No Time to Die production thread

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  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    edited June 2020 Posts: 1,036
    Some good news! California has had some of the strictest distancing measures too.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-08/california-to-allow-movie-theaters-to-reopen-in-most-counties

    “ The new rules would limit the number of guests in a movie theater to 25% of theater capacity or a maximum of 100 attendees, whichever is lower.”
  • Posts: 151
    FoxRox wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    @AgentM72 -- well said!

    I will keep the following in a spoiler tag:
    These leaks sickened me and I assume that heads will roll since this won't be too hard to track down if this was a crew member-- hopefully they never work in the industry again. Everyone signs an NDA-- if they're caught, they're screwed. BUT... MORE IMPORTANTLY: my usual source has told me, yes, that was indeed a piss off, but supposedly, there is a bigger twist than that. My advice: from this point on, try and avoid any sources that want to spoil this for us. If you see a headline, do your best to move on from reading it. However, if this is true and there's an even bigger plot twist in this film, it just seems to be the Cary Fukunaga way: one twist leads to a bigger one, leads to a bigger one... For those looking forward to this film, I thought I should shine at least one positive ray onto this film!!

    Intriguing....
    Perhaps it is revealed after the child is thought to be Bond’s that it is in fact a clone child of Madeleine. Or, what if Mathilde is actually Madeleine and Safin’s child? A lot of ways it could go. I’m definitely thinking there is something to the cloning rumors, and I could easily imagine some kind of double twist with the child, like how in Blade Runner 2049 K was and then wasn’t the special child.

    The scene on the rocky beach is scene 243, the final scene, we believe, is 253, which is 7-8 minutes of film time between the two. Anything could happen in those minutes.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Some good news! California has had some of the strictest distancing measures too.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-08/california-to-allow-movie-theaters-to-reopen-in-most-counties

    “ The new rules would limit the number of guests in a movie theater to 25% of theater capacity or a maximum of 100 attendees, whichever is lower.”

    Ah, science!
  • Posts: 3
    Someone wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    @AgentM72 -- well said!

    I will keep the following in a spoiler tag:
    These leaks sickened me and I assume that heads will roll since this won't be too hard to track down if this was a crew member-- hopefully they never work in the industry again. Everyone signs an NDA-- if they're caught, they're screwed. BUT... MORE IMPORTANTLY: my usual source has told me, yes, that was indeed a piss off, but supposedly, there is a bigger twist than that. My advice: from this point on, try and avoid any sources that want to spoil this for us. If you see a headline, do your best to move on from reading it. However, if this is true and there's an even bigger plot twist in this film, it just seems to be the Cary Fukunaga way: one twist leads to a bigger one, leads to a bigger one... For those looking forward to this film, I thought I should shine at least one positive ray onto this film!!

    Intriguing....
    Perhaps it is revealed after the child is thought to be Bond’s that it is in fact a clone child of Madeleine. Or, what if Mathilde is actually Madeleine and Safin’s child? A lot of ways it could go. I’m definitely thinking there is something to the cloning rumors, and I could easily imagine some kind of double twist with the child, like how in Blade Runner 2049 K was and then wasn’t the special child.

    The scene on the rocky beach is scene 243, the final scene, we believe, is 253, which is 7-8 minutes of film time between the two. Anything could happen in those minutes.

    Are we sure scene 253 is the final scene? Or maybe there are other scenes?
    What do you think is going to happen to Bond after scene 253?
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,593
    Some good news! California has had some of the strictest distancing measures too.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-08/california-to-allow-movie-theaters-to-reopen-in-most-counties

    “ The new rules would limit the number of guests in a movie theater to 25% of theater capacity or a maximum of 100 attendees, whichever is lower.”

    This is positive for sure, but will people pay 4x ticket prices to see a film in a 25% theatre? And if not, does it make any financial sense to release a film in theatres in this climate?
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,545
    Some good news! California has had some of the strictest distancing measures too.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-08/california-to-allow-movie-theaters-to-reopen-in-most-counties

    “ The new rules would limit the number of guests in a movie theater to 25% of theater capacity or a maximum of 100 attendees, whichever is lower.”

    This is positive for sure, but will people pay 4x ticket prices to see a film in a 25% theatre? And if not, does it make any financial sense to release a film in theatres in this climate?

    In a recent zoom event for a film unit I am studying, guest speakers addressed the limit on audience capacity, and noted that the unknown question remains whether people will be willing to wait to book tickets if their preferred sessions are booked out, or will they just seek out "other means"? Are franchise fans willing to wait a few days or weeks to see the film, when they're normally there opening night?

    Furthermore, they pointed out that the limits will mostly impact peak periods - opening weekend (Fri-Sun), school and public holidays - otherwise off peak periods (Mon - Thur) regularly operate at 25-50% capacity.

  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited June 2020 Posts: 7,593
    That’s all fair, but I would think those peak periods are pretty important.
    I’d buy Bond tickets as early as I could, and if I wasn’t able to get a seat on opening night, I’d just wait; what other options would there be? Piracy I guess, but I wouldn’t go there for a bond film.
  • edited June 2020 Posts: 12,521
    That’s all fair, but I would think those peak periods are pretty important.
    I’d buy Bond tickets as early as I could, and if I wasn’t able to get a seat on opening night, I’d just wait; what other options would there be? Piracy I guess, but I wouldn’t go there for a bond film.

    Adding to that last sentence, I have a feeling piracy is going to increase with the coronavirus situation. The temptation of being able to watch new movies for free with the safety of being at home will get a lot of people I think. And even for those who don’t resort to piracy, I imagine there’ll be a decent number of people who will wait for renting and buying new movies coming to theaters. With the way things are, I can’t imagine NTTD grossing near as much as the last few Bond films if it manages to release in November.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,593
    I think you’re right
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited June 2020 Posts: 4,343
    Bear in mind that those big event movies make most of their fortune in those “peak moments”. SP in the first opening weekend in the UK made half of its overall gross in the country. Slightly more than 1/3 in the US.

    A 25%, even 50% capacity in the first two weekends would force NTTD’s box office run to heavily underperform and it’s a shame. I feel bad for the people behind the film.

    Without the pandemic the film would’ve made 1 billion. It was basically happening again. Next autumn if it will come out 600 millions seems like an optimistic guess, to me. Hope I’m wrong.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,593
    matt_u wrote: »
    Bear in mind that those big event movies make most of their fortune in those “peak moments”. SP in the first opening weekend in the UK made half of its overall gross in the country. Slightly more than 1/3 in the US.

    A 25%, even 50% capacity in the first two weekends would force NTTD’s box office run to heavily underperform and it’s a shame. I feel bad for the people behind the film.

    Without the pandemic the film would’ve made 1 billion. It was basically happening again. Next autumn if it will come out 600 millions seems like an optimistic guess, to me. Hope I’m wrong.

    Exactly my point.
  • ThinkOnYourSins0ThinkOnYourSins0 CLASSIFIED
    Posts: 4
    The full No Time To Die outline leaked online awhile ago.

    For anyone who wants to know the true plot (MAJOR SPOILERS) of NTTD.. You guys are way off the kid doesn’t belong to anyone... ;)
    Movie opens with Swann dreaming. She’s in Norway. Spectre attacks her home, her mother is kidnapped. She runs away and falls through the ice... Safin saves her life... For whatever reason Safin becomes infatuated with young Swann (creepy). Safin is a rogue agent of spectre in present day, his face disfigured from an acid attack.

    Safin convinces Swann to set Bond up to die, in order to save her mother’s life... We see in the trailer the short note “Forgive me”, Bond finds out Swann gave his location up.. They attempt to kill both Swann and Bond.. Turning on Swann. Bond sends Swann away. Then heads to Jamaica in hiding.

    The young girl is a clone of Swann. There are clones of Safin and Swann. Safin is attempting to create a stronger human being who can survive and live longer.

    Bond survives in the ending (faking his death) and living in Italy with Swann and the young Swann clone... Raising the kid like it’s their daughter.

    Nomi isn’t 007, her code name is never mentioned. She’s just known as a 00. Big twist is Blofeld has been behind everything and breaks out of prison.
  • Posts: 12,521
    The full No Time To Die outline leaked online awhile ago.

    For anyone who wants to know the true plot (MAJOR SPOILERS) of NTTD.. You guys are way off the kid doesn’t belong to anyone... ;)
    Movie opens with Swann dreaming. She’s in Norway. Spectre attacks her home, her mother is kidnapped. She runs away and falls through the ice... Safin saves her life... For whatever reason Safin becomes infatuated with young Swann (creepy). Safin is a rogue agent of spectre in present day, his face disfigured from an acid attack.

    Safin convinces Swann to set Bond up to die, in order to save her mother’s life... We see in the trailer the short note “Forgive me”, Bond finds out Swann gave his location up.. They attempt to kill both Swann and Bond.. Turning on Swann. Bond sends Swann away. Then heads to Jamaica in hiding.

    The young girl is a clone of Swann. There are clones of Safin and Swann. Safin is attempting to create a stronger human being who can survive and live longer.

    Bond survives in the ending (faking his death) and living in Italy with Swann and the young Swann clone... Raising the kid like it’s their daughter.

    Nomi isn’t 007, her code name is never mentioned. She’s just known as a 00. Big twist is Blofeld has been behind everything and breaks out of prison.

    Wow...
    Is this really all legit? If so, I like most of it. If it’s true Blofeld breaks out, I wonder does Bond actually confront him as well or is there a purposeful cliffhanger left?
  • ThinkOnYourSins0ThinkOnYourSins0 CLASSIFIED
    Posts: 4
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The full No Time To Die outline leaked online awhile ago.

    For anyone who wants to know the true plot (MAJOR SPOILERS) of NTTD.. You guys are way off the kid doesn’t belong to anyone... ;)
    Movie opens with Swann dreaming. She’s in Norway. Spectre attacks her home, her mother is kidnapped. She runs away and falls through the ice... Safin saves her life... For whatever reason Safin becomes infatuated with young Swann (creepy). Safin is a rogue agent of spectre in present day, his face disfigured from an acid attack.

    Safin convinces Swann to set Bond up to die, in order to save her mother’s life... We see in the trailer the short note “Forgive me”, Bond finds out Swann gave his location up.. They attempt to kill both Swann and Bond.. Turning on Swann. Bond sends Swann away. Then heads to Jamaica in hiding.

    The young girl is a clone of Swann. There are clones of Safin and Swann. Safin is attempting to create a stronger human being who can survive and live longer.

    Bond survives in the ending (faking his death) and living in Italy with Swann and the young Swann clone... Raising the kid like it’s their daughter.

    Nomi isn’t 007, her code name is never mentioned. She’s just known as a 00. Big twist is Blofeld has been behind everything and breaks out of prison.

    Wow...
    Is this really all legit? If so, I like most of it. If it’s true Blofeld breaks out, I wonder does Bond actually confront him as well or is there a purposeful cliffhanger left?

    Yes 110%!

    The heroes always win ;)

    I’m not sure how I feel about the Umm [spoilers] clones

    Looks like that crazy CASINOROYALE fellow was right??
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited June 2020 Posts: 7,593
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The full No Time To Die outline leaked online awhile ago.

    For anyone who wants to know the true plot (MAJOR SPOILERS) of NTTD.. You guys are way off the kid doesn’t belong to anyone... ;)
    Movie opens with Swann dreaming. She’s in Norway. Spectre attacks her home, her mother is kidnapped. She runs away and falls through the ice... Safin saves her life... For whatever reason Safin becomes infatuated with young Swann (creepy). Safin is a rogue agent of spectre in present day, his face disfigured from an acid attack.

    Safin convinces Swann to set Bond up to die, in order to save her mother’s life... We see in the trailer the short note “Forgive me”, Bond finds out Swann gave his location up.. They attempt to kill both Swann and Bond.. Turning on Swann. Bond sends Swann away. Then heads to Jamaica in hiding.

    The young girl is a clone of Swann. There are clones of Safin and Swann. Safin is attempting to create a stronger human being who can survive and live longer.

    Bond survives in the ending (faking his death) and living in Italy with Swann and the young Swann clone... Raising the kid like it’s their daughter.

    Nomi isn’t 007, her code name is never mentioned. She’s just known as a 00. Big twist is Blofeld has been behind everything and breaks out of prison.

    Wow...
    Is this really all legit? If so, I like most of it. If it’s true Blofeld breaks out, I wonder does Bond actually confront him as well or is there a purposeful cliffhanger left?

    Yes 110%!

    The heroes always win ;)

    I’m not sure how I feel about the Umm [spoilers] clones

    Looks like that crazy CASINOROYALE fellow was right??

    Oh god, lol, please no.

    I do hope everything you've said about the film is true, though.
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    Honestly I've really wanted NTTD to redeem Blofeld. I figured he was only going to get a few minutes of screen time, but seeing Bond have to deal with Safin AND Blofeld would be really intense. I've really warmed to the clone thing. I know it sounds too sci-fi for some, but it's a fascinating idea I think that could be done really well. Safin's creepy relationship with Madeleine should be absolutely fascinating.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,593
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Honestly I've really wanted NTTD to redeem Blofeld. I figured he was only going to get a few minutes of screen time, but seeing Bond have to deal with Safin AND Blofeld would be really intense. I've really warmed to the clone thing. I know it sounds too sci-fi for some, but it's a fascinating idea I think that could be done really well. Safin's creepy relationship with Madeleine should be absolutely fascinating.
    +1,000 about Blofeld.
  • ThinkOnYourSins0ThinkOnYourSins0 CLASSIFIED
    Posts: 4
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Honestly I've really wanted NTTD to redeem Blofeld. I figured he was only going to get a few minutes of screen time, but seeing Bond have to deal with Safin AND Blofeld would be really intense. I've really warmed to the clone thing. I know it sounds too sci-fi for some, but it's a fascinating idea I think that could be done really well. Safin's creepy relationship with Madeleine should be absolutely fascinating.


    It’s pretty out there... But I love the idea its very futuristic yet realistic in a way. Pretty sinister? A villain recreating himself? A better version of himself?
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    Don't remember how to use the spoiler tags.

    Anyway, I'm liking the idea for this film.
  • Posts: 12,521
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Honestly I've really wanted NTTD to redeem Blofeld. I figured he was only going to get a few minutes of screen time, but seeing Bond have to deal with Safin AND Blofeld would be really intense. I've really warmed to the clone thing. I know it sounds too sci-fi for some, but it's a fascinating idea I think that could be done really well. Safin's creepy relationship with Madeleine should be absolutely fascinating.


    It’s pretty out there... But I love the idea its very futuristic yet realistic in a way. Pretty sinister? A villain recreating himself? A better version of himself?
    Right. I loved that line in the one trailer Safin says to Bond "I've made you redundant." I figured immediately this had to be related to the cloning idea, where Safin could create new people to be superior. It is a little futuristic perhaps, but it's not necessarily impossible as technology keeps developing. Having a villain be able to discover and control this power is an awesome, terrifying idea. Frankly I'm stoked.
  • That leaked outline is from 4chan and has circulated for a while. There were a few details in there that had me doubt its legitimacy.
  • ThinkOnYourSins0ThinkOnYourSins0 CLASSIFIED
    Posts: 4
    That leaked outline is from 4chan and has circulated for a while. There were a few details in there that had me doubt its legitimacy.


    It’s legit. Young Swann and cloning were confirmed a year ago..

    Casting call sheets leaked out.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    Hear Roberto Schaefer talk about his cinematography work on #QuantumOfSolace and more. In this episode, we discuss the following topics with Roberto Schaefer:

    How Roberto got the job as Director of Photography on Quantum of Solace
    What a Director of Photography does
    How second units work in general and in Quantum of Solace
    The prep work involved for Quantum of Solace was
    How the British crews are different than American crews
    How Roberto got his start
    Roberto’s thoughts on working for Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson
    His role in the last shot of Finding Neverland
    The significance of the transitions in Stay
    The role of Digital in the making of Quantum of Solace
    And More …


    https://spymovienavigator.com/podcast/a-talk-with-quantum-of-solace-director-of-photography-roberto-schaefer-part-1/
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,589
    matt_u wrote: »
    Bear in mind that those big event movies make most of their fortune in those “peak moments”. SP in the first opening weekend in the UK made half of its overall gross in the country. Slightly more than 1/3 in the US.

    A 25%, even 50% capacity in the first two weekends would force NTTD’s box office run to heavily underperform and it’s a shame. I feel bad for the people behind the film.

    Without the pandemic the film would’ve made 1 billion. It was basically happening again. Next autumn if it will come out 600 millions seems like an optimistic guess, to me. Hope I’m wrong.

    Exactly my point.

    If theaters are operating at 50% capacity, this means that what we think of as a movie's "opening" is going to get spread out. At least, in theory. So the opening weekend might not have the numbers, but people will still be flocking to see the film, for the first time, 4-6 weeks later.

    NTTD has little competition from Thanksgiving to Christmas. I think it will be all right, in terms of BO numbers. It won;t be great, but I think it will remain respectable.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,917
    This Bond film could become a cause célèbre--a pressure release valve for the public to resume some normal activity. A collective return to theaters for moviegoers to get behind, especially if other big releases are still holding off for another day. Even more so if the plot itself involves threat of a pandemic. A chance to be a part of film history and Bond history in the making.

    Extended runs. More screens. Other possibilities. Needs to be a good film, though.

    No Craig Bond marathons in cinema I'm thinking, though.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,545
    TripAces wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Bear in mind that those big event movies make most of their fortune in those “peak moments”. SP in the first opening weekend in the UK made half of its overall gross in the country. Slightly more than 1/3 in the US.

    A 25%, even 50% capacity in the first two weekends would force NTTD’s box office run to heavily underperform and it’s a shame. I feel bad for the people behind the film.

    Without the pandemic the film would’ve made 1 billion. It was basically happening again. Next autumn if it will come out 600 millions seems like an optimistic guess, to me. Hope I’m wrong.

    Exactly my point.

    If theaters are operating at 50% capacity, this means that what we think of as a movie's "opening" is going to get spread out. At least, in theory. So the opening weekend might not have the numbers, but people will still be flocking to see the film, for the first time, 4-6 weeks later.

    NTTD has little competition from Thanksgiving to Christmas. I think it will be all right, in terms of BO numbers. It won;t be great, but I think it will remain respectable.

    It will be interesting to see what the "new" opening weekend will look like once the first big blockbusters are released in the coming months. As you said, the figures will likely trickle in, rather than doing the majority of business in the first week(s).

    If people decide to see the films weeks after its released, we could see a scenario similar to SP in North America, where they kept it in cinemas longer in the hopes of crossing $200 million milestone at the domestic box office.

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    This Bond film could become a cause célèbre--a pressure release valve for the public to resume some normal activity. A collective return to theaters for moviegoers to get behind, especially if other big releases are still holding off for another day. Even more so if the plot itself involves threat of a pandemic. A chance to be a part of film history and Bond history in the making.

    Extended runs. More screens. Other possibilities. Needs to be a good film, though.

    No Craig Bond marathons in cinema I'm thinking, though.

    Losing out on that Craig marathon really bummed me out; I bought tickets and everything. It was my opportunity to see CR in the theater. It's definitely unlikely to happen now with the way things are. Obviously in hindsight there was no way the film was able to be released in April, but had EON not pushed from February to April - or gotten into their situation with Danny Boyle - we would have had the film for some time now.

    That's a cool, optimistic way to look at it. I hope the film will be good and be a positive thing for everyone. I'd say there's a strong chance theaters will not be allowing full capacity by November, but what I can say that's positive is that - at least in my area - people have had no problem going anywhere since things reopened.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited June 2020 Posts: 3,022
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    Interviews with Rami Malek but not in english.

    1) Gentleman's Watch magazine (Netherlands). Translated version in the next post
    https://www.gentlemenswatch.com/2020/05/06/rami-malek-exclusief-interview-over-bond-mercury-en-angst

    2) Magazine article in Eva (Bulgaria). Translated version in the next post
    https://eva.bg/article/39660-Rami-Malek-formata-na-strakha-v-Bond-25

    3) Esquire magazine (Spain). Need translation from spanish
    https://www.pressreader.com/spain/esquire-spain/20200324/282849373070646

    Digital scans:

    4) Cinema magazine (Germany) Need translation from german
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    5) Premiere magazine (France). Need translation from french
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  • Posts: 151
    Dado96 wrote: »
    Someone wrote: »
    The scene on the rocky beach is scene 243, the final scene, we believe, is 253, which is 7-8 minutes of film time between the two. Anything could happen in those minutes.

    Are we sure scene 253 is the final scene? Or maybe there are other scenes?
    What do you think is going to happen to Bond after scene 253?

    If you look at the clapperboards made public for Craig' films and check where those scenes come in his movies the average duration per scene is 40-42 seconds. Scene 253 equates to 177 minutes, or 2 hours 57 minutes. We now know the film is 2h 45min so 253 must be the end. Clearly some scenes have been cut, 12 minutes worth for NTTD, which is not unknown for any film.

    I think Bond will have a YOLT like ending.
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