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Most people here don't seem to understand Bond or even think they understand it better than its own creator. It doesn't surprise me, fans seem to do it with every property.
Bingo
So there you have it.
Now can we go back to discussing why Barbara Broccoli thinks this (NTTD) is the quintessential Bond flick? Are they Dieanotherdaying this thing, kitchen sink and all, or are they Goldfingering it (now that just sounds naughty)?
I agree, But I wasn't referring to a library. The Bond movies are action-movies, first and foremost. They inserted a couple of action setpieces in the very Bond-movie that follows one of his novels the closest, to remind us.
No one wants a two hour car chase. But there has to be set pieces. In between them: Bondgirls women, gambling, humour, great one-liners and dialogue, a scheming villain, a fistfight or two and some glamorous location.
Like THE JACKMAN IS TOO TALL TO PLAY TEH WOLVERINE...
He did rather well imho.
A little reminder: all of Craig films are genuine action movies.
Injecting the plot with a little drama and more emotional weight doesn't make those films less action driven.
I try not to worry too much and hope for the best. And all the elements are more or less there. Like they were there in SP. But still I found something missing there somehow. Judging from the trailer, my worry for NTTD is primarily that I think the action-scenes look like they could have been from any other big budget action-movie (except the clip with the DB5 guns). No new crazy gadgets helping him out of an impossible situation, no prototype vehicle from Q branch, no something outlandish as Bond trying to stear a snowplane on the ground towards two landrovers or driving a CAT on top of a moving train. NTTD looks more low-key to me. Bond drives a couple of cars and steals a bike. Well...okay.
But yes, he did very good.
I´m having a real hard time imagining they have this fantastic new Q and don´t have him dish out some gadgets in the 25th Bond film, but a lot of Bond films did pretty well with not many gadgets. Anyhow, many times there´s just one action sequence where Bond uses all his gadgets, and the rest of the film he manages without.
Are there many action films without laughs or drama? I struggle to think of many Schwarzeneggers without jokes in. Bond films are in many ways the original action films. There’s nothing wrong with that.
This fantastic new Q has over the course of two movies given us:
- a signature gun
- a radio transmitter
- a watch
- a car with some gadgets
"An exploding pen. We don't really do that anymore."
Well, please do. A wristdartgun, a ski-pole gun, X-ray polaroid. Anything! Has Q branch lost its ingenuity? I didn't notice one single gadget in the NTTD trailer, except the well-known DB5 guns. Maybe Bond will use acid cat litter picked up from Q's apartment or something, since the once and beloved Q-lab looks like a thing from the past.
I just don't see giving Bond gadgets that good an idea, just handing him something random and it happening to get him out of a tight spot worked in the previous era, although it got quite contrived after a while then.
They can't do that in this era, maybe they'll come up with an idea to introduce them more with the next Bond but I think they are wary and I don't blame them.
Just because a bunch of fans what a return to the vintage Bond doesn't mean something that would likely look dated and contrived should be bought back.
Yes, we should just throw the very things that made us become Bond-fans in the first place out with the bathwater. No wonder I have found the last three MI-movies to be much more fun, than the last two Bond-movies. Bond should be using those gadgets.
Some things just need no changing. Like having a PTS or fancy main titles and a title song. Having gadgets in the movie, Bond travelling to foreign countries, getting briefed by M etc.
That's a poor example, because if I remember correct there are lightsabers in every Star Wars movies. And I do believe in icons. That's why I loved the return of the Millenium Falcon in EP VII.
Well just because the gadgets aren’t in the trailer doesn’t mean they aren’t in the film. Do gadgets often make it to the trailers?
The DB5 has a button marked ‘flame’ incidentally...
Ah no; you’re not allowed to think that around here ;)