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NO TIME TO DIE (2020) by Billie Eilish - Theme Song Discussion

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  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    DoctorKaufmann wrote: »
    Guys, the corona crisis does get bigger and bigger from day to day, and some people, can only think, that this delay could lead to get a new song instead of the Billie Eilish song they loath. And complaining about the delay is also a rather odd thing to do.
    Because spending all day crying for those who're dying instead of trying to ease your mind with music and films would totally be helpful.
  • LFSLFS
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    The song is rubbish, the "singer" is rubbish. The Bond world is about class, style, high society. It's not about a vulgar ghetto girl maltreating our ears and eyes with an unaesthetic lowlife appearance.
    I'm right about this, you know? If the times we're living in do not fit the Bond formula anymore, then one should not adjust the Bond formula but END James Bond - as Bond himself would want it. The only Bond movies who really do live up to Ian Fleming are the first two anyway, so maybe I shouldn't care.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    LFS wrote: »
    The song is rubbish, the "singer" is rubbish. The Bond world is about class, style, high society. It's not about a vulgar ghetto girl maltreating our ears and eyes with an unaesthetic lowlife appearance.
    I'm right about this, you know? If the times we're living in do not fit the Bond formula anymore, then one should not adjust the Bond formula but END James Bond - as Bond himself would want it. The only Bond movies who really do live up to Ian Fleming are the first two anyway, so maybe I shouldn't care.

    Welcome to the forum.
  • BonSimonLeBon_1BonSimonLeBon_1
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    Billie Eilish is/was performing on the One World: Together at Home concert, don't know if she has/will be performing No Time to Die on it.
  • ShakenNotStirredShakenNotStirred
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    LFS wrote: »
    The song is rubbish, the "singer" is rubbish. The Bond world is about class, style, high society. It's not about a vulgar ghetto girl maltreating our ears and eyes with an unaesthetic lowlife appearance.
    I'm right about this, you know? If the times we're living in do not fit the Bond formula anymore, then one should not adjust the Bond formula but END James Bond - as Bond himself would want it. The only Bond movies who really do live up to Ian Fleming are the first two anyway, so maybe I shouldn't care.

    OK.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    edited April 2020 Posts: 755
    LFS wrote: »
    The song is rubbish, the "singer" is rubbish. The Bond world is about class, style, high society. It's not about a vulgar ghetto girl maltreating our ears and eyes with an unaesthetic lowlife appearance.
    I'm right about this, you know? If the times we're living in do not fit the Bond formula anymore, then one should not adjust the Bond formula but END James Bond - as Bond himself would want it. The only Bond movies who really do live up to Ian Fleming are the first two anyway, so maybe I shouldn't care.

    That’s a little strong about Eilish. She’s got a good voice and I wouldn’t mind the song at all if it hadn’t followed two other moody title songs. I really take issue more with the production. It’s bones bare with Bond cliches, albeit subtle so okay... but I’d prefer a song with its own cinematic sonic sound. FYEO has a sound and it doesn’t need Bond riffs to tell you this is Bond.

    As for only first two movies living up to Fleming... honestly both DN and FRWL are classics films but neither are as good as the book. GF does bring Fleming vibrantly to life as does OHMSS. You could add TB in too, but I would compare that more two the first two... great but the book is better.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    edited April 2020 Posts: 2,536


    David Guetta played a remix of NTTD [39.00] during his United From Home Miami Fundraiser.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,546
    007pen wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    I believe so

    NO TIME TO DIE
    www.007pen.com
    just released yestedray on the official website

    Don't click
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Classified
    Posts: 265
    LFS wrote: »
    The song is rubbish, the "singer" is rubbish. The Bond world is about class, style, high society. It's not about a vulgar ghetto girl maltreating our ears and eyes with an unaesthetic lowlife appearance.

    You need to check yourself.
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    Posts: 1,261
    He hates the song, fine, he's entitled to do so. And apparently hates James Bond movies. From that conclusion it leads me to ask, why he joined a Bond Fan Forum?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    DoctorKaufmann wrote: »
    He hates the song, fine, he's entitled to do so. And apparently hates James Bond movies. From that conclusion it leads me to ask, why he joined a Bond Fan Forum?

    It's not unheard of that there are Bond fans that exclusively like the novels and don't particularly care for the films. It's very rare and unusual for sure, since most Bond fans became fans because of the films. I think it's at least interesting to hear opinions of those who fell in love with the novels first, as it's not a very common perspective.

    Way back during the Keeping the British End Up years I remember we had a member by the name Erica Ambler, who was pretty dismissive of the films in general, especially heavily critical towards CR when it was released regarding it as the second worst film (above QOS). Though for what it's worth, he highly praised SF as the best film since the 60s.
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
    edited April 2020 Posts: 280
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    DoctorKaufmann wrote: »
    He hates the song, fine, he's entitled to do so. And apparently hates James Bond movies. From that conclusion it leads me to ask, why he joined a Bond Fan Forum?

    It's not unheard of that there are Bond fans that exclusively like the novels and don't particularly care for the films. It's very rare and unusual for sure, since most Bond fans became fans because of the films. I think it's at least interesting to hear opinions of those who fell in love with the novels first, as it's not a very common perspective.

    Way back during the Keeping the British End Up years I remember we had a member by the name Erica Ambler, who was pretty dismissive of the films in general, especially heavily critical towards CR when it was released regarding it as the second worst film (above QOS). Though for what it's worth, he highly praised SF as the best film since the 60s.

    I would've thought a book purist would prefer CR to at least the 70s films, considering its the most Fleming accuarate film since OHMSS.

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I think the fact that it was a direct adaptation for the first time and decades, not to mention being Fleming’s very first novel, made certain fans even more hyper critical of the creative choices the filmmakers made like adding in the “Bond Begins” arc. Making Vesper more verbally feisty rather than leaving her the enigma she is in the novel.

    I’m not against all of the creative liberties taken with the 2006 film, but I can understand why it would bother some like this guy:

    http://n007.thegoldeneye.com/two_views_casino_royale.html
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
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    I'd argue Vesper is better written in the film. Fleming was a good writer, but developed female characters were not his specialty. Other than Tiffany and Tracy, they're all very bland and same-y.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Am doing the most difficult job....ever. I've still not listened to Eilish's Song.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 755
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Am doing the most difficult job....ever. I've still not listened to Eilish's Song.

    I’ve not watched any trailers, so I feel you.

    As for Fleming lovers not loving CR the film... I could see the critiques of the liberties they took for sure. But the spirit, tone and characters are all there, so I still love. But for a Fleming lover to dismiss CR and love SF... that’s just bizarre.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    DoctorNo wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Am doing the most difficult job....ever. I've still not listened to Eilish's Song.

    I’ve not watched any trailers, so I feel you.

    I listened to the song but never watched a trailer. I was very happy that I managed to not watch a trailer and then everything changed and now I have to avoid any trailer for a much much longer time.

  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    I'm so glad they released the song before announcing the delay, listening to it is easening the wait A LOT. Now imagine if they had released the soundtrack too!
  • GeneralGogolGeneralGogol
    Posts: 928
    Walecs wrote: »
    I'm so glad they released the song before announcing the delay, listening to it is easening the wait A LOT. Now imagine if they had released the soundtrack too!

    Maybe just a few snippets, not the whole thing! Gotta keep some element of surprise in the film!

    On that note, I can't wait for some actual full scenes to be revealed... maybe even the PTS to wet our appetites.
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
    Posts: 280
    A plot leak would be a nice source of discussion in these long months of Quarantine.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited April 2020 Posts: 4,247
    I think plot leaks in a way, contributed heavily to SP's problems. Two or Three Tracks from Zimmer's score would suffice....that looks a more Realistic Scenario.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Yes even i wouldn't mind one track from Zimmer score.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Kurt Hugo Schneider and his gang of pro-musicians covering the track. As always with him it's very well produced plus it's almost like a music video



  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    Posts: 1,261
    Agent_One wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    DoctorKaufmann wrote: »
    He hates the song, fine, he's entitled to do so. And apparently hates James Bond movies. From that conclusion it leads me to ask, why he joined a Bond Fan Forum?

    It's not unheard of that there are Bond fans that exclusively like the novels and don't particularly care for the films. It's very rare and unusual for sure, since most Bond fans became fans because of the films. I think it's at least interesting to hear opinions of those who fell in love with the novels first, as it's not a very common perspective.

    Way back during the Keeping the British End Up years I remember we had a member by the name Erica Ambler, who was pretty dismissive of the films in general, especially heavily critical towards CR when it was released regarding it as the second worst film (above QOS). Though for what it's worth, he highly praised SF as the best film since the 60s.

    I would've thought a book purist would prefer CR to at least the 70s films, considering its the most Fleming accuarate film since OHMSS.

    I think, I remember that Erica Ambler fella (quite a nice nick name, btw) and him ranting against CR, and also DC. But you maybe right, the Fleming purists, who first fell for the novels, might have disliked the post-FRWL-movies (with the exception of OHMSS). My first contact with Bond were the movies.
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    goldenswissroyale wrote: »
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Am doing the most difficult job....ever. I've still not listened to Eilish's Song.

    I’ve not watched any trailers, so I feel you.

    I listened to the song but never watched a trailer.

    Same here, song is a nice teaser, trailer would just straight up ruin the film for me.
  • LFSLFS
    edited May 2020 Posts: 40
    How the hell do I delete a comment? Is that not possible? I didn't really mean to write one and now I need Q for help.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    LFS wrote: »
    How the hell do I delete a comment? Is that not possible? I didn't really mean to write one and now I need Q for help.

    Just edit it and replace all text with “deleted” or something similar. It’s the only way.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Yes @LFS, to the right side of your post seek out the black image that looks like a gear. It will let you edit the text.
  • M16_CartM16_Cart Craig fanboy?
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    LFS wrote: »
    It's not about a vulgar ghetto girl maltreating our ears and eyes with an unaesthetic lowlife appearance.

    This comment has nothing to do with the music. It's just a list of insults about aesthetic and image. There's too much ego and identity and music as it is.
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