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The sad thing is they could easily meet the asking price if they would simply cut out some of those garbage, doomed-to-fail pricy shows and movies they spit out. The money's there and that'd certainly bring in a lot more subscribers for them.
https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/james-bond-franchise-now-streaming-youtube-free-ads/
https://youtube.com/watchbond
For the streamers, saying: "Here is the shiny new thing from the franchise you love" makes much more sense, if they also have a library to go with it.
Advantage for Amazon and Apple is, they can at the very least offer the other movies for rental or sale...
Agreed. Netflix won’t ever pay so much money for a film like NTTD and that’s not just because of the $600/800 million price. After a film with this level of scale, scope and talent behind every other future film in their catalogue would feel like a downer and that’s not good for Netflix. On the other hand Apple could benefit more, since their are desperate to increase their subscribers. Another delay is more likely if you ask me.
Yes, Apple want to increase the subscriber base for their services, but isn't their ultimate goal always to sell more hardware? So my thinking is they are less interested in buying a fully produced movie that has no placement tie-in with their products, but could potentially be more interested in buying MGM and making iPhones and Macs front and center in the Q Section in upcoming films.
But I honestly have no idea, what their "original" movies are like
Their subscription streamer AppleTV+ used to be exclusive to their hardware Apple TV, but now it's become more of a software app you can download on other hardware such as on a PS4. Back when I got an AppleTV it was purely just so I could watch my digital copies on my TV without having to hook up my PC all time.
I'm not really an expert in this, but if MGM (and EON) made that decision, what does that mean for the distribution partnership with Universal? MGM has a deal with Universal to let them distribute the film in theaters outside the US; and as I understand it, that deal still stands.
Now, I'm not sure if MGM can have their cake and eat it too, meaning Universal distributing the film in cinemas and HBOMax/WB having the exclusive streaming rights. That depends on the exact contract between MGM and Universal, but if that is an option and it happens, Universal might not be willing to renew their distribution contract for B26 or might sue MGM or otherwise demand a compensation. I can imagine Universal might also demand or get a compensation if NTTD forgoes cinemas completely and ends up at a competitor's platform.
And then there's Annapurna, who agreed to distribute NTTD together with MGM in the US, but given that the relationship between those two companies is already pretty bad, who knows what would happen there.
Universal will absolutely demand/get a compensation if their deal isn't honored. They have a legal agreement and if MGM wants to back out of that, there will have to be remedies. I have no idea how high that is going to be and whether there is a straight option in the contracts or if they need a seperate nullifying agreement or even a court settlement, but there is no way MGM can just back out.
To me the added complication is the split between US and non-US distribution rights. Universal (or rather their parent company) has a streaming service, Peacock. But that is only available in the US. The only country where they do not have the distribution rights. Annapurna/UnitedArtists/MGM of course do not have their own streaming service. So a "clean deal" like Warner Brothers just putting all the movies they have distribution rights for on their parent company's streaming service for a month isn't going to happen.
I believe all of this to be the reason why MGM was calling such a high number for the film. Because after they are done buying out Universal, Eon and everyone else who has a profit sharing agreement on the movie, there wouldn't be all that much left.
That is why my prediction is still a crippled theatrical run that will hurt MGM so much that it will subsequently be bought wholly by one of the global streamers (and I believe it will be Apple).
I may be wrong, but I think NTTD looks like it may be the 1st Bond film to actually lose money with all of the constant delays the film has suffered, and the money wasted on constant advertising campaigns. If it does, than surely MGM is going to be bought out. If Apple does buy MGM, then it at least gives them somewhat traction against the competition, and heck maybe we can stop having to wait 3-5 years in between films if that’s the case.
Looks like Marvel is now taking.the precaution of flicks maybe moving to Disney+. If Bond delays again, they will likely be the last hold out. Everyone else is now eyeing streaming deals regardless of blockbuster status.
Given the number of “mentions” (not ads) they’ve received on Turner Classic Movies (TCM/U.S.) of late, HBO MAX appears to be positioning themselves as a kind of “go to” streaming service for legacy titles. They may windup being a mix of the old FilmStruck steaming service and the Criterion channel in that they have the older MGM titles (“2OO1”) as well as the back catalog of WB (“Casablanca”).
Whether this would make them a good fit for Bond is an interesting question. Obviously, it will come down to money, but it is something to think about.
I watched the first one just now and it's quite fun.
Looks like a show worth checking out!
The dubbed version is a bit weird with everyone being American though.
That description certainly doesn't lessen my interest in watching Lupin!
Haven't checked, but do you have the choice between a dubbed or subtitled version? I'm likely to go for the latter if possible.
https://theinformation.com/articles/amazon-pondering-deal-to-buy-mgm
My least preferred option out of the big streamers, tbh.
Can I ask why? What is it about Amazon that you’d rather Disney?
Amazon is far superior to Netflix — at least in the USA. (And especially if you’re a cinephile.)
To me, Amazon (the entire company, not Prime Video) has lately morphed into something of a cross between a poundland and a flea market. Mass produced knock-offs by untrustworthy sellers trying to undercut on price and quality. That's at least my feeling. And that is not what I would associate with Bond.
And it's hard to know what their offerings are, because the Prime Video interface is largely impenetrable to me.
My guess is that the MGM name, logo, and brand would remain in place. And those who are disappointed that Bond films are not being released in regular 2- or 3-year intervals may like this deal. This will not mean that Bond film will be streaming instead of being released in theaters--Amazon already has a small production company (Amazon Studios) which has made some pretty good films in recent years. Most of these are co-distributed, in the same way that MGM co-distributes.