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I understand your frustration...but the 'Bond brand' works.
They get the interest and attention without even having to try that hard and they maintain their 'exclusivity' factor. People buy into that brand, hence why when Bond comes out in November, every Xmas party under the sun has a 'Bond themed' event as it's an aspirational brand that people get to indulge in.
TGWTDT had an amazing marketing brand - but the box office numbers speak for themselves.
If anything from the Boyle departure, PWB hiring, Lashana being 007, Billie Eilish doing the theme, and the corona delay. This film has been one of the most discussed Bond films for better or worse.
The amount of ink spilled for NTTD has been huge compared to other Bond's. You just can't pay for that kinda exposure for most films.
I mean when Edgar Wright left Ant-Man, or Colin Trevorrow left Star Wars, it didn't make the national front pages. Did it? Bond has a huge footprint and they don't have to pander.
This topic kind of goes hand in hand with what is said above about the hardcore fan group - the ones who see beyond the superficiality and talk about all the things other than the obvious ones that make Bond a national treasure.
It would be nice to see a bigger deal made out of a trailer premiere admittedly. The Jamaica thing last year was a half-hearted attempt at something like that, but they didn't really push it. It'd be great to see that done properly, online, for every film. It would allow Bond to be part of the "online reveal" culture without needing to be part of something like Comic-Con. It wouldn't require a huge change, either; the press conferences for the films before NTTD were built on the same idea, just a more basic approach.
How about the scene n.253? The are other scenes after the 253?
I only hope James Bond will survive again at the end.
Lol, the cannes crowd abhors Bond.
This is junk. Many of us became Bond fans as kids. If Bond doesn't appeal to kids it won't survive for long.
Just because we became Bond fans as kids doesn't mean it was aimed at kids. Indiana Jones is another that is not necessarily aimed at children, despite its adventure qualities, that many became a fan of when they were small. I also became a fan of Terminator, Alien, Die Hard etc as a kid, so it means little.
It also seems that, unlike Batman but more like Holmes, Bond is intimately entwined in the British national identity. It may have been author Jeremy Black that put forward that James Bond and Princess Diana are the biggest influences on the British national character in the second half of the 20th century. This seems like a unique feature to Bond. It would almost seem unseemly for Bond to pander in the way that most superhero films do. That being said, there is a lot of potential left on the table for the Bond brand to increase or widen its appeal.
I think we've reached the point in film history where cinematic universes (aside from the strongest) will start to die out, because everyone's trying it now with little effect. I know I'm not in the minority when I say that the franchise needs to go back to the one-off adventures. Keep minimal continuity, don't get lost in its ambition, and don't do this "Bond's REAL true love" thing for another few decades.
This film has quite transparently just been an unbelievably difficult haul to get to the screen, and they've battled so hard at every step to get it done. The time pressure was intense, which is to say nothing of the creative and logistical challenges.
It feels like Cary, the producers, the writers, the cast and the crew all collectively pulled off miracles to actually hit the April 2020 date. And did it without this information leaking (at least as of March), which is no small feat in and of itself.
It just seems like no matter how hard and cleverly they've worked to get this thing done, there's no respite from the setbacks. I hope the film itself is widely well-received when we finally see it, because they deserve it.
And we do truly seem to have crossed a line here, with respect to the major outlet which published this so openly in a headline. There must be bad blood behind the scenes somewhere, to just so brazenly and cravenly ruin the plot of a major upcoming film like that. I mean...it seems unprecedented? Can you imagine a January 2019 headline screaming...
or a July 2019 one proclaiming...
"Brave" new world, indeed.
I wonder, couldn’t this be because it’s real or fake? Does it being removed from eBay confirm either way?
Removed or just sold already?
Quite how someone dares to sell call sheets for an unreleased film I do not know. The first thing you do when you start a job is sign an NDA. By the way, nothing to do with this thread but quite how that person has got hold of several crew jackets and caps I do not know (they've sold several recently). Also I know for sure that the caps were dark blue and not black. Possibly printing them themselves to make money? I guess there's a chance the second unit caps were black but main unit ones were definitely navy blue.
Looking at it another way, Barbara Broccoli and Michael G Wilson have overseen 25 years of unbroken box office gold. As a matter of circumstance, NTTD could also be the biggest grossing film of the year. It was already on course to put up a good fight for that spot even before COVID-19.
I heard from someone here that Gregg Wilson isn't the most resourceful producer. Though I have zero evidence to back this up just forum gossip. He does seem a bit meek and mealy-mouthed.
There's something about Barbara that just projects strength and confidence. I really don't think she needs a co-producer. I think the generally accepted truth these days is that Michael G. Wilson gets a credit and works on the film to some extents, but it's Barbara truly running the show. After all, MGW is 78.
I think Barbara's daughter is probably next in line to run the series eventually. She is a filmmaker and seems to have that same chutzpah as Barbara.
Personally.....I think Barbara does a Cubby and go solo.
I will keep the following in a spoiler tag:
Biggest grossing film of the year where though? UK? Almost certainly. US? Tough fight, no way. Other countries? 50/50 chances of being up there with the likes of Black Widow, Fast 9 etc. Most likely it would be just below. That's before COVID of course.
@talos7 I don't think so, since the film is done (by Fukunaga's admission) and rated (by the MPAA in the US) already. Maybe they cook something fresh up for the marketing but wouldn't count on them going back in there and unpacking things and spending $$$ to slot another song in . Will it be worth it?
Guessing EON & co went after him
BTW: I have every single call sheet he uploaded if anybody cares
Intriguing....
Also, I just hope that if you were one of those to read the call sheets, your complaints about the film following its release are not that there weren’t any surprises.
I was talking about WW. I think Bond would give BW and FF9 a run for their money Western Europe. Looking at the Box Office take for the last couple FF movies in US, NTTD certainly had a shot at out grossing FF9 in the US.
I’ll openly admit I’ve lost my patience waiting for this film after everything, so spoilers don’t bother me at this point. We still don’t even know for sure if it will release in November as scheduled. It is a pity that everything could have been kept secret if it had been able to make its third release date.
For those who want to stay unspoiled though, I wish everyone would respect that and put anything major in spoiler tags.
My feelings exactly, @FoxRox.
EDIT: I’m just very aware of how the blame of spoilers will quickly be turned on EON, when in reality, it’s because of the people who dig for it, or by the people reporting it so I just hope it’s taken into consideration when they see the film.
We all know how the reviews will say it lacked surprises after they read every call sheet.
completely in agreement. I'm fine with spoilers, but it doesn't mean everyone is, so out of respect use spoilers.