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Before Bond is back in London he asks her “are you a double o?”
Then finally in MI6 “send in 007” they both get up and give each other awkward looks. Eventually Bond lets Nomi go first. Confirming she is 007 but without beating the audience over the head with it.
Although likely some more awkward interplay in M’s office that is typical of Waller-Bridges comedy style.
That’s my take on how they’re gonna handle it.
There will be a flashback scene of Nomi's first two kills in Black & White :D
If we look at Fleming’s Moonraker, agents cannot be double 0 if they’re 45+ older, so I wouldn’t mind Craig’s retired Bond not having it back.
Very cool outfit.
Louis Vuitton
Another reason why it's now a gimmick
I think it's the best idea, they should also do this with Safin and the Dr No theory, no real answer like the suit case in "Pulp Fiction" or the spinning top in "Inception", and everyone will have their proper interpretation and we will still talk about this in 20 years.
No, no, no. They have a very different layout. Compare these with the ones from GE's pre titles or Arecibo, and you'll find they are very very different. Take a look at Safin's lair interior as show in the trailer. It's massive. And if we look at the designs from High-rise, we can clearly see an influence closer to Adam. Take a look at that dome like the one from Dr. No, for example. Tildesley clearly is a Ken Adam fan. How couldn't he be? I, for one, am very optimistic about this film's art production. I've been championing for him to be involved with the Bond films for ages. Mark Tildesley is brilliant, and this film will look brilliant.
But @matt_u is the expert here. We should ask him. Mr. Roark, what are Tildesley's clear influences from what we've seen? And what are your thoughts on the art production so far, architecturally speaking. I know you've had some gripes with SP. But from what we've seen, what are your views and expectations? (questions directed to @matt_u, of course).
Interesting thoughts @00Dalton7.
And the longest one yet @-)
I have been beating this dead horse for weeks: James Bond is 007. He might not be in the beginning, and if that were the case, he'd regain his agent # at some point. But my guess is that all of this speculation will prove to be in vain: Nomi won't be 007 at all. At the same time, @00Dalton7 may be on to something. That scenario could easily play out, with Nomi relinquishing the number at that point.
Why can't in this "Craig-era universe", the next 007 be Nomi, and then they'll reboot it again with a new James Bond, who will be 007. I think that's way simpler than just having the number flip flop between people, and not to mention the whole "James, you can be 007 again, I'll be 006 or 008. Cool. Thanks bro." (paraphrasing obviously) I dunno about that, would feel like a really pointless addition to the film. Especially if our theory about him seeing her as his former self in CR is right, cause why would you end that with - "Ok, I've taught you everthing I know, and you've also helped me, now step aside love..."
(Again paraphrasing haha)
I just think if it's his last film anyway, he might as well just stay retired. Also, he kept going rogue anyway so he might as well have a whole film of not being 007 haha.
Would definitely not be surprised. Especially with tickets supposedly due next week, would be the place to announce it...
EXACTLY, thank you!
I think he will be re-instated in some official capacity for this mission. Why else would he bother going back to MI6? And he's getting support from Q and MP etc.
Whether he gets his number back is anybody's guess, and i am open to seeing how it will play out. I understand he's retired (and will probably go back to retirement by the end) so there is no real need to give him the 007 number back. But for example i would be ok if he gets the 7777 number instead.
Again, here is the problem with that line of thinking: the "007" code numer is 100% associated with James Bond. Even if it makes sense for this film to play with that a little, EON can't allow it to go on for all or most of the film. It's messing with their brand. There has been no attempt to pull back from publicatioons continuously saying that this is "Daniel Craig's final adventure as 007." These headlines and subtitles have been going for weeks, now. Plus, there is the thornier issue of the lobby display, in which DC is front and center, and the '007" logo is behind him.
You don't go making a "007" film and then not have "007" be "007." It would be idiotic.
I can see that, and it could also make for a very satisfying scene of him "earning" it back, or getting it back, almost like the countless scenes of him getting the DB5 back that we have now.
IF Nomi has it... it could be a little underwhelming, or feel like a missed opportunity, if he does not get it back from her in NTTD. Completely depends on how it's written of course.
Also imagine M saying: Ready to get back to work James Bond?
That feels totally off lol.
I think for his official last hurrah it would be very satisfying to give it back to him, and might even feel weird if he's not 007.
Also M can clarify to him that it is a temporary reinstatement, so there is no confusion.
I'm also interested to See if M wants him back at all, or if he's hesitant but sees the need.
More open questions.
+1 @TripAces it would be very dumb. It would turn people away from the film.
Says who?
The whole gambit of Nomi as 007 plays on the idea of the public - and Bond himself - considering himself 007. So the whole dynamic and the rivalry/eventual collaboration between Bond and Nomi is built upon Bond still thinking 007 belongs to him even if he's retired.
EON don't give two craps about how the press is referring to NTTD as this or that. They don't find a problem with it at all. Because the whole idea is that while *we* know Bond as the one true 007, that codename isn't wed to him in reality. And, the reason there's been no attempt, why 007 is still on the marketing (that doesn't have to reflect the film!) is the fact they for now want to keep it under wraps on an official level...
And, lastly, they don't need to give it back to Craig's Bond in this film because the next will be a reboot anyway.
So this Bond movie is supposed to be decisive to buy tickets and piss off at least half of fans? People might not want to come back if they were so pissed by the last one and this one.
Exactly. All a moot discussion, really. All it does is flare people up.
I mean...yes, in a way? Barbara and Fukunaga are playing with these ideas, who do we view as 007 in the public eye, do James Bond and 007 have to be so closely linked...and in the end, what's the best way to make what's seen as one of the most 'regressive' film franchises today more diverse.
And while half the older fans may be pissed off, is more than made up by new, younger (and, given who's playing Nomi, black) fans who'll be - and Lashana has brought this up, basically confirming she is 007 in this film - overjoyed and inspired by someone like her in Bond's shoes.
And going back to the film at hand as opposed to public optics, CraigBond's story ending with him passing on the 007 mantle to someone else makes sense.