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  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Univex wrote: »
    Or...
    Bond gets Swann pregnant but doesn't know it. She knows it when she's on the balcony in Matera and burns a paper wishing for something in that regard. After the chase, he puts her on a train and leaves. Years and years later, Bond is in Jamaica, blah blah blah, and his daughter, blah blah blah, ... Uff, I hope not. That'd be the worse scenario since brothergate.


    Nah, scratch that.

    Not a spoiler lol.

    Yeah I would not be surprised if Felix comes to Bond. Saying he needs help.

    Why would Bond help him? We found Swann and you have a 5 year old daughter?

    Remember the movie comes out in 2020. ‘SP’ came out in 2015.

    5 years go by so yes he could have a little 5 year old. Worst Bond plot ever especially if he’s banging other Bond girls in this.



  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    @CASINOROYALE @Univex
    I don't think she was pregnant, and I don't think it's her and Bond's child, but I could get behind your idea Casino, and then she could be burning a photo of her family that she could've owned or even found when they investigated Mr. White's secret room. It would be a little weird to add a sibiling when we only saw pictures of Madeleine on White's wall, but maybe you could say he doesn't have pictures of her because her death was too painful? Just spitballing here. Probably doesn't matter.
  • edited September 2019 Posts: 6,710
    Univex wrote: »
    Or...
    Bond gets Swann pregnant but doesn't know it. She knows it when she's on the balcony in Matera and burns a paper wishing for something in that regard. After the chase, he puts her on a train and leaves. Years and years later, Bond is in Jamaica, blah blah blah, and his daughter, blah blah blah, ... Uff, I hope not. That'd be the worse scenario since brothergate.


    Nah, scratch that.

    Not a spoiler lol.

    Yeah I would not be surprised if Felix comes to Bond. Saying he needs help.

    Why would Bond help him? We found Swann and you have a 5 year old daughter?

    Remember the movie comes out in 2020. ‘SP’ came out in 2015.

    5 years go by so yes he could have a little 5 year old. Worst Bond plot ever especially if he’s banging other Bond girls in this.

    Then we'd have:

    - A woman taking the 007 mantle at Mi6

    - Daddy Bond

    - A castle assault with an hypercar

    - And worse that all of the above: a buttoned collar shirt with a tie!!!!

    AHHHHH, we're doomed.

    Of course I'm kidding, I trust this creative team to do better. Well, except for the shirt and tie :(

    ;)
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @CASINOROYALE @Univex
    I don't think she was pregnant, and I don't think it's her and Bond's child, but I could get behind your idea Casino, and then she could be burning a photo of her family that she could've owned or even found when they investigated Mr. White's secret room. It would be a little weird to add a sibiling when we only saw pictures of Madeleine on White's wall, but maybe you could say he doesn't have pictures of her because her death was too painful? Just spitballing here. Probably doesn't matter.

    She's just burning a piece of paper as part of a tradition we saw many people do in Matera. What's in the paper? Dunno. But it's probably something one writes.
  • mtm wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    Rami's making the US media rounds next week and it would make a ton of sense to bring a trailer with him on Tuesday or Wednesday.



    EDIT: Oh, thanks @Red_Snow -- Phoebe too! Yeah definitely a trailer somewhere within those 24 hours, one would think.

    That is a bit of a US chat show thing, isn't it: to have a trailer for the latest movie? Does seem to add up.

    Yes...now whether it premieres there (vs. online) is a whole other question...
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,252
    Univex wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Or...
    Bond gets Swann pregnant but doesn't know it. She knows it when she's on the balcony in Matera and burns a paper wishing for something in that regard. After the chase, he puts her on a train and leaves. Years and years later, Bond is in Jamaica, blah blah blah, and his daughter, blah blah blah, ... Uff, I hope not. That'd be the worse scenario since brothergate.


    Nah, scratch that.

    Not a spoiler lol.

    Yeah I would not be surprised if Felix comes to Bond. Saying he needs help.

    Why would Bond help him? We found Swann and you have a 5 year old daughter?

    Remember the movie comes out in 2020. ‘SP’ came out in 2015.

    5 years go by so yes he could have a little 5 year old. Worst Bond plot ever especially if he’s banging other Bond girls in this.

    Then we'd have:

    - A woman taking the 007 mantle at Mi6

    - Daddy Bond

    - A castle assault with an hypercar

    - And worse that all of the above: a buttoned collar shirt with a tie!!!!

    AHHHHH, we're doomed.

    Of course I'm kidding, I trust this creative team to do better. Well, except for the shirt and tie :(

    ;)

    You forgot clones!
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,592
    Malek revealing the trailer via Colbert on the 2nd seems like a very good bet.
  • edited September 2019 Posts: 4,412
    mtm wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    Rami's making the US media rounds next week and it would make a ton of sense to bring a trailer with him on Tuesday or Wednesday.



    EDIT: Oh, thanks @Red_Snow -- Phoebe too! Yeah definitely a trailer somewhere within those 24 hours, one would think.


    That is a bit of a US chat show thing, isn't it: to have a trailer for the latest movie? Does seem to add up.

    Malek is doing the talk-show rounds as Mr Robot's final series debuts on 6 October. I'm sure they'll ask him about NTTD but he isn't going on TV to hype a trailer.

  • Posts: 6,710
    talos7 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Or...
    Bond gets Swann pregnant but doesn't know it. She knows it when she's on the balcony in Matera and burns a paper wishing for something in that regard. After the chase, he puts her on a train and leaves. Years and years later, Bond is in Jamaica, blah blah blah, and his daughter, blah blah blah, ... Uff, I hope not. That'd be the worse scenario since brothergate.


    Nah, scratch that.

    Not a spoiler lol.

    Yeah I would not be surprised if Felix comes to Bond. Saying he needs help.

    Why would Bond help him? We found Swann and you have a 5 year old daughter?

    Remember the movie comes out in 2020. ‘SP’ came out in 2015.

    5 years go by so yes he could have a little 5 year old. Worst Bond plot ever especially if he’s banging other Bond girls in this.

    Then we'd have:

    - A woman taking the 007 mantle at Mi6

    - Daddy Bond

    - A castle assault with an hypercar

    - And worse that all of the above: a buttoned collar shirt with a tie!!!!

    AHHHHH, we're doomed.

    Of course I'm kidding, I trust this creative team to do better. Well, except for the shirt and tie :(

    ;)

    You forgot clones!

    Damn, yeah, clones! And Brofeld back as well. DAD sounds good on paper right now.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,602
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    Rami's making the US media rounds next week and it would make a ton of sense to bring a trailer with him on Tuesday or Wednesday.



    EDIT: Oh, thanks @Red_Snow -- Phoebe too! Yeah definitely a trailer somewhere within those 24 hours, one would think.

    That is a bit of a US chat show thing, isn't it: to have a trailer for the latest movie? Does seem to add up.

    Yes...now whether it premieres there (vs. online) is a whole other question...

    Does that happen?
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 581
    What if....

    The young blonde in Norway isn’t Lea/Swann but her sister?

    Can you imagine if her younger sister was murdered. Her father couldn’t let it go, joined Spectre in hopes of bringing her back.

    Cloning. I know people make fun of me for suggesting cloning but it’s been mentioned by the tabloids.

    We know Rami’s character is not a terrorist so he doesn’t have a nuke.

    There is some sort of physiological aspect to this film. It’s definitely a thriller. Mind control/cloning would be up Cary’s alley.

    We had mind control in OHMSS and we had cloning in DAF.

    I think this film will be a bit on the “out there” side. There will definitely be something that’s not possible in real life.

    I’m not really seeing much evidence of the villain threat here.

    Only thing we know is that a scientist was kidnapped and there’s a young blonde involved who may or may not be a Young Swann.

    Also at some point in the film whether it’s the beginning or towards the end Bond and Swann are attacked.

    Does anyone have any actual theories on what this scientific genetic plot is? What’s the threat?

    They keep mentioning genetics and DNA so if it’s not cloning what could it possibly be? Super soldiers?


    Also!! The actress who plays Dr Vogel has accepted my friend request on Facebook. When we get a teaser or closer to November/December I will definitely ask her for an interview.

    Let us know if you get the chance to speak with her. James Bond Radio interviewed her a couple years ago about Spectre so it seems like she is open to talking with fans.
  • edited September 2019 Posts: 6,710
    https://www.metro.news/sixty-seconds-with-jeffrey-wright/1730929/

    Jeffrey Wright filmed in Jamaica AND London.

    "I’ve filmed in Jamaica and a bit in London and I’ve got to say, I was having a ball."
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Alright quick little rant here...

    I re-watched DN - SP.

    I gotta said DC’s Bond has ZERO DIALOGUE.

    It’s really bothering me. His character mainly utters one to two word replies when Connery, Lazenby and Moore talked in paragraphs.

    Him and Brosnan seem in pain just to get two words out, what gives??

    Also why are Swann and Bond even a thing? Let me break this down.

    CASINO ROYALE

    Vesper and Bond are onscreen for around 70% of the film.

    Train sequence is probably the most Bond’s character has ever interacted with another character in one scene.

    They are constantly together for a majority of the film.

    Bond is a rookie who is new to the game and it’s pretty believable that he would fall in love with Vesper and quit to be with her.

    He gets betrayed and learns his lesson.

    Overall they have enough scenes and dialogue to make it believable that they are truly in love.

    SPECTRE

    Bond has his “interview” with Swann.

    She gets kidnapped they have some quick little one word - two word exchanges and they are off to Africa.

    Again more quick little banter, but not much.

    She goes with him to Blofeld’s base.

    Bond almost dies and she says she loves him?

    They escape and she immediately tells him sorry it’s been real but this is too dangerous for me goodbye.

    She gets kidnapped yet again, Bond saves her and now she’s back with Bond?


    I mean maybe I’m crazy but not only do they have almost no dialogue compared to Vesper and Bond but why would he quit the service for her?

    Yeah they slept together but Bond has slept with/hooked up with a lot of women from CR - SP.


    1) Solange

    2) Vesper

    3) Fields

    4) Random Greek girl

    5) Sex slave

    6) Most likely slept with Estrella.

    7) Messed around with Lucia

    8) Swann (slept with).


    Sorry but this is driving me crazy. There’s just not enough in “SP” for me to believe Swann and Bond are in love and ran away together.



  • Posts: 17,819
    Alright quick little rant here...

    I re-watched DN - SP.

    I gotta said DC’s Bond has ZERO DIALOGUE.

    It’s really bothering me. His character mainly utters one to two word replies when Connery, Lazenby and Moore talked in paragraphs.

    Him and Brosnan seem in pain just to get two words out, what gives??

    Also why are Swann and Bond even a thing? Let me break this down.

    CASINO ROYALE

    Vesper and Bond are onscreen for around 70% of the film.

    Train sequence is probably the most Bond’s character has ever interacted with another character in one scene.

    They are constantly together for a majority of the film.

    Bond is a rookie who is new to the game and it’s pretty believable that he would fall in love with Vesper and quit to be with her.

    He gets betrayed and learns his lesson.

    Overall they have enough scenes and dialogue to make it believable that they are truly in love.

    SPECTRE

    Bond has his “interview” with Swann.

    She gets kidnapped they have some quick little one word - two word exchanges and they are off to Africa.

    Again more quick little banter, but not much.

    She goes with him to Blofeld’s base.

    Bond almost dies and she says she loves him?

    They escape and she immediately tells him sorry it’s been real but this is too dangerous for me goodbye.

    She gets kidnapped yet again, Bond saves her and now she’s back with Bond?


    I mean maybe I’m crazy but not only do they have almost no dialogue compared to Vesper and Bond but why would he quit the service for her?

    Yeah they slept together but Bond has slept with/hooked up with a lot of women from CR - SP.


    1) Solange

    2) Vesper

    3) Fields

    4) Random Greek girl

    5) Sex slave

    6) Most likely slept with Estrella.

    7) Messed around with Lucia

    8) Swann (slept with).


    Sorry but this is driving me crazy. There’s just not enough in “SP” for me to believe Swann and Bond are in love and ran away together.



    You're highlighting perfectly my issues with Bond and Madeleine's "romance" here, which isn't believable at all. You're also bringing up a very interesting point re. dialogue. Some of the best moments throughout the film series have been dialogue driven. We're not getting much of that anymore…
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Alright quick little rant here...

    I re-watched DN - SP.

    I gotta said DC’s Bond has ZERO DIALOGUE.

    It’s really bothering me. His character mainly utters one to two word replies when Connery, Lazenby and Moore talked in paragraphs.

    Him and Brosnan seem in pain just to get two words out, what gives??

    Also why are Swann and Bond even a thing? Let me break this down.

    CASINO ROYALE

    Vesper and Bond are onscreen for around 70% of the film.

    Train sequence is probably the most Bond’s character has ever interacted with another character in one scene.

    They are constantly together for a majority of the film.

    Bond is a rookie who is new to the game and it’s pretty believable that he would fall in love with Vesper and quit to be with her.

    He gets betrayed and learns his lesson.

    Overall they have enough scenes and dialogue to make it believable that they are truly in love.

    SPECTRE

    Bond has his “interview” with Swann.

    She gets kidnapped they have some quick little one word - two word exchanges and they are off to Africa.

    Again more quick little banter, but not much.

    She goes with him to Blofeld’s base.

    Bond almost dies and she says she loves him?

    They escape and she immediately tells him sorry it’s been real but this is too dangerous for me goodbye.

    She gets kidnapped yet again, Bond saves her and now she’s back with Bond?


    I mean maybe I’m crazy but not only do they have almost no dialogue compared to Vesper and Bond but why would he quit the service for her?

    Yeah they slept together but Bond has slept with/hooked up with a lot of women from CR - SP.


    1) Solange

    2) Vesper

    3) Fields

    4) Random Greek girl

    5) Sex slave

    6) Most likely slept with Estrella.

    7) Messed around with Lucia

    8) Swann (slept with).


    Sorry but this is driving me crazy. There’s just not enough in “SP” for me to believe Swann and Bond are in love and ran away together.



    You're highlighting perfectly my issues with Bond and Madeleine's "romance" here, which isn't believable at all. You're also bringing up a very interesting point re. dialogue. Some of the best moments throughout the film series have been dialogue driven. We're not getting much of that anymore…


    He almost feels like Jason Bourne.
    Both are government assassins. Both hardly talk at all.

    Bond is supposed to be lively and super chatty. Even Dalton talked more than Brosnan and Craig.


    It really does look painful for Craig to even talk in a film like he has a hard time speaking. Brosnan had the same issue.
  • Posts: 17,819
    Alright quick little rant here...

    I re-watched DN - SP.

    I gotta said DC’s Bond has ZERO DIALOGUE.

    It’s really bothering me. His character mainly utters one to two word replies when Connery, Lazenby and Moore talked in paragraphs.

    Him and Brosnan seem in pain just to get two words out, what gives??

    Also why are Swann and Bond even a thing? Let me break this down.

    CASINO ROYALE

    Vesper and Bond are onscreen for around 70% of the film.

    Train sequence is probably the most Bond’s character has ever interacted with another character in one scene.

    They are constantly together for a majority of the film.

    Bond is a rookie who is new to the game and it’s pretty believable that he would fall in love with Vesper and quit to be with her.

    He gets betrayed and learns his lesson.

    Overall they have enough scenes and dialogue to make it believable that they are truly in love.

    SPECTRE

    Bond has his “interview” with Swann.

    She gets kidnapped they have some quick little one word - two word exchanges and they are off to Africa.

    Again more quick little banter, but not much.

    She goes with him to Blofeld’s base.

    Bond almost dies and she says she loves him?

    They escape and she immediately tells him sorry it’s been real but this is too dangerous for me goodbye.

    She gets kidnapped yet again, Bond saves her and now she’s back with Bond?


    I mean maybe I’m crazy but not only do they have almost no dialogue compared to Vesper and Bond but why would he quit the service for her?

    Yeah they slept together but Bond has slept with/hooked up with a lot of women from CR - SP.


    1) Solange

    2) Vesper

    3) Fields

    4) Random Greek girl

    5) Sex slave

    6) Most likely slept with Estrella.

    7) Messed around with Lucia

    8) Swann (slept with).


    Sorry but this is driving me crazy. There’s just not enough in “SP” for me to believe Swann and Bond are in love and ran away together.



    You're highlighting perfectly my issues with Bond and Madeleine's "romance" here, which isn't believable at all. You're also bringing up a very interesting point re. dialogue. Some of the best moments throughout the film series have been dialogue driven. We're not getting much of that anymore…


    He almost feels like Jason Bourne.
    Both are government assassins. Both hardly talk at all.

    Bond is supposed to be lively and super chatty. Even Dalton talked more than Brosnan and Craig.


    It really does look painful for Craig to even talk in a film like he has a hard time speaking. Brosnan had the same issue.

    Indeed, he's become more and more like Bourne – in several ways.

    But Bond is supposed to be different in that he is chatty, witty in his remarks and all those things we associate with the character. It's understandable that they've taken a different approach lately, but I would still very much like it if Bond talked more.
  • Posts: 1,680
    The problem is getting the audience to believe in bond and swan right at the start of the film , it can’t happen later. In the short time bond and vesper we’re together they went through quite a bit
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    The problem is getting the audience to believe in bond and swan right at the start of the film , it can’t happen later. In the short time bond and vesper we’re together they went through quite a bit


    Obviously a lot happens “off camera”, stuff that isn’t worth putting in a film so I’m sure she’s not just some random girl. They need to do a better job this time and around making it seem like they are happy and a couple. Swann was too emotionless in SP and she also seemed completely cold.

    It was very weird.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited September 2019 Posts: 5,970
    To be honest I think I already kinda believe it just because I've had time to think about them as a couple and Madeleine just now feels as part of the Craig-era as anyone.

    And while yes that's down to having a lot of time to think about her as a character in the franchise, and not anything Spectre did to be honest...

    ...but my appreciation for what I did like about Swann, and the things I think did work between her and Bond, with the added bonus of naturally accepting her as a character through all the time of I've spent analysing Bond 25 since Spectre's credits rolled, I think when I see No Time to Die, I'll already be comfortable with seeing the two together on screen, unless they really cock it up :D

    But I don't think that's going to happen with the people we've got on board for this film.
  • edited September 2019 Posts: 157
    I think that the romance between Bond and Madeleine isn't believable on purpose. Madeleine isn't in love with Bond, she just said so. She's a double agent working for Spectre. She's not a damsel in distress. Her father or even Bond could think so. But she's something else. She's an acomplished psychologist with a mission like Tatiana Romanova's on From Russia with Love. Spectre is undeceivable. Even if she was a good person, she coud not hide. They had people everywhere. :D
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited September 2019 Posts: 5,970
    @Rossi Even if that was to happen, it definitely wasn't their intention in Spectre, and the kind of retconning I don't think I'm comfortable with to be honest. I personally believe she'll remain on Bond's side, even after separating.
  • Posts: 4,619
    Bond is supposed to be lively and super chatty.
    But Bond is supposed to be different in that he is chatty
    Being chatty is a feminine trait. I can hardy think of a fictional character who is supposed to be more masculine than Bond.
  • Posts: 1,680
    I was always very interested to meet you, I’ve heard so much about you from vesper. I’d still like to know what vesper told white.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    BAZ BAMIGBOYE: Fleabag star Phoebe Waller-Bridge is being wooed to help write a future James Bond film

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7509401/Fleabag-star-Phoebe-Waller-Bridge-wooed-help-write-future-James-Bond-film.html
  • Well, that's all encouraging.

    Especially if it means finally we might take a break from Purvis and Wade.

    So not only is the mood on a high with Bond 25 but also they're thinking ahead.
  • Posts: 12,521
    The savior of Bond? That’s quite high praise! Not surprised they had a lot of script trouble again, but hopefully PWB indeed saved it.
  • edited September 2019 Posts: 2,599
    Alright quick little rant here...

    I re-watched DN - SP.

    I gotta said DC’s Bond has ZERO DIALOGUE.

    It’s really bothering me. His character mainly utters one to two word replies when Connery, Lazenby and Moore talked in paragraphs.

    Him and Brosnan seem in pain just to get two words out, what gives??

    Also why are Swann and Bond even a thing? Let me break this down.

    CASINO ROYALE

    Vesper and Bond are onscreen for around 70% of the film.

    Train sequence is probably the most Bond’s character has ever interacted with another character in one scene.

    They are constantly together for a majority of the film.

    Bond is a rookie who is new to the game and it’s pretty believable that he would fall in love with Vesper and quit to be with her.

    He gets betrayed and learns his lesson.

    Overall they have enough scenes and dialogue to make it believable that they are truly in love.

    SPECTRE

    Bond has his “interview” with Swann.

    She gets kidnapped they have some quick little one word - two word exchanges and they are off to Africa.

    Again more quick little banter, but not much.

    She goes with him to Blofeld’s base.

    Bond almost dies and she says she loves him?

    They escape and she immediately tells him sorry it’s been real but this is too dangerous for me goodbye.

    She gets kidnapped yet again, Bond saves her and now she’s back with Bond?


    I mean maybe I’m crazy but not only do they have almost no dialogue compared to Vesper and Bond but why would he quit the service for her?

    Yeah they slept together but Bond has slept with/hooked up with a lot of women from CR - SP.


    1) Solange

    2) Vesper

    3) Fields

    4) Random Greek girl

    5) Sex slave

    6) Most likely slept with Estrella.

    7) Messed around with Lucia

    8) Swann (slept with).


    Sorry but this is driving me crazy. There’s just not enough in “SP” for me to believe Swann and Bond are in love and ran away together.



    You're highlighting perfectly my issues with Bond and Madeleine's "romance" here, which isn't believable at all. You're also bringing up a very interesting point re. dialogue. Some of the best moments throughout the film series have been dialogue driven. We're not getting much of that anymore…


    He almost feels like Jason Bourne.
    Both are government assassins. Both hardly talk at all.

    Bond is supposed to be lively and super chatty. Even Dalton talked more than Brosnan and Craig.


    It really does look painful for Craig to even talk in a film like he has a hard time speaking. Brosnan had the same issue.

    Yeah, this is the problem with these modern Bond films - hardly any dialogue and almost all just action. Sadly, they just don't make them like they used to. I look forward to a new Bond film but the excitement I used to harbour has diminished greatly over the years. Anyway, this is why, unless there is some solid character movement between these two, a wedding (if this happens) would look ridiculous. These days, the Bond film people's idea of character work is a mere few lines here and there followed by another action scene.
  • Posts: 2,599
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I was always very interested to meet you, I’ve heard so much about you from vesper. I’d still like to know what vesper told white.

    Yeah, me too. This would be considered too much talking for Bond these days.
  • edited September 2019 Posts: 5,767
    Alright quick little rant here...

    ....

    Sorry but this is driving me crazy. There’s just not enough in “SP” for me to believe Swann and Bond are in love and ran away together.


    That's why they are making this film, to portray it all in way that makes sense ;-) . Of course SP won't make more sense after NTTD, but NTTD can make sense on its own.
    Have to agree wholeheartedly on the dialodue point. Especially each time I re-watch Layer Cake, I can't help but think how well Craig can talk, and what a waste it is that he gets to say so little as Bond. Again, NTTD could have him talk more, since it was only the last two films that made Bond's reticence seem tiring. In CR he wasn't that silent, and in QoS it made much sense, but only as a one-off.



    It really does look painful for Craig to even talk in a film like he has a hard time speaking. Brosnan had the same issue.
    Interestingly, both actors talk a lot more in some films outside of Bond.
    I'm not sure I would call Bond a chatty guy, but in the novels he does talk freely, and while I don't insist on taking every detail to the screen, talking Bond has been much more interesting as a character than silent Bond who many times just feels grumpy instead of cool.


    Rossi wrote: »
    I think that the romance between Bond and Madeleine isn't believable on purpose. Madeleine isn't in love with Bond, she just said so. She's a double agent working for Spectre. She's not a damsel in distress. Her father or even Bond could think so. But she's something else. She's an acomplished psychologist with a mission like Tatiana Romanova's on From Russia with Love. Spectre is undeceivable. Even if she was a good person, she coud not hide. They had people everywhere. :D
    Sure, let's hit another nail into the coffin of Bond's integrity. The more sense Madeleine in SP makes, the more it makes ond look like a dumb fool, and MI6 no less, for putting such an emotional idiot into such an important professiinal position.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    Sorry but this is driving me crazy. There’s just not enough in “SP” for me to believe Swann and Bond are in love and ran away together.
    +1000
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,541
    Anyone complaining about Craig's bond not talking enough should watch this again
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