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  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    OOWolf wrote: »
    I've been curious for a while, to ask others on this blog, about the potential of the film involving a virus. Do you think after all of this uncertainty and uneasiness, people might be put off by this being a potential part of the plot? Seems the way the future is going, a lot of films have hit close to home, and might disinterest or put off viewers.

    It certainly hasn't put people off watching Contagion.

    Exactly!
  • 00Dalton700Dalton7 Portsmouth
    edited May 2020 Posts: 78
    If it’s been said before I’m sorry. But I’m fairly certain Safin’s base is going to be the film version of the Castle of Death from YOLT novel. Especially seeing the twitter account showing that island.

    Bond and Nomi get there by air/sea as there is no way to get to it otherwise. Kind of like Bond and Kissy going there by sea to climb the mountain.

    Judging from all the masks, Safin’s wardrobe and what looks like a model of the building the bases is hiding under.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESMXFfqXYAYh52M.jpg

    EDIT. The one thing I wonder about is will we only see the exterior building from the air briefly? Or will Bond escape it in similar fashion to the book?

    Could Bond and Maddy in the water be an epilogue with him presumed dead?
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,546
    Would love to see Safin as the modern day death collector. Hope your intuitions are correct.
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    Would love to see Safin as the modern day death collector. Hope your intuitions are correct.

    There's the whole Japanese thing in there with his character too!
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited May 2020 Posts: 4,509
    Extra title song leaked ;)


    Release Me

    by Hooverphonic
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited May 2020 Posts: 4,582
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    OOWolf wrote: »
    I've been curious for a while, to ask others on this blog, about the potential of the film involving a virus. Do you think after all of this uncertainty and uneasiness, people might be put off by this being a potential part of the plot? Seems the way the future is going, a lot of films have hit close to home, and might disinterest or put off viewers.

    It certainly hasn't put people off watching Contagion.

    Exactly!

    Ans didn't Burns come in to work on the NTTD script a little? Could it have been some minor tweaks, based on how well-researched Contagion was?
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    00Dalton7 wrote: »
    If it’s been said before I’m sorry. But I’m fairly certain Safin’s base is going to be the film version of the Castle of Death from YOLT novel. Especially seeing the twitter account showing that island.

    Bond and Nomi get there by air/sea as there is no way to get to it otherwise. Kind of like Bond and Kissy going there by sea to climb the mountain.

    Judging from all the masks, Safin’s wardrobe and what looks like a model of the building the bases is hiding under.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESMXFfqXYAYh52M.jpg

    EDIT. The one thing I wonder about is will we only see the exterior building from the air briefly? Or will Bond escape it in similar fashion to the book?

    Could Bond and Maddy in the water be an epilogue with him presumed dead?

    @00Dalton7 In an norwegian article, production designer Mark Tildesley said (before being hushed by PR-people) that Safins lair/bunker was an abandoned diamond mine, with seems to me be a key point in the plot otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned it, right?

    Why use the island as an exterior? (asking myself now). Are there really diamond mines out there located on islands?
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    00Dalton7 wrote: »
    If it’s been said before I’m sorry. But I’m fairly certain Safin’s base is going to be the film version of the Castle of Death from YOLT novel. Especially seeing the twitter account showing that island.

    Bond and Nomi get there by air/sea as there is no way to get to it otherwise. Kind of like Bond and Kissy going there by sea to climb the mountain.

    Judging from all the masks, Safin’s wardrobe and what looks like a model of the building the bases is hiding under.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESMXFfqXYAYh52M.jpg

    EDIT. The one thing I wonder about is will we only see the exterior building from the air briefly? Or will Bond escape it in similar fashion to the book?

    Could Bond and Maddy in the water be an epilogue with him presumed dead?

    It's all a very fair theory... we don't know enough to rule it out!

    My own theory is that Safin's island is meant to be somewhere in the Kuril islands... at least that would explain the Japanese influences. And ending with an amnesiac Bond in Madeleine's arms would be a very fitting ending to the Craig era.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Sorry if this has already been posted a while but just found some stuff I think I must've missed... I didn't know there was gonna be a documentary and I haven't seen this photo before :)



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  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Sorry if this has already been posted a while but just found some stuff I think I must've missed... I didn't know there was gonna be a documentary and I haven't seen this photo before :)



    blar8ED.jpg

    That angle is new. Where did you find that? Maybe we can find more hidden stills
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,275
    Contraband wrote: »
    00Dalton7 wrote: »
    If it’s been said before I’m sorry. But I’m fairly certain Safin’s base is going to be the film version of the Castle of Death from YOLT novel. Especially seeing the twitter account showing that island.

    Bond and Nomi get there by air/sea as there is no way to get to it otherwise. Kind of like Bond and Kissy going there by sea to climb the mountain.

    Judging from all the masks, Safin’s wardrobe and what looks like a model of the building the bases is hiding under.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESMXFfqXYAYh52M.jpg

    EDIT. The one thing I wonder about is will we only see the exterior building from the air briefly? Or will Bond escape it in similar fashion to the book?

    Could Bond and Maddy in the water be an epilogue with him presumed dead?

    @00Dalton7 In an norwegian article, production designer Mark Tildesley said (before being hushed by PR-people) that Safins lair/bunker was an abandoned diamond mine, with seems to me be a key point in the plot otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned it, right?

    Why use the island as an exterior? (asking myself now). Are there really diamond mines out there located on islands?

    After DAD, I'd rather the Eon series never mention diamonds again!
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,970
    Contraband wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Sorry if this has already been posted a while but just found some stuff I think I must've missed... I didn't know there was gonna be a documentary and I haven't seen this photo before :)



    blar8ED.jpg

    That angle is new. Where did you find that? Maybe we can find more hidden stills
    Was just browsing through this website.
    https://www.commander007.net/2020/nttd-le-point-sur-la-promotion-8/
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited May 2020 Posts: 3,022
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  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    Contraband wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Sorry if this has already been posted a while but just found some stuff I think I must've missed... I didn't know there was gonna be a documentary and I haven't seen this photo before :)



    blar8ED.jpg

    That angle is new. Where did you find that? Maybe we can find more hidden stills
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Sorry if this has already been posted a while but just found some stuff I think I must've missed... I didn't know there was gonna be a documentary and I haven't seen this photo before :)



    blar8ED.jpg

    My bad. Not new at all. I have it in my archive
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Sorry if this has already been posted a while but just found some stuff I think I must've missed... I didn't know there was gonna be a documentary and I haven't seen this photo before :)



    blar8ED.jpg

    That angle is new. Where did you find that? Maybe we can find more hidden stills
    Was just browsing through this website.
    https://www.commander007.net/2020/nttd-le-point-sur-la-promotion-8/

    Ak ok.
  • Posts: 2,436
    Contraband wrote: »
    00Dalton7 wrote: »
    If it’s been said before I’m sorry. But I’m fairly certain Safin’s base is going to be the film version of the Castle of Death from YOLT novel. Especially seeing the twitter account showing that island.

    Bond and Nomi get there by air/sea as there is no way to get to it otherwise. Kind of like Bond and Kissy going there by sea to climb the mountain.

    Judging from all the masks, Safin’s wardrobe and what looks like a model of the building the bases is hiding under.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESMXFfqXYAYh52M.jpg

    EDIT. The one thing I wonder about is will we only see the exterior building from the air briefly? Or will Bond escape it in similar fashion to the book?

    Could Bond and Maddy in the water be an epilogue with him presumed dead?

    @00Dalton7 In an norwegian article, production designer Mark Tildesley said (before being hushed by PR-people) that Safins lair/bunker was an abandoned diamond mine, with seems to me be a key point in the plot otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned it, right?

    Why use the island as an exterior? (asking myself now). Are there really diamond mines out there located on islands?

    Diamond mine? The parallels with Die Another Day keep stacking up!
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    Contraband wrote: »
    00Dalton7 wrote: »
    If it’s been said before I’m sorry. But I’m fairly certain Safin’s base is going to be the film version of the Castle of Death from YOLT novel. Especially seeing the twitter account showing that island.

    Bond and Nomi get there by air/sea as there is no way to get to it otherwise. Kind of like Bond and Kissy going there by sea to climb the mountain.

    Judging from all the masks, Safin’s wardrobe and what looks like a model of the building the bases is hiding under.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESMXFfqXYAYh52M.jpg

    EDIT. The one thing I wonder about is will we only see the exterior building from the air briefly? Or will Bond escape it in similar fashion to the book?

    Could Bond and Maddy in the water be an epilogue with him presumed dead?

    @00Dalton7 In an norwegian article, production designer Mark Tildesley said (before being hushed by PR-people) that Safins lair/bunker was an abandoned diamond mine, with seems to me be a key point in the plot otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned it, right?

    Why use the island as an exterior? (asking myself now). Are there really diamond mines out there located on islands?

    Diamond mine? The parallels with Die Another Day keep stacking up!

    Interview was in the norwegian newspaper VG. I have it somewhere in the archive
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    One thing am loving so far about NTTD is, there seem to be spectacle in and around the film. Apart from QoS & SF, CR & SP saved the spectacular just for the PTS & early parts of the film, although CR was Cool like that, Coz the plot was engaging.

    The Norway chase in NTTD looks very grand, it could easily pass for a PTS, when it isn't. I think that's something the older Bond films did very well, Spectacle all through....whether the plot was engaging or not. Although, NTTD even with the strong-looking plot, has many spectacular moments, which is a good thing.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    My own theory is that Safin's island is meant to be somewhere in the Kuril islands... at least that would explain the Japanese influences.

    Yep that has always been my idea as well.

    No masks, kimonos and bonsai, the architecture of the base influenced by arguably the greatest modern japanese architect (Ando) vs. all the Russian connections like the car plates, the villain's name and obviously the signs on the liar's walls being in Russian.

    Plus, we know Bond and Nomi enter the base by sea, we know that they shot in the rocky volcanic shores of Maratea, Italy, scenes from the end of the final showdown and last but not least the Faroe look like a perfect place for doubling some Kuril island...

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    It looks very bombastic.
  • silva13silva13 Australia
    Posts: 198
    I have a crazy fan theory but I thought I would post it and gather thoughts!
    Swanns secret could be that she was part of the vesper lynd interogation. That would destroy Bond, and she is a psychologist
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
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    silva13 wrote: »
    I have a crazy fan theory but I thought I would post it and gather thoughts!
    Swanns secret could be that she was part of the vesper lynd interogation. That would destroy Bond, and she is a psychologist
    An interesting theory but I don't think it would work because in 2006, Madeleine would've only been 20/21.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 575
    Denbigh wrote: »
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    silva13 wrote: »
    I have a crazy fan theory but I thought I would post it and gather thoughts!
    Swanns secret could be that she was part of the vesper lynd interogation. That would destroy Bond, and she is a psychologist
    An interesting theory but I don't think it would work because in 2006, Madeleine would've only been 20/21.

    That would be really interesting. I think Denbigh makes a good point the timelines dont make sense but that doesnt seem to be a huge issue for EON if the emotional pay off is big enough. Would also make the scene with Oberhauser talking about Bonds experiences of loss more meaningful in Spectre.
  • silva13silva13 Australia
    Posts: 198
    @Bentley007 I think it would elevate Spectre quite alot. The more I think about it, the more it feels right 🤣
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited May 2020 Posts: 4,582
    Denbigh wrote: »
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    silva13 wrote: »
    I have a crazy fan theory but I thought I would post it and gather thoughts!
    Swanns secret could be that she was part of the vesper lynd interogation. That would destroy Bond, and she is a psychologist
    An interesting theory but I don't think it would work because in 2006, Madeleine would've only been 20/21.

    Do we know how old Madeleine is? By the time Bond met her (2015), she had already gone through all of her medical training and had spent time with Médecins Sans Frontières. After that, she opened the clinic, and had probably been at that for some time. Given that it can take 15 years of education to get licensed and then adding her practice on top of that, she was likely 35 years old (maybe even older) when she met Bond. This means she was perhaps 26 at the time of Vesper's death. However, she still would have been in medical school in 2006.

    Let's not forget, though, that Madeliene seemingly had no knowledge of the interrogation room at Le Americain.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited May 2020 Posts: 13,763
    Those events happened in Bond Time.
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    Well in 6 years Bond went from being a rookie double 0 to an aged agent being told to leave it to men who are younger than him! Time is elastic in the world of Bond!
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    Well in 6 years Bond went from being a rookie double 0 to an aged agent being told to leave it to men who are younger than him! Time is elastic in the world of Bond!

    Seems reasonable to me. We have to imagine there have been many missions in his world that we haven’t seen on a big screen. Thus making him a seasoned agent.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited May 2020 Posts: 13,763
    Yes, there are no hard rules. I see the humor in going from green to out of date, sure.

    But "each" film Bond has his Naval military experience, plus some tenure at MI6 before being considered for a double-O position. Which has its own special requirements and initiation. It's an important point that whatever experience is brought with a person, they must step up their game tremendously.

    Calling Craig Bond in Casino Royale a rookie is kind of silly. Though he's new as 007, yes. He's moving through what Fleming described more briefly as the first two kills, then an important mission. And it's not automatically wrong to have the character-defining crystallization of the character (Vesper) more toward the beginning of his 00 status. It probably makes more sense in this case.

    It's also a Bond staple that he's at odds with the bureaucrats. Set up to be out of date automatically and in question.

    Some differences from the novel, sure. Just good story-telling for the film and the franchise.
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