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Plus we do know she supposedly appears later in the film, interrogating Blofeld...
And about the title, I think serious consideration can now be given to THE PROPERTY OF A LADY...
Little fact. I only once watched vertigo -
I taped it off the tele about 30 years ago. My tape ran out just as they approach Mount Rushmore. To this day I’ve never seen the last 10 minutes!
Mount Rushmore? U are mixing up Vertigo with North by North West. Both superb films though. Vertigo is in my top 3 ever, sitting with 2001 and Chinatown.
It reeks of the silly science of DAD no matter how much some try to convince me this is a very feasible thing.
I suggested it as a possibility, and it could be smartly done and not cheesy like DAD, but I have to say, it's not what I would do if I was writing a Craig Bond.
Cloning is a real thing. Things are cloned. It is science. And a reality.
DNA replacement therapy as seen in DAD, is a thing of fiction, and therefore silly science.
I'm not hoping for cloning within the story. But I wont be appalled or angry if it is.
So long as it's handled well within the story. I don't think the writing team or CJF will make it sci-fi or cheesy if it is incorporated into the storyline.
I think a lot of people heard the plot would involve “genetic engineering” and immediately jumped to “cloning”.
In fact, genetic engineering has very little to actually do with cloning. I found these articles on the Guardian which suggest the USA is putting a lot of attention on genetic engineering for the use of agriculture. However, the UN and other bodies are growing concerned that these are actually covert attempts to build bio-weapons for the military.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/04/us-plan-to-genetically-alter-crops-via-insects-feared-to-be-biological-war-plan
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/dec/04/us-military-agency-invests-100m-in-genetic-extinction-technologies
Is it possible that this isn't bond's wedding but someone else's?
I'm sure you're right @DarthDimi all these theories and speculative ideas either being close to the mark...or a long way off.
I put away my crystal ball long ago.
So in 1967 how many spacecraft could snatch other spacecraft from orbit,
In 1979 how many immense space stations, with artificial gravity, were there?
The science in Bond films has frequently been one step ahead.
It's the english translation of the italian title of the film but I think also other countries had this title variation.
For dozens of pages now, speculation about cloning, of all things, has been going on uninterrupted. And with noting hinting at it whatsoever. So yeah, this is either spot-on or one of the craziest cases of social media speculation ever. ;-)
The entertainment value of this thread cannot be overstated. It reminds me of the old Batman television series with Batman and Robin deducing Catwoman's plans on the basis of some cryptic bits.
Genetic engineering => cloning =>Malek is Blofeld and the Bond girl is a clone.
Let me try one of these.
Multiple Aston Martins => transformers => Oh my god, Ana is some Chinese experiment involving people who can turn into cars.
Great. Let's talk about that for the next 50 pages, shall we?
If anyone at EON is reading these threads, and right now I hope no-one is, they must be thinking, "if these are the Bond fans of today, why do we even bother making more films?" ;-)
With respect, genetic engineering is a reality, as is cloning - a human being has not yet been cloned (as far as we know), but animals and plants etc. have been cloned.
Human beings transforming into cars is not a scientific reality.
I personally don't think Eon will push a Craig film into full-on cloning, but from what we know, genetic science is core to the plot, so it's fair to speculate on what that might be and why we have a young girl cast to (so it seems) resemble Swann.
Always Kill Yesterday's (Female) Genomes?
Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil?
Well aren’t you a sweetheart.
Sweetie, go back though the history of the franchise, technology that is one step ahead is present in almost every film.
Going to space isn't outlandish either, yet that wasn't received very well.
One step ahead of what? Those things still haven't been done (53 and 40 years later) and likely won't any time soon.
Very true...
I'm well aware of how far our academic and experimental knowledge of genetics has come. I'm sure that in the hands of a capable writer, it could work for a Bond film. Yet, something still feels a little off.
That, however, is not what I was talking about in my previous post. Rather, the fact that they haven't thrown us even half a bone about the plot yet and we are still able to fill page after page with extremely detailed speculation traveling in the weirdest of places, is what baffles me. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, merely that I'm sure we'll return to these discussions at some point and laugh at a lot of these wannabe plot ideas. ;)
The two additional elements that prompted the clone theory were the casting of the young actress who looks like Lea and the fact that she’s wearing contemporary clothing during the frozen lake sequence which was initially thought to be a flashback.
My guess is that this girl has nothing to do about cloning or Madeleine at all. I'm more likely to believe she's in some way connected to the kidnapped scientist. What better way to make a scientist agree to assist in developing a dangerous technology than holding his daughter hostage, for example.