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  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited December 2019 Posts: 3,022
    mtm wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Yesterday evening - Pinewood Studios Christmas ball


    That ice cream maker also wrote: "garbanzos_ice_cream All set to go at the Pinewood Studios Christmas ball! Will Daniel Craig make a secret appearance... #007 #selfiemirror #xmasparty #chocolatefountain #eventshire #london #southwest"

    Can we find pictures, videos/insta stories on the net possibly?

    The answer is probably: no, he lives in New York and not some weirdly rural bit of very north London! :)

    Yeah I was more thinking of party pics in general. Craig is just a bonus. I'm not that clueless.. 8-}
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,340
    Contraband wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Yesterday evening - Pinewood Studios Christmas ball


    That ice cream maker also wrote: "garbanzos_ice_cream All set to go at the Pinewood Studios Christmas ball! Will Daniel Craig make a secret appearance... #007 #selfiemirror #xmasparty #chocolatefountain #eventshire #london #southwest"

    Can we find pictures, videos/insta stories on the net possibly?

    The answer is probably: no, he lives in New York and not some weirdly rural bit of very north London! :)

    Yeah I was more thinking of party pics in general. Craig is just a bonus. I'm not that clueless.. 8-}

    I was answering the twitter person; not you! Nothing personal intended :)
  • Bond fans: “Bond films shouldn’t follow trends of other films!”

    Also Bond Fans: “They should just do what M:I did!”

    Ok irrespective of fallout I just hope there is more than the bike stunt. Because that I can see without any movie tricks at any bike show anywhere. I dont care about the amount of action but there should be something that surprises me and that I cant see everywhere else
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    danielcc wrote: »
    Bond fans: “Bond films shouldn’t follow trends of other films!”

    Also Bond Fans: “They should just do what M:I did!”

    Ok irrespective of fallout I just hope there is more than the bike stunt. Because that I can see without any movie tricks at any bike show anywhere. I dont care about the amount of action but there should be something that surprises me and that I cant see everywhere else

    An invisible motorcycle jump.
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    danielcc wrote: »
    Bond fans: “Bond films shouldn’t follow trends of other films!”

    Also Bond Fans: “They should just do what M:I did!”

    Ok irrespective of fallout I just hope there is more than the bike stunt. Because that I can see without any movie tricks at any bike show anywhere. I dont care about the amount of action but there should be something that surprises me and that I cant see everywhere else
    You’ve seen two minutes of a 2 hour + movie.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,179
    EON isn’t obligated to copy Tom Cruise’s vanity projects, so it’s no big deal to me if that bike jump is the most elaborate stunt.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    mtm wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Yesterday evening - Pinewood Studios Christmas ball


    That ice cream maker also wrote: "garbanzos_ice_cream All set to go at the Pinewood Studios Christmas ball! Will Daniel Craig make a secret appearance... #007 #selfiemirror #xmasparty #chocolatefountain #eventshire #london #southwest"

    Can we find pictures, videos/insta stories on the net possibly?

    The answer is probably: no, he lives in New York and not some weirdly rural bit of very north London! :)

    Yeah I was more thinking of party pics in general. Craig is just a bonus. I'm not that clueless.. 8-}

    I was answering the twitter person; not you! Nothing personal intended :)

    LOL... Noted
  • EON isn’t obligated to copy Tom Cruise’s vanity projects, so it’s no big deal to me if that bike jump is the most elaborate stunt.

    Story is key.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited December 2019 Posts: 16,340
    EON isn’t obligated to copy Tom Cruise’s vanity projects, so it’s no big deal to me if that bike jump is the most elaborate stunt.

    Story is key.

    So hopefully they’ve got one which works as well as the last couple of M:Is too! :)
  • duke_togoduke_togo france
    Posts: 138
    I wonder where Fukunaga will use his trademark long take sequence in the movie, i really hope it will be for a hypothetical car chase on the Norway Atlantic Road but i'm pretty sure it will be for the Cuba sequence with De Armas...
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited December 2019 Posts: 4,247
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.

    Bond is about style and atmosphere. When they get it spot on it can’t be bettered. Something like M:I doesn’t even come close. Gadgets are window dressing.
  • edited December 2019 Posts: 5,767
    EON isn’t obligated to copy Tom Cruise’s vanity projects, so it’s no big deal to me if that bike jump is the most elaborate stunt.

    Story is key.
    Storytelling is key.



    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.
    Who was it Cubby or Harry said, Bond stands out from the competition because he got style. Bond had films with gadgets and films without gadgets, and he always made a good impression.


    RC7 wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.

    Bond is about style and atmosphere. When they get it spot on it can’t be bettered. Something like M:I doesn’t even come close. Gadgets are window dressing.
    M:I doesn´t need to come close, because it´s its own thing. There is no need for seeing them as competition so much. It´s great to have both, plus others. Makes life richer.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited December 2019 Posts: 4,247
    RC7 wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.

    Bond is about style and atmosphere. When they get it spot on it can’t be bettered. Something like M:I doesn’t even come close. Gadgets are window dressing.

    Yeah, true...Bond was always about style....I think Bond travelling with a Sophisticated Suit case was very stylish. I don't mean ludicrous gadgets like an invisible car & all that. At least something that would prompt Awe of some sort...but still retains an engaging plot.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited December 2019 Posts: 4,247
    boldfinger wrote: »
    EON isn’t obligated to copy Tom Cruise’s vanity projects, so it’s no big deal to me if that bike jump is the most elaborate stunt.

    Story is key.
    Storytelling is key.



    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.
    Who was it Cubby or Harry said, Bond stands out from the competition because he got style. Bond had films with gadgets and films without gadgets, and he always made a good impression.

    Sure...he always did. Am just saying those comparisons started when he was stripped off his Gadgets. People won't compare him to Bourne or Hunt...if he still used Gadgets of some sort.
  • Posts: 5,767
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    EON isn’t obligated to copy Tom Cruise’s vanity projects, so it’s no big deal to me if that bike jump is the most elaborate stunt.

    Story is key.
    Storytelling is key.



    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.
    Who was it Cubby or Harry said, Bond stands out from the competition because he got style. Bond had films with gadgets and films without gadgets, and he always made a good impression.

    Sure...he always did. Am just saying those comparisons started when he was stripped off his Gadgets. People won't compare him to Bourne or Hunt...if he still used Gadgets of some sort.
    Hardly anyone would compare Bond with Bourne or Hunt, if the media wouldn´t invent stories. Bond didn´t have much gadgets in LALD, or FYEO. He did have gadgets in LTK, and was nevertheless compared to Die Hard and other films, again, mostly and firstly by the media. Bond was compared to Bourne before CR had no gadgets.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited December 2019 Posts: 4,247
    boldfinger wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    EON isn’t obligated to copy Tom Cruise’s vanity projects, so it’s no big deal to me if that bike jump is the most elaborate stunt.

    Story is key.
    Storytelling is key.



    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.
    Who was it Cubby or Harry said, Bond stands out from the competition because he got style. Bond had films with gadgets and films without gadgets, and he always made a good impression.

    Sure...he always did. Am just saying those comparisons started when he was stripped off his Gadgets. People won't compare him to Bourne or Hunt...if he still used Gadgets of some sort.
    Hardly anyone would compare Bond with Bourne or Hunt, if the media wouldn´t invent stories. Bond didn´t have much gadgets in LALD, or FYEO. He did have gadgets in LTK, and was nevertheless compared to Die Hard and other films, again, mostly and firstly by the media. Bond was compared to Bourne before CR had no gadgets.

    Yeah, true....the media always spearheaded those comparisons.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited December 2019 Posts: 16,340
    RC7 wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.

    Bond is about style and atmosphere. When they get it spot on it can’t be bettered. Something like M:I doesn’t even come close. Gadgets are window dressing.

    Yes definitely: that's its USP- they're fairly average adventure films made with much more artistry than they really have any right to be: beautiful sets, music etc. M:I doesn't try to do the same thing (they're also not about celebrating the main character in the way the Bond films are), but Bond films do need to be exciting and have a satisfying plot too, and when it comes to comparisons with Fallout, Spectre didn't even come close.
    boldfinger wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    EON isn’t obligated to copy Tom Cruise’s vanity projects, so it’s no big deal to me if that bike jump is the most elaborate stunt.

    Story is key.
    Storytelling is key.



    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.
    Who was it Cubby or Harry said, Bond stands out from the competition because he got style. Bond had films with gadgets and films without gadgets, and he always made a good impression.

    Sure...he always did. Am just saying those comparisons started when he was stripped off his Gadgets. People won't compare him to Bourne or Hunt...if he still used Gadgets of some sort.
    Hardly anyone would compare Bond with Bourne or Hunt, if the media wouldn´t invent stories.

    They're both action films aimed at the same market: comparisons are very valid. Bond even ended up poaching some of the Bourne people- it would seem odd to say they're utterly unrelated.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    SF was more about M than bond, so no bond films are not always about celebrating bond's character.
    Secondly, that poker scene from CR and courtroom Scene from SF is one of the best examples on how to create tense atmosphere without much action.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited December 2019 Posts: 16,340
    SF was more about M than bond, so no bond films are not always about celebrating bond's character.
    Nah: we follow Bond for the whole thing and stuff like his entrance to the casino, unveiling his car etc. is purely about this man and how great he is. The plot was about a baddie chasing M but the film, as always, was about Bond.
    M:I films show Hunt doing equally impressive stuff but they're never really a celebration of the character (which is fine: they both do things in different ways).
  • Posts: 15,106
    RC7 wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Once the end credits of Fallout rolled, I remember a friend telling me 'James bond might feel intimidated by this film'. I sincerely think Bond's lack of Gadgets, might be the reason for all the comparisons with other Spy franchises.Even Michael Caine's Harry Palmer had to be done in a minimalist way to standout, even if he had little traits of Bond.it's just that DAD took the Gadget thing too far, but Bond started the whole Gadget thing & that's what made him different from other franchises.I think if Bond returns back to the style of GF, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc which showcased gadgets but never forgot the plot, he will standout again.

    Bond is about style and atmosphere. When they get it spot on it can’t be bettered. Something like M:I doesn’t even come close. Gadgets are window dressing.

    I agree. Gadgets are of secondary importance at best.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    I like most of the MI movies, even the second one has it's moments.

    But I hope they won't go for another "teh IMF will be shut down, betrayud" angle.
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    Boy, am I sure glad that Bond and M:I together give me 30 great movies to watch at any given moment, soon to be 33. Toss Bourne in there, and that number jumps to 38. Oh, we can include Jack Ryan and John Wick as well. 46 films! If I keep going a little further, I'd have an action-spy thriller for every week of the year!

    Film doesn't need to be Xbox vs Playstation, DC vs Marvel, or whatever Sportsball arguments people like to get into. Appreciate the qualities of both and you'll be all the happier for it. Not everything needs to descend into tribal warfare.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,179
    Funny thing is we’ve only had ONE film where Hunt didn’t go rogue and that was the second. Otherwise he always seems to be on the run!
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 1,165
    Funny thing is we’ve only had ONE film where Hunt didn’t go rogue and that was the second. Otherwise he always seems to be on the run!
    An excellent point that often gets overlooked.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,205
    Minion wrote: »
    Funny thing is we’ve only had ONE film where Hunt didn’t go rogue and that was the second. Otherwise he always seems to be on the run!
    An excellent point that often gets overlooked.

    It's actually been brought up quite a bit. But that doesn't make it any less valid. Though, to me, it's a franchise staple so I never had much of an issue with it. I have more of an issue with Bond doing regularly.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,541
    mtm wrote: »
    SF was more about M than bond, so no bond films are not always about celebrating bond's character.
    Nah: we follow Bond for the whole thing and stuff like his entrance to the casino, unveiling his car etc. is purely about this man and how great he is. The plot was about a baddie chasing M but the film, as always, was about Bond.
    M:I films show Hunt doing equally impressive stuff but they're never really a celebration of the character (which is fine: they both do things in different ways).

    What God no , SF plot was Silva getting his revenge on M. Bond was just played supporting. Mind you it's the only bond film where bond was missing for quite sometime after title sequence- mi6 opening/ M & Mallory conversation/ headquarters attack.

    Mi movies is about Hunt because if it isn't how come we never knew anything personal stuff about other supporting characters.
    Bond films showed Moneypenny bf in SP /M had an husband who appear slightly in CR bed Scene when an mi6 operative called him when bond login to M's account and she mentioned him in SF Tennyson line as well /Q has a cat(although it doesn't really matter) ,they do care about the supporting Characters as much as the lead, something which is yet to happen in MI.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,179
    mtm wrote: »
    SF was more about M than bond, so no bond films are not always about celebrating bond's character.
    Nah: we follow Bond for the whole thing and stuff like his entrance to the casino, unveiling his car etc. is purely about this man and how great he is. The plot was about a baddie chasing M but the film, as always, was about Bond.
    M:I films show Hunt doing equally impressive stuff but they're never really a celebration of the character (which is fine: they both do things in different ways).

    What God no , SF plot was Silva getting his revenge on M. Bond was just played supporting. Mind you it's the only bond film where bond was missing for quite sometime after title sequence- mi6 opening/ M & Mallory conversation/ headquarters attack.

    That was only five minutes, maybe even less.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited December 2019 Posts: 16,340
    Minion wrote: »
    Boy, am I sure glad that Bond and M:I together give me 30 great movies to watch at any given moment, soon to be 33. Toss Bourne in there, and that number jumps to 38. Oh, we can include Jack Ryan and John Wick as well. 46 films! If I keep going a little further, I'd have an action-spy thriller for every week of the year!

    Film doesn't need to be Xbox vs Playstation, DC vs Marvel, or whatever Sportsball arguments people like to get into. Appreciate the qualities of both and you'll be all the happier for it. Not everything needs to descend into tribal warfare.

    Yes they’re ace. Well, maybe not Ryan so regularly! :)
    mtm wrote: »
    SF was more about M than bond, so no bond films are not always about celebrating bond's character.
    Nah: we follow Bond for the whole thing and stuff like his entrance to the casino, unveiling his car etc. is purely about this man and how great he is. The plot was about a baddie chasing M but the film, as always, was about Bond.
    M:I films show Hunt doing equally impressive stuff but they're never really a celebration of the character (which is fine: they both do things in different ways).

    What God no , SF plot was Silva getting his revenge on M. Bond was just played supporting. Mind you it's the only bond film where bond was missing for quite sometime after title sequence- mi6 opening/ M & Mallory conversation/ headquarters attack.

    This is not true. Many Bond films have plots which aren’t about Bond (YOLT is about some rockets going missing for example) but all of the films are about him.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,541
    mtm wrote: »
    SF was more about M than bond, so no bond films are not always about celebrating bond's character.
    Nah: we follow Bond for the whole thing and stuff like his entrance to the casino, unveiling his car etc. is purely about this man and how great he is. The plot was about a baddie chasing M but the film, as always, was about Bond.
    M:I films show Hunt doing equally impressive stuff but they're never really a celebration of the character (which is fine: they both do things in different ways).

    What God no , SF plot was Silva getting his revenge on M. Bond was just played supporting. Mind you it's the only bond film where bond was missing for quite sometime after title sequence- mi6 opening/ M & Mallory conversation/ headquarters attack.

    That was only five minutes, maybe even less.

    More I would say but my point was M has far more screen time than any of the supporting characters or previous M's. After Silva got captured M was almost there for every single scene and what film doesn't have a lead Characters Rambo/Jason Bourne you name it. Bond film's don't just create style or show beautiful landscapes, it's more about creating an atmosphere which happens twice in Craig era which I mentioned above.
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