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Most of the audience wants to act like people they saw on tv saying that this and that is what Bond typically does and what makes him so cult. But neither of those people really knows anything about Bond. They reduce a massive opportunity for boundless adventure and entertainment to a stale checklist for invented tropes.
So they don’t deserve to have been entertained because it hasn’t happened in the right way?
Sad.
+1
Ahhh yes. The "his movies made a lot of money, so how dare you say they have flaws or make some constructive criticism" card. So On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Licence to Kill are awful movies because they didn't make as much money as SPECTRE?
Never said that and please don't make up narratives based on people posts without knowing who you are talking to. The two Dalton entries are in my top 10, for the record, so no, your defense strategy doesn't fit with me, and keep in mind we're talking about audiences responses here, not the overall quality, which is far more subjective.
BTW, criticizing Mendes for reprising the most iconic gadget in Bond's history in a film that came out for the 50th anniversary of the saga does it sounds like "constructive criticism" to you? Okay.
And David Dencik confirmed in a recent interview with TV4 he'll be shooting at Pinewood all through October. Craig's injury and the accident at Pinewood (the explosion) was the reason he said, and his schedule was moved.
1. Not at all. I was talking about my personal (dis)taste for the DB5, you only decided to shift the argument to "audiences response" because you needed some basis to your thesis, which is why you came up with the box office argument.
2. Yes. PanchitoPistoles provided a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why it doesn't make sense in the context of the movie. The fact that the movie came out for the 50th anniversary of the saga is completely extrinsic to the movie plot. It's a meta-justification, just like the title "The Force Awakens" makes no sense in the context of the movie and was only chosen as a reference to the fact that Star Wars was coming back.
1. I reported a fact. Crowd pleasing moments in successful blockbuster movies are a fact of life. It's not rocket science.
2. Lol, rewatch TFA. Plus, your points against the DB5 being extrinsic to the movie plot are based on what? Bond needs a different car in order to not being traced and takes the DB5, because it is universally perceived as Bond's personal most iconic vehicle. So what are we even talking about? This is pointless discussion, off-topic, and frankly I don't want to spent any more time on this.
Are we still discussing this more than 24 hours later?
And imho, the "GA" does not hate the DB5, every time I went to see DC's Bonds there were people almost cheering when it showed up on the screen.
Move on now for crissakes.
People don't cheer or react to what's going on on screen where I live, but I remember leaving the theatre after watching SF/SP, and "that car" (the DB5) was a topic on both occasions.
BTW, blatant product placement of 007.com store ;) by may part. Love that key chain.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrelevant_conclusion
2. What I said: The fact that the movie came out for the 50th anniversary of the saga is completely extrinsic
What you understood: the DB5 is extrinsic to the movie
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Of course you don't; the more we discuss it the more wrong you sound. You keep pulling out irrelevant conclusions or even twisting my words because you can't accept that not everyone likes the DB5 in Skyfall. Oh well.
I hope you got a nice sponsor deal, mate. ;)
Nah :(
About the DB5, I'm just glad I'm one of the ones who loves it, because it's been Craig's Pegasus throughout his tenure, and we're getting an iconic chase with it in NTTD. I'm very, very happy.
me too! Love the car so much. Always happy to see it. And yes, when Bond opens the garage in SF, there was applause in every showing I went to.
From what we've seen so far, it look like the DB5's in real trouble, making for an exciting chase this time out.
And from that we know...
Back to NTTD: is it safe to say the rest of the main unit filming will happen exclusively in the UK?
No one said that.
I think so, yes. We probably won't get much more tidbits, pictures, etc... Now is time for the publicity to slowly start. A poster, a teaser, ... Soon, I think. The rest will be behind Pinewood's doors, I reckon.
If I could choose to leave the DB5 in 1965, I would. But we are where we are. I reckon this chase could be a cracker, but my preference going forward would be to really mix it up.
No one has said that.
And about the latter part of your question: I think so.
But I ain't too bloody sure about it. Oi.
I can agree with this. The 2CV was well used in FYEO, or the Alfa Romeo GTV6 in OP.
It would be nice to see Bond in a 'normal' car, besides the product placement of a Ford Mondeo in CR.
However, I find cars nowadays are somewhat boring. Often looking similar to any other brand on the road. Still there has to be opportunity to stick Bond behind the wheel of something other than an Aston Martin.
Look, you aren't even able to understand what you are writing, it seems. Saying that the DB5 was just a mere easter egg and that the 50th was just a meta-justification for such a fan-pleaser choice means exactly that you found the presence of the DB5 unnecessary, extrinsic, in the context of the film. Come on. You said that the DB5 should not be in the movie because is just fan service. Beside the fact that this is just a personal and, personally, bizarre opinion - since we are talking about the most iconic car in the franchise - saying this you were referring to the DB5 as something irrelevant to the plot in a negative way, which means exactly what I was saying. But you know, since you like to sarcastically refer to other's messages as "irrelevant conclusions" I'll tell you another fact of life: the DB5 worked in the context of the film, and given the concept behind the film actually made perfect sense. This is just a general reminder, I honestly don't care if you're feeling the opposite and honestly, if you believe that I can't accept other's opinions it really offends me. I'm not the one referring to other's posts as irrelevant. How old are you? 26? 27?
So yeah, I'm not twisting your words, I just feel embarrassed since looks like you have some problems organizing your thoughts. Again, I don't want to annoy anyone with this ridiculous discussion, if you have any problems you can PM me.
Regarding the irrelevant conclusion, confido che questo assaggio di tipica arroganza toscana sia l'ultimo.
Totally off topic, but every time someone mentions applause and/or cheering during a screening of a film, I'm truly surprised. I've never once, at all, experienced any kind of reactions to a film while it was playing – in any cinema I've been to. Is this a thing everywhere?
Maybe us Belgians are just weird. [-X
Now, if you want some "explanation", it could be said that Bond fell in love with the car he won at the first poker game, and had it customized with a few gadgets that coincidentally match the ones from Goldfinger. There's always been some degree of porosity between the Craig films and the previous ones.