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  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    The beginning of this always reminds me of the overture of Lawrence of Arabia. Great theme, with a sense of adventure and wonder but laced with mystery and danger.

  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    One of my father's favorite tunes, Dolannes Melody. He used to listen to this arrangement by Eddie Calvert. I like the trumpet player's slightly loose rhythm. As far as I'm concerned, the whole piece is about building up to 2:13.



    I didn't know until last year this was composed for a film. Paul de Senneville & Olivier Toussaint wrote it for the 1974 French film Un linceul n'a pas de poches, based on the book No Pockets in a Shroud, by American writer Horace McCoy. The cast of the film includes Michael Lonsdale.

    Here's the original version of the theme.

  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    The Hydra / The Hydra Fight
    I listen to this score often, fantastic themes from a great movie.

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    The Wrong Man

  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I love the woodwinds and brass in the first piece, very cool sound. The second one is mostly catchy and cheerful, but interestingly, it has these mildly unsettling interludes, for example, at 0:26.

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    This is my favorite Ennio Morricone piece. From Wolf:



    This is another terrific piece, from Frantic:



    Beginning at 1:45, Morricone does this fascinating thing with the strings, where they feel like they're shapeless, just moving in seemingly random directions, at random times. It's hypnotic.

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    I was watching Absolute Power last night; these two themes stuck out to me.

    Love it when the piano kicks in in this first one by Lennie Niehaus:



    This one was composed by Clint Eastwood I believe:



    There is a resemblance to Claudia's Theme from Unforgiven. Both lovely pieces:



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    I want to showcase some of Randy Edelman's work. Successful but still somewhat undervalued as a film composer. But that's for another post!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    @mattjoes There is a good juxtaposition within The Wrong Man theme which effectively reflects the fate of the central character in the film.

    Frantic good film and enhanced by the great Morricone, thriller scores work best when there is that air of uncertainty within the music.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah I really enjoy the score to Frantic. The main theme enhances the whole feel of it so much.
    It's incredible how prolific and varied Morricone was; there's so much of his stuff that I hear for the first time that I wouldn't even necessarily be able to tell is him. Other than it's pretty much always brilliant!
  • Jóhann Jóhannsson's score for The Theory Of Everything is absolutely beautiful. There are so many moods and themes. Shame he passed so young. He did some really interesting stuff and was really starting to get into his stride. He scored a little known film called Copenhagen Dreams and that is also stunning. I often drive into Derbyshire whilst listening to these two soundtracks.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I watched Red Sparrow last night and was struck by this particular cue by James Newton Howard. It's really damn good.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I am currently listening to Barry's excellent KING KONG score. Great music that goes hand in hand with me reading a fascinating book.
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  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Very nice. I'm reminded of this piece from the first film:



    1:02 is brilliant! Really captures the feel of that surprise in the film... "Is that... an ape?! Am I going crazy?" It sounds delightfully grotesque.

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    I also like this by Jerry Goldsmith:



    I love that bridge at 1:10 with its irregular meter.

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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I am currently listening to Barry's excellent KING KONG score. Great music that goes hand in hand with me reading a fascinating book.

    That low synthesizer in the main title works really well in adding a sense of otherworldly menace. And I love the fact the title is underscored. "KING KONG". It carries its own weight, its own history.

    The Nightfall cue reminds me of Sacrifice from LALD. Slowly transforming source music into dramatic underscore works well, as in Death of Fiona from TB.

    In Fog Bank I think the background strings are just playing at random rhythms.

    Jack in Pursuit is one of my favorites. Both the film and the music are suspenseful, but within the suspense of the chase, there is another layer of tension when the ape jumps from one Twin Tower to the other. I love how the music tells a 5-second musical "mini story" for that bit, with a beginning, a middle and an end, and then goes back to the musical idea that was playing before.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    mattjoes wrote: »

    Very nice. I'm reminded of this piece from the first film:



    1:02 is brilliant! Really captures the feel of that surprise in the film... "Is that... an ape?! Am I going crazy?" It sounds delightfully grotesque.

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    I also like this by Jerry Goldsmith:



    I love that bridge at 1:10 with its irregular meter.

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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I am currently listening to Barry's excellent KING KONG score. Great music that goes hand in hand with me reading a fascinating book.

    That low synthesizer in the main title works really well in adding a sense of otherworldly menace. And I love the fact the title is underscored. "KING KONG". It carries its own weight, its own history.

    The Nightfall cue reminds me of Sacrifice from LALD. Slowly transforming source music into dramatic underscore works well, as in Death of Fiona from TB.

    In Fog Bank I think the background strings are just playing at random rhythms.

    Jack in Pursuit is one of my favorites. Both the film and the music are suspenseful, but within the suspense of the chase, there is another layer of tension when the ape jumps from one Twin Tower to the other. I love how the music tells a 5-second musical "mini story" for that bit, with a beginning, a middle and an end, and then goes back to the musical idea that was playing before.

    I completely agree, @mattjoes.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    @mattjoes Goldsmith was a genius I discovered his work through Star Trek and the Planet of the Apes films. The first Apes film still shocks, I have the Bluray Box set. Goldsmiths themes often have that primal and etherial feel.

    1:00 Amazing

    1:50 Incredible piece of music.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    The French Connection - Don Ellis

    1:50 such a cool theme.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I'm partial to this theme from the sequel:



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    Basil Poledouris' music for Quigley Down Under. Utterly fantastic film and score, I just can't recommend them enough:




    A lovely rearrangement of the previous theme to give it a softer, delicate touch:




    This is mostly a quiet, emotional piece, but the swell at 4:20 is glorious. As you can imagine, it underscores a very touching moment in the film.




    The chord progression in this next one is dramatic and heroic. I like the fact those stabs don't have any high brass, just woodwinds. I also like the banjo that joins in at 1:06. And I love the horns repeating the violin phrases at 1:48.

  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    I'm partial to this theme from the sequel:



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    Basil Poledouris' music for Quigley Down Under. Utterly fantastic film and score, I just can't recommend them enough:




    A lovely rearrangement of the previous theme to give it a softer, delicate touch:




    This is mostly a quiet, emotional piece, but the swell at 4:20 is glorious. As you can imagine, it underscores a very touching moment in the film.




    The chord progression in this next one is dramatic and heroic. I like the fact those stabs don't have any high brass, just woodwinds. I also like the banjo that joins in at 1:06. And I love the horns repeating the violin phrases at 1:48.


    Going to watch French Connection 2 over the weekend, recent re watched the first film.

    I saw Quigley Down Under on its intitial release on Home Video, not watched it since. Had no recollection of the score, i am a huge fan of Basil Poledouris I listen to Conan the Barbarian some times two or three times a week and love his work on Robocop.

    Murphy's Goes Home

    Excellent piece of music to a brilliant scene.

    Funeral Pyre

    Personally I think this is arguably the best score ever written.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I have never watched the film though a phenomenal piece of music by JB.

    This is the version I have on one of many of my JB Albums...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The Lion In Winter is one of Barry's best.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited March 2021 Posts: 7,021
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I'm partial to this theme from the sequel:



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    Basil Poledouris' music for Quigley Down Under. Utterly fantastic film and score, I just can't recommend them enough:




    A lovely rearrangement of the previous theme to give it a softer, delicate touch:




    This is mostly a quiet, emotional piece, but the swell at 4:20 is glorious. As you can imagine, it underscores a very touching moment in the film.




    The chord progression in this next one is dramatic and heroic. I like the fact those stabs don't have any high brass, just woodwinds. I also like the banjo that joins in at 1:06. And I love the horns repeating the violin phrases at 1:48.


    Going to watch French Connection 2 over the weekend, recent re watched the first film.
    I prefer the sequel to the original, I must say. It's one of my favorite films. I like the original too, but it can't compete with the sequel for me.

    I saw Quigley Down Under on its intitial release on Home Video, not watched it since. Had no recollection of the score, i am a huge fan of Basil Poledouris I listen to Conan the Barbarian some times two or three times a week and love his work on Robocop.

    Murphy's Goes Home

    Excellent piece of music to a brilliant scene.
    Very nice indeed. Especially love 1:34 to 1:56 and 2:27 to 3:16.

    From that score, I'm also delighted by this piece. Perfectly captures the threat of ED 209 and the pace of the scene. That ostinato at 0:13 could go on endlessly-- it's fascinating.



    This is another piece I adore, especially 0:17 to 0:44; it's brilliant stuff. 1:33 to 1:38 reminds me of May Day Jumps from AVTAK.



    And of course this rendition of the RoboCop theme. Love the anvil (of Crom) and the transition at 0:43 punctuated by a woodwind phrase, it's very beautiful.



    Speaking of RoboCop, I think the score of RoboCop 2 is excellent as well. It has a more comic book-like sensitivity, as does the film, but it's rousing music. In this piece, I love how the anvil and cymbal players take a second to get in sync at the beginning; it adds a unintentional but welcome touch of freshness. 0:27 to 0:57 is terrific. I love how the staccato brass notes from 0:47 to 0:50 play groups of five notes, but the brass notes from 0:51 onwards alternate between groups of four and five notes. A subtle touch of unpredictability to make things more exciting.



    I remember in Rosenman's second Oscar victory speech, he said he was baffled by how he, being for the most part a composer of original music, had won two Oscars for adapting someone else's compositions (Barry Lyndon was one score I believe, I don't remember the other, though I think he was also nominated for his Star Trek score, so he did receive some recognition from the Academy for his original work).

    I used to have this next album on CD; I think my father bought it at a newsstand. This is the first version I heard of the RoboCop 2 theme. For what it is, it's good, and quite faithful to the original but, of course, it's synth-based, so it's probably not to everybody's liking. I do prefer the orchestral version myself:



    I hadn't even seen that film back then, nor the original, only the third one and the animated TV series from the 80s. I then watched the first one, and only last year the second one. I like them, they're all good.

    Funeral Pyre

    Personally I think this is arguably the best score ever written.
    I haven't listened to that score in full, but that is a very good piece. 2:56 to 3:21 is particularly enjoyable.

    I like the main theme as well, though I prefer this next arrangement to the one from the film, or to be specific, the one from Anvil of Crom, as this one adds some higher brass and woodwinds to the melody, which gives it a more dynamic sound. Anvil of Crom does too, but it's less noticeable.



    And since we're talking about Conan, bringing up this Conan-inspired piece is in order. Posted with images for maximum effect:



    Magnificent. I believe we talked about it in another thread. 1:39 to 1:54 is sublime; I love the emotionally-complex mood it creates.


    I have never watched the film though a phenomenal piece of music by JB.
    Thank you for reminding me of this excellent score. That suite has some of my favorite tracks for sure. I adore the non-piano at 0:25 and the rhythm of the brass ornaments throughout that first piece. 5:02 to 5:19 is sheer beauty, as is 6:14 to 7:02... and those string chords at 7:20... and when that celebratory brass kicks in at 7:44, gorgeous!

    I haven't seen the film either, though I will some day. I did watch a Peter O'Toole film the other day, one I'd been wanting to see for a while. It's called Foxtrot. I liked it; I might write something about it in the Last Movie You Watched thread.

    This is the version I have on one of many of my JB Albums...
    Very catchy. It's The Lion in Winter meets The Knack. The brass at 1:33 is pure OHMSS, though.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Another fabulous John Barry score is RAISE THE TITANIC!

    The film it accompanies isn't great however. It's one of those standard examples of 'the music is better than the film it was written for'.


  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Another fabulous John Barry score is RAISE THE TITANIC!

    The film it accompanies isn't great however. It's one of those standard examples of 'the music is better than the film it was written for'.


    That music is seared into my mind. I think it was one of the first Barry soundtracks I have ever heard, along with Goldfinger and OHMSS. I actually only saw Raise The Titanic for the first time about ten years ago despite knowing the music by heart as a kid. It's majestic.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    @mattjoes I bought the trilogy boxset of Robocop a few years ago and rewatched the films, you are right regarding the second film being more cartoon though I surprisingly enjoyed it.

    The score very much had elements of Star trek 4 and at times was over the top re: the main theme. The chorus 'Robocop' is hilarious and great at the same time. Scores during the 80's and 90's often did not hold back.

    Total Recall
    is another favourite of mine, the main theme is suspiciously similar to Conan when comparing them, two great films two great scores.

    A few more Arnie movie classic scores, during his movie peak Arnie was blessed to have some of the all time masters scoring his movies...




    Fantastic opening.


    This has been my mobile phone alert tone for years, I absolutely love this theme.

    The Running Man - Main Theme


    Another Classic Score.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Going back to James Horner, the first minute of this track is phenomenal. It was never used in the film itself though was later used in Die Hard...

    It does not get much better than this.

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    I was blown away by this film as a teenager and the music. I have the 88 track version of the Score and the LP.





  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Always loved this theme, it was on the first Movie Score compilation tape I ever bought.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Always loved this theme, it was on the first Movie Score compilation tape I ever bought.

    I don t care for the film, but the soundtrack is great.
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    First Blood. One of Goldsmith's best scores I think, from an incredibly fruitful period for him. See also Under Fire and Poltergeist all in a year. Love the movie too, one of Stallone's best. Good solid old school action.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    cooperman2 wrote: »
    First Blood. One of Goldsmith's best scores I think, from an incredibly fruitful period for him. See also Under Fire and Poltergeist all in a year. Love the movie too, one of Stallone's best. Good solid old school action.

    Poltergeist score is fantastic, I am a big fan of the film also and its history.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    One of the most enchanting film scores, to accompany an equally enchanting film; Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975), music by Gheorghe Zamfir and Bruce Smeaton





    One of the more underrated soundtracks of classic Hollywood, Franz Waxman’s Sunset Blvd. I love how utterly bombastic the music becomes as Norma descends those stairs in that dramatic final scene:



    And as a big Lynch fan, it would be remiss of me not to mention the haunting music of Angelo Badalamenti:





    George’s Delerue’s Le Mépris, such an emotive piece that permeates a stunning film.



    And no list could omit the indomitable John Barry. I’ve selected one of his more underrated works, 1971’s Walkabout:

  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    @MayDayDiVicenzo I have the scores to Fire Walk with Me and Twin Peaks Badalamenti does foreboding well...

    Laura Palmer's Theme (Instrumental)




  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    @Fire_and_Ice_Returns
    Badalamenti’s music is what hooked me to Twin Peaks. Laura Palmer’s theme is a (twin) crescendo of emotion that trails into darkness. It suits Twin Peaks as a whole like a glove.
    Badalamenti is just as good with TP The Return.

    Badalamenti + Lynch + Julee Cruise’s vocals are really the heart of Twin Peaks. The episode “Lonely Souls” is as emotional as it because of that holy trinity
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