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Exactly. In fact, Tenet is still making money and has far outstripped Mulan's grosses by now. When all is said and done, the fact remains that a movie that was only partially released in a small percentage of theatres is still making hundreds of millions more than its VOD equivalents
Whether one likes it or not, the streaming or theatre debate is not about which is better for the viewer, but which one makes more money and Hollywood has yet to find a working alternative to a cinema release.
Same here.
I mean: how many times cinemas were doomed?
- when the silent era ended
- when colour came up
- when TV came up
- when VHS came up
- when video games came up
- when streaming came up
- ...
50 years from now people will still go to the cinema, and people will still say: this time it's really the end of theatres.
And you know why? Because people love to see a movie with a big crowd. Laugh together, cry together etc.
Nothing the best home cinema system can do.
I would be very happy if a simultaneous cinema and streaming release took place so people had a choice how they wanted to see NTTD. I love cinema but I'd be torn and might choose streaming.
Just kicking it down the road until the whole world can pack into cinemas again is a pipe dream. If that is the only strategy that is acceptable then we will be lucky to see this as the 60th anniversary film in '22.
Yes this is true. But every time that cinema was threatened it had to reinvent itself. Some common examples from the past would be the use of 70mm or the jump to anamorphic lenses. What will be the technology that convinces audiences there is a difference between their home tv and the theatre?
Couldn't agree more. As another self-proclaimed "film fan", I feel weird being in support of cinemas dying. I had a guy open his LAPTOP at the SPECTRE premiere. That put me over the edge. I've always been pro-streaming for NTTD, hope it happens soon.
They'd essentially need to be bought by the studios or streamers to become premium content showroom experiences for really high-value blockbusters, I suppose?
If it's not someone talking or being a general nuisance, then it's the staff members coming in to deliver food and take orders. The Alamo Drafthouse has some real backwards way of thinking when it comes to their rules and how they're enforced.
As others have mentioned, I prefer my home theater setup anymore - saves me money, I get to enjoy a film from the comfort of my couch - stoned, if I choose - all through the beauty of a 65" 4K TV. I don't have to go anywhere, I don't have to sit through ads and trailers I've already seen before, and these days, I don't have to risk any chance of COVID in doing so.
Having said that, I get the theatrical experience can be something special, especially during a real event film or blockbuster, but it's lost its luster for me lately. Considering how mediocre a lot of films have been the last few years to hit theaters, along with the faster turnaround time, I just can't justify going to the theaters more than once or twice a year, if that, whereas I used to be there several times per week as a teenager.
Wow!
Totally agree that it's easy to imagine theatres becoming niche. Would have a big effect on movies generally though.
@NickTwentyTwo I'm assuming higher attendence in the 40s is due to people going in for repeat viewings, whereas nowadays people will wait for dvd/streaming after the cinematic release. So, much like physical vs online retail, I don't think the future for retail and cinema is as dire as one would assume, because shopping centres and cinemas are still packed.
What I find curious is the massive difference in attendance between UK and USA/Europe
I agree, it probably isn't realistically as dire as I might have assumed, but it'll be interesting nevertheless to see how theatres react to everything happening now.
Cinema is certainly in for a challenge because of streaming, even if covid never happened
They do everything... more.
This is interesting. Let's not forget the fact that there were 2,4 billion people on the Earth in 1950. Today we are almost at 8 billion.
Another perspective:
"Universal announced last week that even after the lockdown ends, all of their films will now be released online at the same time as hitting the cinema. Great news for anyone who’s gotten used to staying at home – not so good for anyone who owns a cinema chain.
The idea of watching a film in the cinema has always been tied to nostalgia, and there’s no doubting the fact that something needs to change if the industry is going to survive at all post-lockdown – but blackmailing cinemas with their own destruction is ultimately going to kill off the very thing it’s trying to protect."
https://www.nme.com/features/streaming-services-have-saved-cinemas-but-now-theyre-kicking-them-while-theyre-down-2659161
Thanks for this @w2bond , France haven't really been in top consumers for cinema, i always thought it was opposite. Also, not surprised that US is the biggest market for Cinema.
Well said, completely agree with what you said. No matter what anyone says, nothing can beat that theatre experience.
Nothing the best cinema can do.
You can’t run a business model that relies on footfall when the maximum capacity of theatres and cinemas is going to be 25% full maximum. I’ve said before, Blockbuster video was a victim of online streaming and downloads. I fear cinema is going to go the same way.
Paradoxically you can’t allow Covid to wisely spread through the community as the knock on effects of lack of resources and healthcare then for ALL illnesses will be strained.
I don’t know what the solution is.
I realize that the article is focused solely on television, but you could just as easily apply much of this paragraph to a movie industry in which cinema has been replaced by streaming services:
Yes, Netflix or Apple may be willing to make Bond movies, and hell they may even make make one every two years which I'm sure would satisfy some people on these boards, but the literal economics of the industry and the companies demands that they'd be low-budget, middling-quality versions without anywhere near the same craft, travel, and quality as is put into them today. Be careful what you wish for.
I don't know any Music Halls. I don't go Ballroom dancing. I dont know any Farriers. Or Coopers. Or Blacksmiths. Or ship builders. Or miners.
An unfortunate truth is that industries and jobs come and go for various reasons. I would really never wish anyone to be out of a job, or for an industry that exists to bring pleasure to the public to go, but cinema's short term future looks bleak. Long term we will have to see. In the meantime, Amazon is doing a $250 million adaptation of Lord of The Rings....
+1
I'm on the fence, here. I am all about the theater experience. But I think it also depends on the film. The latest Star Wars films needed to be seen in theaters. Same with Marvel/Avengers films, all of which my daughter clamors for and always wants to see on opening night. But other than that? I've watched almost every Oscar-nominated best picture, over the past few years, at home. I don't think it ruined the film. The Favourite? Spotlight? Birdman? Green Book? Lady Bird? I saw all on the small screen, don't think it mattered.
One big benefit: I can pause the film for snack or bathroom breaks.
But yeah: I'd prefer Bond on the big screen, in a packed theater.
I can live without strangers whooping and hollering at the slightest thing throughout a film. Particularly now we live at a time when there is almost an expectation to react out loud to everything.
https://www.gamesradar.com/next-james-bond-daniel-craig-tom-hardy-producers-interview/