and I hope it's something along this path.
CF could potentially deliver a far different Blofeld than the one we saw asking Bond to shoot him...
Could be exciting...
I wonder if a source of friction between Bond, M, and Nomi will be MI6's use of Blofeld as a source of information? I know yourself and @Shardlake mentioned this, @peter - a Hannibal Lector type scenario. But what if Bond really doesn't approve of this situation? Equally, he has been gone five years and we don't yet know his emotional state during their inevitable confrontation....
It will be interesting to see how Ealtz' Blofeld has changed in the five years, too.
The WGA, @echo can be very messy situation. The producers submit to the WGA-- and to all writers who were employed on the production-- a notice of where they think the credits should go (with a copy of the final shooting script as evidence and reasoning behind the decisions).
If one, or more of the writers have an issue with this, they take it to arbitration.
Arbitration is when the WGA will go over ALL drafts written by ALL the writers and decide whether the credits were rewarded justly. If not, they will correct any wrongs based on a whole bunch of rules written in something called the Screen Credits Manual (think of it as the motion picture industry's Bible)...
So it's really producers call on who gets credit; writers have the right to go to arbitration. If there's a case to be made, the WGA takes over and will base final credits according to the SCM....
Does that help?
P
yes @CraigMooreOHMSS -- very interested to see where both Bond and Blofeld are at five years later. And how this impacts their meeting.
Could Blofeld be pulling strings on the outside, from the inside?
Was their chatter on this site about a prison being looked at with a possible jail break scene? Or was I hallucinating again, lol?
I remember someone saying their office building had been scouted for a possible prison scene
Well it was pretty obvious - just look at Waltz' upcoming schedule - it's remarkably empty.
This man is, even in Waltz's weak portrayal, a megalomaniac...; how does prison suit one like him? I would gather, not well.
And in the hands of CF, who has not been afraid to show deeply depraved people in his body of work, this can be a seriously frightening situation Bond will have to confront (and makes Spectre worth watching again, lol)
This is probably a good reason why they don't want to give out a title.
Prison does have this uncanny ability to make bad people going in become even worse before coming out.
One can only imagine what Blofeld's been up to...
Or maybe there's still time for that.