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  • Posts: 4,408
    Getting some serious Blofeld energy here.....

  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Those release date are just placeholders. Bond will want to avoid a Marvel film like he avoided that train in Skyfall. Going head to head with Black Widow will doom Bond.

    November is Home to Eon. They feel overly assured with November, Regardless of who they're up against. I think it's Marvel who should be concerned, not that Black Widow will flop....but the World have missed Bond for Half-a-Decade.....almost anywhere one turns, one can find a Marvel film or at least multiple trailers of a Marvel film. Both films will do well, but it's going to be the battle of the 1billion Mark. And judging by Bond's lengthy Absence, I can't help but point his Way.

    Marvel has a loyal fanbase. They don't care about any of that.

    There's only this to care about ;-):

    ECjJJAc.jpg

    Exactly :) Remove her & the Movie Flops.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Those release date are just placeholders. Bond will want to avoid a Marvel film like he avoided that train in Skyfall. Going head to head with Black Widow will doom Bond.

    November is Home to Eon. They feel overly assured with November, Regardless of who they're up against. I think it's Marvel who should be concerned, not that Black Widow will flop....but the World have missed Bond for Half-a-Decade.....almost anywhere one turns, one can find a Marvel film or at least multiple trailers of a Marvel film. Both films will do well, but it's going to be the battle of the 1billion Mark. And judging by Bond's lengthy Absence, I can't help but point his Way.

    Marvel has a loyal fanbase. They don't care about any of that.

    There's only this to care about ;-):

    ECjJJAc.jpg

    Exactly :) Remove her & the Movie Flops.

    She's perfect for the part imho. :-)
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited April 2020 Posts: 4,247
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Those release date are just placeholders. Bond will want to avoid a Marvel film like he avoided that train in Skyfall. Going head to head with Black Widow will doom Bond.

    November is Home to Eon. They feel overly assured with November, Regardless of who they're up against. I think it's Marvel who should be concerned, not that Black Widow will flop....but the World have missed Bond for Half-a-Decade.....almost anywhere one turns, one can find a Marvel film or at least multiple trailers of a Marvel film. Both films will do well, but it's going to be the battle of the 1billion Mark. And judging by Bond's lengthy Absence, I can't help but point his Way.

    Marvel has a loyal fanbase. They don't care about any of that.

    There's only this to care about ;-):

    ECjJJAc.jpg

    Exactly :) Remove her & the Movie Flops.

    She's perfect for the part imho. :-)

    Yeah, She was Born to Play Black Widow...fits her like a Glove. Maybe her Career Defining Role....and having Florence Pugh for Company this time, is also Great....liked Pugh ever since I saw her in LADY MACBETH, she was great in that film. Hope BLACK WIDOW is Better than the trailer though. :)
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,536


    The Robb Report confirms that the Valhalla will make a cameo appearance in NTTD.
  • edited April 2020 Posts: 4,408
    Red_Snow wrote: »


    The Robb Report confirms that the Valhalla will make a cameo appearance in NTTD.

    The Valhalla story intrigues me......it clearly plays a bigger role than people have hinted in these articles. Esquire stated that the Valhalla will only be seen in Q's workshop. However, we saw it in Scotland.

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    Here's my take........Bond either dies or retires in NTTD, the last scene of the film will be Nomi on a mission in the Valhalla and perhaps she introduces herself in the last scene? Akin to the end of CR? I think we may have even seen a moment in a TV spot...

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    What better way for the Craig-era to come full circle. After all, he's grown old and weary and now we see his protege inherit his mantle and take on some of that 007 swagger. She doesn't even need to say her name, just turn and look. It be pretty cool.....

    Basically, they are lying about the extent of the Valhalla's role. So it must have something to do with the end?

    Cc: @antovolk
  • StarkStark France
    Posts: 177
    matt_u wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Cary also put to rest the idea that they're editing/re-shooting. He said something like that is costly-- yes, even on a Bond film. Secondly he discussed any project can be tinkered with, to what end. He said that NTTD is perfect as is, it's a great film, and it was his hope that others will feel the same.

    Exactly. Fukunaga himself basically shut down all that nonsense regarding potential reshoot/trimming/further polishing: NTTD is locked, 100% finished and the director is 100% happy with it.

    The movie is great as it is.

    K1CLJVb.jpg

    They have a director like Fukunaga and they don't give him time to perfect the film... Shameful. I imagine he wants to improve some special effects but that costs too much money.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2020 Posts: 16,338
    Red_Snow wrote: »


    The Robb Report confirms that the Valhalla will make a cameo appearance in NTTD.

    The Valhalla story intrigues me......it clearly plays a bigger role than people have hinted in these articles. Esquire stated that the Valhalla will only be seen in Q's workshop. However, we saw it in Scotland.

    16574808-0-image-a-20_1564250491598.jpg
    filming-in-the-scottish-highlands-for-the-bond-25-film-the-car-is-an-aston-martin-valhalla-W5TE94.jpg

    Here's my take........Bond either dies or retires in NTTD, the last scene of the film will be Nomi on a mission in the Valhalla and perhaps she introduces herself in the last scene? Akin to the end of CR? I think we may have even seen a moment in a TV spot...

    EP2Mk-ZXkAAaV_l?format=jpg&name=large
    casino-royale-movie-screencaps.com-16640.jpg?strip=all

    What better way for the Craig-era to come full circle. After all, he's grown old and weary and now we see his protege inherit his mantle and take on some of that 007 swagger. She doesn't even need to say her name, just turn and look. It be pretty cool.....

    Basically, they are lying about the extent of the Valhalla's role. So it must have something to do with the end?

    Cc: @antovolk

    No she's definitely sat in the DBS in that shot: the Valhalla's interior is different.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    edited April 2020 Posts: 1,755
    That shot of Nomi, she is sitting in the DBS. I’m guessing that’s probably when she picks up Bond on the side of the road on the way to the military base.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,582
    Stark wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Cary also put to rest the idea that they're editing/re-shooting. He said something like that is costly-- yes, even on a Bond film. Secondly he discussed any project can be tinkered with, to what end. He said that NTTD is perfect as is, it's a great film, and it was his hope that others will feel the same.

    Exactly. Fukunaga himself basically shut down all that nonsense regarding potential reshoot/trimming/further polishing: NTTD is locked, 100% finished and the director is 100% happy with it.

    The movie is great as it is.

    K1CLJVb.jpg

    They have a director like Fukunaga and they don't give him time to perfect the film... Shameful. I imagine he wants to improve some special effects but that costs too much money.

    Here is my take:

    Yes, he could always tweek things here and there, but that is what creative folk tend to do, much to their detriment. He's admitting that he could continue tinkering (for months and years and years) but at some point you have to say, "It's done." He reached that point and has stepped aside. Plus, is it worth it? Is it worth all of the tome, money, and effort to make little changes that ultimately would not be adding much value to the film?
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,546
    TripAces wrote: »
    Stark wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Cary also put to rest the idea that they're editing/re-shooting. He said something like that is costly-- yes, even on a Bond film. Secondly he discussed any project can be tinkered with, to what end. He said that NTTD is perfect as is, it's a great film, and it was his hope that others will feel the same.

    Exactly. Fukunaga himself basically shut down all that nonsense regarding potential reshoot/trimming/further polishing: NTTD is locked, 100% finished and the director is 100% happy with it.

    The movie is great as it is.

    K1CLJVb.jpg

    They have a director like Fukunaga and they don't give him time to perfect the film... Shameful. I imagine he wants to improve some special effects but that costs too much money.

    Here is my take:

    Yes, he could always tweek things here and there, but that is what creative folk tend to do, much to their detriment. He's admitting that he could continue tinkering (for months and years and years) but at some point you have to say, "It's done." He reached that point and has stepped aside. Plus, is it worth it? Is it worth all of the tome, money, and effort to make little changes that ultimately would not be adding much value to the film?

    I think this is 100% spot on.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,763
    Yeah, why should Cary dwell on 25 when he can be working on BOND 26.
  • Posts: 490
    Yeah, why should Cary dwell on 25 when he can be working on BOND 26.

    This guy gets it.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    Red_Snow wrote: »


    The Robb Report confirms that the Valhalla will make a cameo appearance in NTTD.

    The Valhalla story intrigues me......it clearly plays a bigger role than people have hinted in these articles. Esquire stated that the Valhalla will only be seen in Q's workshop. However, we saw it in Scotland.

    16574808-0-image-a-20_1564250491598.jpg
    filming-in-the-scottish-highlands-for-the-bond-25-film-the-car-is-an-aston-martin-valhalla-W5TE94.jpg

    Here's my take........Bond either dies or retires in NTTD, the last scene of the film will be Nomi on a mission in the Valhalla and perhaps she introduces herself in the last scene? Akin to the end of CR? I think we may have even seen a moment in a TV spot...

    EP2Mk-ZXkAAaV_l?format=jpg&name=large
    casino-royale-movie-screencaps.com-16640.jpg?strip=all

    What better way for the Craig-era to come full circle. After all, he's grown old and weary and now we see his protege inherit his mantle and take on some of that 007 swagger. She doesn't even need to say her name, just turn and look. It be pretty cool.....

    Basically, they are lying about the extent of the Valhalla's role. So it must have something to do with the end?

    Valhalla will only be seen parked somewhere. True that they filmed it in Scotland but later on it didn't fit in in the story. I think it was prod designer Mark Tildesley who said that in one of the car magazine interviews.

    On the subject of Nomi: she's just a character in this movie. Won't return in Bond 26.

    How NTTD ends is anybody's guess.. Either way, James Bond will return in Bond 26, played by new male actor: welsh or scottish or british or irish
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    I like Cary, and NTTD looks Good....but fear of Repetition, is what concerns me....maybe Cary should learn from Martin Campbell, by not returning for a Successive Bond film like Mendes.
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    Love Cary, but would very much prefer it if they brought in Denis Villeneuve for Bond26.
    I say, keep Mark Tildesley, keep Zimmer, find a new sartorial/costume designer, and bring back Roger Deakins. Then, for Bond27, bring back the Fukunaga/Sandgren combo.

    And...probably none of that will ever happen :(
  • Posts: 490
    Univex wrote: »
    Love Cary, but would very much prefer it if they brought in Denis Villeneuve for Bond26.
    I say, keep Mark Tildesley, keep Zimmer, find a new sartorial/costume designer, and bring back Roger Deakins. Then, for Bond27, bring back the Fukunaga/Sandgren combo.

    And...probably none of that will ever happen :(

    Oh man Villeneuve, Deakins, and Zimmer would be incredible. All three were on Blade Runner right?

    Wasn't Villeneuve approached for this film and he turned it down to focus on Dune? Now that Dune is in the can maybe he'd reconsider for B26 if they asked him again.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,157
    ertert wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Love Cary, but would very much prefer it if they brought in Denis Villeneuve for Bond26.
    I say, keep Mark Tildesley, keep Zimmer, find a new sartorial/costume designer, and bring back Roger Deakins. Then, for Bond27, bring back the Fukunaga/Sandgren combo.

    And...probably none of that will ever happen :(

    Oh man Villeneuve, Deakins, and Zimmer would be incredible. All three were on Blade Runner right?

    Wasn't Villeneuve approached for this film and he turned it down to focus on Dune? Now that Dune is in the can maybe he'd reconsider for B26 if they asked him again.

    I would love to see Villeneuve give it a try. But first, I want to see what Cary pulled off and perhaps, just perhaps, he might want to be back next time.

    Personally, I think the "final film" in any actor's tenure is a difficult one. The actor has pretty much lost his freshness, the search for the next one has all but begun and audiences feel the energy leaking out. Not always, of course. With DAD, we weren't fully aware of the possibility that Brosnan would walk after that one. But with NTTD, it's been broadcast, everywhere, that this is Craig's final one, even if it should turn out that it's not true. It has both the attraction of a "swan song" and the problem of "why bother?" If Cary pulls it off, I will praise him forever.
  • Posts: 4,408
    I think there's no harm in Eon getting Krysty Wilson-Cairns to take a stab as the new staff-writer at Eon. They have worked with Purvis and Wade for 21 years. Time to move one.....get Wilson-Cairns to do the first draft. Then give it to someone fancy like Scott Z Burns or Phoebe Waller-Bridge to jazz up.

    Krysty Wilson-Cairns has the credentials for a good in-house writer. She's worked on 1917 with Mendes and Edgar Wright's new film. I'd imagine she's not too much of n 'artist' to not listen to Eon.

    I wouldn't be surprised if she did get involved.......
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,603
    TripAces wrote: »
    Stark wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Cary also put to rest the idea that they're editing/re-shooting. He said something like that is costly-- yes, even on a Bond film. Secondly he discussed any project can be tinkered with, to what end. He said that NTTD is perfect as is, it's a great film, and it was his hope that others will feel the same.

    Exactly. Fukunaga himself basically shut down all that nonsense regarding potential reshoot/trimming/further polishing: NTTD is locked, 100% finished and the director is 100% happy with it.

    The movie is great as it is.

    K1CLJVb.jpg

    They have a director like Fukunaga and they don't give him time to perfect the film... Shameful. I imagine he wants to improve some special effects but that costs too much money.

    Here is my take:

    Yes, he could always tweek things here and there, but that is what creative folk tend to do, much to their detriment. He's admitting that he could continue tinkering (for months and years and years) but at some point you have to say, "It's done." He reached that point and has stepped aside. Plus, is it worth it? Is it worth all of the tome, money, and effort to make little changes that ultimately would not be adding much value to the film?

    Yes, don’t be George Lucas and change things. It most often doesn’t work.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Stark wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Cary also put to rest the idea that they're editing/re-shooting. He said something like that is costly-- yes, even on a Bond film. Secondly he discussed any project can be tinkered with, to what end. He said that NTTD is perfect as is, it's a great film, and it was his hope that others will feel the same.

    Exactly. Fukunaga himself basically shut down all that nonsense regarding potential reshoot/trimming/further polishing: NTTD is locked, 100% finished and the director is 100% happy with it.

    The movie is great as it is.

    K1CLJVb.jpg

    They have a director like Fukunaga and they don't give him time to perfect the film... Shameful. I imagine he wants to improve some special effects but that costs too much money.

    You’re totally misinterpreting his words. Creative people can work on their projects endlessly, because they will always find something to change or something to improve. It’s inherent in their nature. For me, as an architect, is basically the same. But this is not how things work. He finished his film on schedule, he was happy with it and he was ready to share it with the audiences. There’s nothing shameful. Nothing.
  • Posts: 490
    I just finished re-watching S1 of True Detective and my excitement levels for NTTD couldn't be higher. Cary created such a suspenseful and tense atmosphere in the scenes of that show, you always felt like there was danger on the horizon.

    I don't even need to mention THAT one sequence that True Detective is famous for, which still blows my mind to this day. It's in the slower scenes with Rust and Marty just driving around that you can feel this palpable tension in the air.

    Cary did a fantastic job with that show and if that sort of vibe runs through NTTD we'll have a very memorable film to experience.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited April 2020 Posts: 3,497
    Stark wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Cary also put to rest the idea that they're editing/re-shooting. He said something like that is costly-- yes, even on a Bond film. Secondly he discussed any project can be tinkered with, to what end. He said that NTTD is perfect as is, it's a great film, and it was his hope that others will feel the same.

    Exactly. Fukunaga himself basically shut down all that nonsense regarding potential reshoot/trimming/further polishing: NTTD is locked, 100% finished and the director is 100% happy with it.

    The movie is great as it is.

    K1CLJVb.jpg

    They have a director like Fukunaga and they don't give him time to perfect the film... Shameful. I imagine he wants to improve some special effects but that costs too much money.

    What are you talking about, the movie is finished. 8-|
  • edited April 2020 Posts: 4,408
    ertert wrote: »
    I just finished re-watching S1 of True Detective and my excitement levels for NTTD couldn't be higher. Cary created such a suspenseful and tense atmosphere in the scenes of that show, you always felt like there was danger on the horizon.

    I don't even need to mention THAT one sequence that True Detective is famous for, which still blows my mind to this day. It's in the slower scenes with Rust and Marty just driving around that you can feel this palpable tension in the air.

    Cary did a fantastic job with that show and if that sort of vibe runs through NTTD we'll have a very memorable film to experience.

    Agreed.

    I remember watching that show in 2014 and just being totally in awe of it. I knew the writing was good even if a bit overwrought, but I was very intrigued by the director (whose name kept showing up on every episode). It had a moody atmosphere and southern-gothic aesthetic that I loved.

    That 'oner' you speak of had such impact when I first saw it. Mainly as I wasn't expecting it at all. I was totally floored by it when it happened. I remember talking about it to everyone I met. I was obsessed with this show. I haven't watched the show since 2014, so should give it a re-watch!!!

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    I championed CJF ever since as a Bond director. I was more happy he got the job than Danny Boyle and Sam Mendes combined.
    matt_u wrote: »
    Stark wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Cary also put to rest the idea that they're editing/re-shooting. He said something like that is costly-- yes, even on a Bond film. Secondly he discussed any project can be tinkered with, to what end. He said that NTTD is perfect as is, it's a great film, and it was his hope that others will feel the same.

    Exactly. Fukunaga himself basically shut down all that nonsense regarding potential reshoot/trimming/further polishing: NTTD is locked, 100% finished and the director is 100% happy with it.

    The movie is great as it is.

    K1CLJVb.jpg

    They have a director like Fukunaga and they don't give him time to perfect the film... Shameful. I imagine he wants to improve some special effects but that costs too much money.

    You’re totally misinterpreting his words. Creative people can work on their projects endlessly, because they will always find something to change or something to improve. It’s inherent in their nature. For me, as an architect, is basically the same. But this is not how things work. He finished his film on schedule, he was happy with it and he was ready to share it with the audiences. There’s nothing shameful. Nothing.

    It's the same with anything beyond the creative. I remember when I did my dissertation for my undergrad, I could have worked on that thing for years and it would never have been finished. You just have to 'put your pen' down at some point........

    I've had this experience on every project or exam I've ever done.
  • Posts: 1,490
    matt_u wrote: »
    Stark wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Cary also put to rest the idea that they're editing/re-shooting. He said something like that is costly-- yes, even on a Bond film. Secondly he discussed any project can be tinkered with, to what end. He said that NTTD is perfect as is, it's a great film, and it was his hope that others will feel the same.

    Exactly. Fukunaga himself basically shut down all that nonsense regarding potential reshoot/trimming/further polishing: NTTD is locked, 100% finished and the director is 100% happy with it.

    The movie is great as it is.

    K1CLJVb.jpg

    They have a director like Fukunaga and they don't give him time to perfect the film... Shameful. I imagine he wants to improve some special effects but that costs too much money.

    You’re totally misinterpreting his words. Creative people can work on their projects endlessly, because they will always find something to change or something to improve. It’s inherent in their nature. For me, as an architect, is basically the same. But this is not how things work. He finished his film on schedule, he was happy with it and he was ready to share it with the audiences. There’s nothing shameful. Nothing.

    Well said. In fact too much time and tinkering can actually harm a production/film. I saw that happen several times when I worked in the cutting rooms; good films ruined because they were overworked. Filmmakers, even very experienced ones, can get too familiar with the material and, assuming the audience will understand, start to tighten scenes up too much, or delete scenes entirely, cutting or reducing vital details until the story (and characters) loses coherence and the film also loses air to breathe.
  • HeinsenbergHeinsenberg France
    edited April 2020 Posts: 48
    While listening to a French podcast (in the presence of a visual effects technician who worked on the movie), I had confirmation that the Aston Martin Valhalla will be replaced by the Superlegerra in the film. The scene was filmed with the Valhalla but the producers didn't like the design of the car. This was done in postproduction, a CGI Superlegerra was added digitally. It would be on the sequence seen in the trailer where Nomi stops next to Bond.
  • Posts: 4,408
    While listening to a French podcast (in the presence of a visual effects technician who worked on the movie), I had confirmation that the Aston Martin Valhalla will be replaced by the Superlegerra in the film. The scene was filmed with the Valhalla but the producers didn't like the design of the car. This was done in postproduction, a CGI Superlegerra was added digitally. It would be on the sequence seen in the trailer where Nomi stops next to Bond.

    Really?

    I can imagine that they had a change of heart about the Valhalla. However, I can't imagine that they changed their minds that late in the process. Plus the way the light hits the car is very impressive. Almost too impressive to be CGI - plus as someone pointed out before the interior is a DBS Superlegerra below......

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    Could they not have just ditched the Valhalla after trying some camera tests with it?
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    While listening to a French podcast (in the presence of a visual effects technician who worked on the movie), I had confirmation that the Aston Martin Valhalla will be replaced by the Superlegerra in the film. The scene was filmed with the Valhalla but the producers didn't like the design of the car. This was done in postproduction, a CGI Superlegerra was added digitally. It would be on the sequence seen in the trailer where Nomi stops next to Bond.

    That's absolutely NOT a CGI car.
  • HeinsenbergHeinsenberg France
    Posts: 48
    These are called "invisible" visual effects. For French speakers, I advise you to go listen to the last issue of the podcast "Parlons Péloches". It's available on Spotify. It also says that the production imposed minor changes to the film during the postponement, contrary to what Cary Fukunaga said.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    These are called "invisible" visual effects. For French speakers, I advise you to go listen to the last issue of the podcast "Parlons Péloches". It's available on Spotify. It also says that the production imposed minor changes to the film during the postponement, contrary to what Cary Fukunaga said.

    Lol ok.
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