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  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    mtm wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    About the composer, any news regarding Romer? Is he in or out? I remember Elfman admitting his work on Justice League ended up really rushed because he didn't have enough time... and he was hired 5 months before the release date. So IF that rumor is indeed true, it's time to find a replacement. There is always the possibility that they already have one, but didn't announce it yet.

    I think that rumour is looking pretty ropey to be honest.
    matt_u wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    About the composer, any news regarding Romer? Is he in or out? I remember Elfman admitting his work on Justice League ended up really rushed because he didn't have enough time... and he was hired 5 months before the release date. So IF that rumor is indeed true, it's time to find a replacement. There is always the possibility that they already have one, but didn't announce it yet.

    OR that Romer didn't leave at all, and that the rumour is untrue. Anyway, I don't think EON will make an announcement à la "We have got a new composer!".
    If they indeed got someone else, the earliest we might notice is when they put out a new poster with a text block underneath, and someone else's name is next to 'Music by'.

    Well of course. IF the rumor is true. Anyway, if an important member of the crew has been replaced by another one, the news is usually quickly reported by the media. Never heard about blockbusters of this size where people find out a big crew member change from the theatrical posters... but this production is so secretive that every option seems possible.


    I don't think it's been overly secretive at all to be honest. They've done plenty of little bits to keep the fans happy, from the nice official key image of Bond in front of the V8, the making of snippet, behind the scenes visits, the Goldeneye launch, title reveal... they're busy trying to make a film but I think they've done just the right amount of interaction. And that's not including all of the paparazzi photos which I'm not convinced aren't sometimes a little stage-managed..

    At this stage into production NTTD is by far the most secretive recent Bond. Not a problem if you ask me but man, but this is basically a fact. Just think about the title alone. In the last two we knew far more stuff regarding the film*, at this stage, almost five months before the premiere.

    *without taking the leak into account.

    Can you disregard the leak? It revealed the entire film.

    We are talking the official marketing campaign here. Not fraudulent leaks. Do you know why people inhere are so frustrated to get some official info/material for NTTD? Because back in 2015 we had far more. With NTTD we are almost 5 months away from the premiere and we genuinely know nothing (which is exciting, if you ask me). Basically, we don't even know where the PTS will 100% take place. We are not even sure if Romer is still the composer. We have no idea how the film will look nor how half of the cast will look. Zero stills, except one where Bond doesn't even look quite... Bondian (yet is cool). And all this, taking into account that the first footage will be available in a month. And that's the encouraging forecast. Basically the marketing campaign will kick 4 months before release, which is unusual for a blockbuster of this scale. So yes, this production has been quite secretive.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,205
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    And the obvious answer is 'why'? It makes no difference. You didn't notice it in QoS so why would you notice it elsewhere? I like it sometimes, sometimes I'm not bothered. It doesn't make a great score on its own either way.
    Just because it doesn't make a difference to you doesn't mean it doesn't to everybody else. Jesus, that's not hard to grasp.

    But you're unable to articulate why? Perhaps it doesn't matter as much as you think it does.

    You're right. The title song being interwoven throughout the score makes absolutely no difference. Our mistake.
    RC7 wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    About the composer, any news regarding Romer? Is he in or out? I remember Elfman admitting his work on Justice League ended up really rushed because he didn't have enough time... and he was hired 5 months before the release date. So IF that rumor is indeed true, it's time to find a replacement. There is always the possibility that they already have one, but didn't announce it yet.

    I think that rumour is looking pretty ropey to be honest.
    matt_u wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    About the composer, any news regarding Romer? Is he in or out? I remember Elfman admitting his work on Justice League ended up really rushed because he didn't have enough time... and he was hired 5 months before the release date. So IF that rumor is indeed true, it's time to find a replacement. There is always the possibility that they already have one, but didn't announce it yet.

    OR that Romer didn't leave at all, and that the rumour is untrue. Anyway, I don't think EON will make an announcement à la "We have got a new composer!".
    If they indeed got someone else, the earliest we might notice is when they put out a new poster with a text block underneath, and someone else's name is next to 'Music by'.

    Well of course. IF the rumor is true. Anyway, if an important member of the crew has been replaced by another one, the news is usually quickly reported by the media. Never heard about blockbusters of this size where people find out a big crew member change from the theatrical posters... but this production is so secretive that every option seems possible.


    I don't think it's been overly secretive at all to be honest. They've done plenty of little bits to keep the fans happy, from the nice official key image of Bond in front of the V8, the making of snippet, behind the scenes visits, the Goldeneye launch, title reveal... they're busy trying to make a film but I think they've done just the right amount of interaction. And that's not including all of the paparazzi photos which I'm not convinced aren't sometimes a little stage-managed..

    At this stage into production NTTD is by far the most secretive recent Bond. Not a problem if you ask me but man, but this is basically a fact. Just think about the title alone. In the last two we knew far more stuff regarding the film*, at this stage, almost five months before the premiere.

    *without taking the leak into account.

    EON have done a bang up job in keep information sparse. It’s impressive and most welcome.

    And it’s got us fans hungry for something. I don’t even care for a teaser at this point, I just wanna get a glimpse of the cinematography.

    Sandgren's visuals are one of the things I'm most excited about, for sure. It's going to be a beautiful film and the vibrant colours of Jamaica are likely going to be a standout.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Sandgren's visuals are one of the things I'm most excited about, for sure. It's going to be a beautiful film and the vibrant colours of Jamaica are likely going to be a standout.

    Indeed. Though I've enjoyed the photography of Craig's run so far, we haven't really had a vibrantly colorful Bond film like we traditionally used to get since arguably CASINO ROYALE. l love the photography of SKYFALL, but that was unique and more appropriate to that film than it would have been for others.

    With the return to Jamaica, certainly I hope we get back to the classic color pallete of Ted Moore's photography from the 60s.
  • edited November 2019 Posts: 678
    mtm wrote: »
    But you're unable to articulate why? Perhaps it doesn't matter as much as you think it does.
    Now you want us to articulate why? After you asked who cares about it?

    I don't think you realize how smug you sound at this point. "It doesn't matter as much as I think it does"? Oh my, you totally know my preferences better than I do.

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    Any update concerning your photos of Matera, @slyfox ?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Nothing new from Craig's interview with Colbert.
  • edited November 2019 Posts: 12,462
    Pity. The wait continues!

    EDIT: A neat site I found that is keeping track of the entire pre-production, production, and post-production of NTTD. Interesting to look through everything again and see all that's happened!

    https://spycommandfeatures.wordpress.com/
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited November 2019 Posts: 3,022
    While we're waiting for Colbert show



    First Ana with Chris Evans, then Craig with Jamie. Same press junket this past week but with new interviewers


  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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  • edited November 2019 Posts: 5,767

    First time I saw that. It´s brilliant. Why didn´t they make that film?



    Colbert is a good interviewer. Giving Bond about 4 min, so it´s out of the way and they can talk, albeit only a few words, meaningfully about Knives Out. That clip sold me ten times more than any trailer or clip I´ve seen of the film before. Craig might have done a proper southern accent in Logan Lucky, but here he really is on fire, not just his accent. If the other actors shine even half as much as Craig and Curtis do in this clip, I´ll be extatic.
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    Wow, what happened to Craig? He's GREAT at the interview game now! So much at ease. Better than his host, actually. And he'd talk more if Colbert had let him. Wow, good for him, I say.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    Any update concerning your photos of Matera, @slyfox ?

    He's having too much fun on vacation, but he's working on it. ;)
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    00Agent wrote: »
    Any update concerning your photos of Matera, @slyfox ?

    He's having too much fun on vacation, but he's working on it. ;)

    He's in Columbia now I think. Promised to let us have some material when he have the time
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,392
    Univex wrote: »
    Wow, what happened to Craig? He's GREAT at the interview game now! So much at ease. Better than his host, actually. And he'd talk more if Colbert had let him. Wow, good for him, I say.

    It's because he's finally done with Bond. We saw a similar thing with Harrison Ford during Force Awakens.
  • edited November 2019 Posts: 17,740
    Univex wrote: »
    Wow, what happened to Craig? He's GREAT at the interview game now! So much at ease. Better than his host, actually. And he'd talk more if Colbert had let him. Wow, good for him, I say.

    Probably just happy thinking about the…

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    …he's made from NTTD ;-)
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited November 2019 Posts: 5,185
    I'm very glad to hear that Daniel picked PWB over Killing Eve, which makes a lot more sense than picking her over Fleabag. There's just nothing bondian in Fleabag, while KE has many Bondian elements.
    Also this makes me wonder if we do have a femme fatale in the movie after all.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 2019 Posts: 16,343

    We are talking the official marketing campaign here. Not fraudulent leaks. Do you know why people inhere are so frustrated to get some official info/material for NTTD? Because back in 2015 we had far more. With NTTD we are almost 5 months away from the premiere and we genuinely know nothing (which is exciting, if you ask me). Basically, we don't even know where the PTS will 100% take place. We are not even sure if Romer is still the composer. We have no idea how the film will look nor how half of the cast will look. Zero stills, except one where Bond doesn't even look quite... Bondian (yet is cool). And all this, taking into account that the first footage will be available in a month. And that's the encouraging forecast. Basically the marketing campaign will kick 4 months before release, which is unusual for a blockbuster of this scale. So yes, this production has been quite secretive.

    How are you saying that compares to Spectre? I genuinely don’t recall what we knew 5 months out. Had they said what the pre-titles would be and released stills of Blofeld?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mtm wrote: »
    But you're unable to articulate why? Perhaps it doesn't matter as much as you think it does.
    Now you want us to articulate why? After you asked who cares about it?

    I don't think you realize how smug you sound at this point. "It doesn't matter as much as I think it does"? Oh my, you totally know my preferences better than I do.

    Well if you’re saying all of these people working extremely hard over the past decade or so did a bad job I think it’s reasonable to ask why you’d say that about them. But instead you’re just having a go at me.
  • DeerAtTheGatesDeerAtTheGates Belgium
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    JamesCraig wrote: »

    I know you're still sceptical about it, but in Craig's mind, he's really done (at the moment).

    He reaffirmed on Colbert:
    Colbert: Now, when you're done with Bond... Are you done with Bond?
    Craig: Yes.
    Colbert: You're done with Bond?!
    Craig: (silently) It's done.

    The way he said it... There's no doubt in my mind that DC has said goodbye to the role, mentally.
    I know a lot of things can happen from the NTTD premiere through Bond 26, and he might change his mind later, but for now it's over.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    JamesCraig wrote: »

    I know you're still sceptical about it, but in Craig's mind, he's really done (at the moment).

    He reaffirmed on Colbert:
    Colbert: Now, when you're done with Bond... Are you done with Bond?
    Craig: Yes.
    Colbert: You're done with Bond?!
    Craig: (silently) It's done.

    The way he said it... There's no doubt in my mind that DC has said goodbye to the role, mentally.
    I know a lot of things can happen from the NTTD premiere through Bond 26, and he might change his mind later, but for now it's over.

    Well, they could've picked a better source.

    I think it's over, but I'm still waiting for an official confirmation. :-? B-)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited November 2019 Posts: 8,392
    How much more official can you get than from the horses mouth?

    Personally I thinks its obvious
    he is done from his aura. There is a sense of relief and relaxedness which indicates to me that whatever happens now, its not his problem anymore. Like a weight off the shoulders.
  • StrelikStrelik Spectre Island
    edited November 2019 Posts: 108
    00Agent wrote: »
    I'm very glad to hear that Daniel picked PWB over Killing Eve, which makes a lot more sense than picking her over Fleabag. There's just nothing bondian in Fleabag, while KE has many Bondian elements.

    Yes. Frankly, I hope Craig stays on as a producer in the Bond franchise after his departure from the role. In every single Bond film he has made, Craig has fought behind the scenes for better quality screenplays (much as Brosnan did but without similar success).

    For NTTD, Craig approached PWB to rewrite the screenplay. For SP, he approached Jez Butterworth to rewrite the script (a fact we learned from the Sony leaks). I can only imagine what the Craig era would have been like if the scripts had not been rewritten and were 100% by Purvis & Wade.

    With Craig's departure, I hope Babs doesn't return to her pre-Craig approach of just using scripts by Purvis & Wade with minimal polishing by others. That would be a dispiriting thought.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    Strelik wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    I'm very glad to hear that Daniel picked PWB over Killing Eve, which makes a lot more sense than picking her over Fleabag. There's just nothing bondian in Fleabag, while KE has many Bondian elements.

    Yes. Frankly, I hope Craig stays on as a producer in the Bond franchise after his departure from the role. In every single Bond film he has made, Craig fought behind the scenes for better quality screenplays (much as Brosnan did but without similar success).

    For NTTD, Craig approached PWB to rewrite the screenplay. For SP, he approached Jez Butterworth to rewrite the script (a fact we learned from the Sony leaks). I can only imagine what the Craig era would have been like if the scripts had not been rewritten and were 100% by Purvis & Wade.

    With Craig's departure, I hope Babs doesn't return to her pre-Craig approach of just using scripts solely written by Purvis & Wade with minimal polishing by other writers. That would be a dispiriting thought.

    +1 Craig has his fingerprints all over his era.
    I can't imagine P&W sticking around though. They wanted to leave 2 movies ago, and must be pretty much burned out by now, and they know it. I don't even understand what they could have possibly contributed to NTTD with so many writers joining in afterwards.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    How much more official can you get than from the horses mouth?

    Personally I thinks its obvious
    he is done from his aura. There is a sense of relief and relaxedness which indicates to me that whatever happens now, its not his problem anymore. Like a weight off the shoulders.

    You really do this on purpose don't you.

    I said that I'm sure he'll retire after NTTD, but that I'm waiting for a more "proper" confirmation.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,343
    JamesCraig wrote: »

    I know you're still sceptical about it, but in Craig's mind, he's really done (at the moment).

    He reaffirmed on Colbert:
    Colbert: Now, when you're done with Bond... Are you done with Bond?
    Craig: Yes.
    Colbert: You're done with Bond?!
    Craig: (silently) It's done.

    The way he said it... There's no doubt in my mind that DC has said goodbye to the role, mentally.
    I know a lot of things can happen from the NTTD premiere through Bond 26, and he might change his mind later, but for now it's over.

    I’m sad about that (although maybe it’s a really hardball negotiation position! :) ), but happy that we’ve got one more to look forward to.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited November 2019 Posts: 4,512
    4th episode of Killing Eve there made hugh mistake at the end.
    It end with black screen and spoiler moment in preview of episode 5 that follows.

    The series sofar ( i record all 15 episodes that have been on tv)King remember me to QOS and The Talented Mr Ripley. The first episode whas moost heavy of all of them with trowing a lot of information. Second helps the story foward and 4th episode was more heavy again. Very black humor and sarcasm. Some things look like predectibil, some are but then a twist coming. Killing Eve as title why was my first opnion, but besides the explanation in ep3 i think it is a bit like Another Way To Die. Sometimes i missing explanation why, what motives be for her work besides the kick she get from it.

    I watch two episodes in two days with The 3th and 4th episode and turn out there are contuned episodes, a good match together.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    edited November 2019 Posts: 2,537
    For those unable to watch Daniel's interview on 'The Late Show with Stephen Colbert', here is the full transcript:

    https://wp.me/p7Z61O-Zo
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    It was a pretty good interview wish he was on more.
  • Craig has been on a charm offensive on the Knives Out press tour. I suspect that is because he's been teamed up with Jamie Lee-Curtis and she's a v outgoing figure. Clearly she's bringing the best out of DC.

    I think if Eon are paying attention they should team him up with someone in press junkets. Perhaps, Lashana? She seems very charming and outgoing in interviews.

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