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Totally agree! I’m guessing 3-4 weeks Nov/Dec theatrical run for the brave die-hards/cinema buffs (wherever possible in the world). Then, PVOD out just in time for the Christmas holiday — maybe $19.99 - $24.99 one time rental or thereabouts. And then a theatrical re-release in late 2021/2022 for those who missed the first run with emphasis on IMAX experience.
Well China isn't exactly known for their honesty and trustworthiness
This plan is WAY too reasonable. What are you doing posting on this thread???
Unless it's PVOD instead of cinema release - probably not. Two factors - Universal's 17 day deal actually prohibits them from announcing a PVOD drop until week 2. 2. The Mulan PVOD underperformance is apparently attributed to Disney announcing it will be available for free in December
"Aug23. In China, Where the Pandemic Began, Life Is Starting to Look … Normal
Markets, bars and restaurants are crowded again. Local virus transmissions are near zero"
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/23/world/asia/china-coronavirus-normal-life.html
"23.sep.Irishman living in China says life is back to normal there"
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0923/1166979-coronavirus-china/
Well I think we want the film to succeed and make money, so releasing the film theatrically when theaters are reducing showtimes (or not even open) and countries are rolling out new restrictions already in September, some of us feel like a November release could be a disaster. idk just one guy's opinion. I get there's not one easy answer too, but I don't think people raising legit concerns should be mocked and ridiculed.
This. Seems rather obvious to me. None of us are stakeholders but we obviously want films from our favorite franchise to succeed. Releasing the film in the midst of a pandemic, when it's only getting worse in places like the UK and lots of U.S. theaters are still unopened, where theaters won't even be remotely close to full capacity, is simply a bad idea. It's why everyone else is delaying.
We can argue all day long about China's corona numbers, but SF made $59 million there, and SP made $83 million. If this were to be the only big market in November, NTTD would be, by far, the lowest grossing Bond film in the entire franchise. I do not think that is what anyone had in mind in late 2019 concerning Daniel Craig's final Bond film.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/black-widow-west-side-story-eternals-release-date-delay-1234773491/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Let the speculation of what this means for Bond begin!
The vaccine is probably a year away, so postpone NTTD to November 2021 or even later?
It's not going away anytime soon.
But all over Europe the death rates are extremely low now, compared to the months after it broke out. Mainly due to well-functioning healthcare systems. Maybe Covid-19 will be the same story as AIDS. You can't eradicate it, but medication can keep you alive or prevent you from dying.
The widespread panic and fear seen months ago was because a lot of people died. But that's not where we are right now. Even the US is catching up. The death rates have been declining since the beginning of August there.
This all very well be true (although I think the notion that one film is going to save cinemas has been disproven by Tenet. More likely that cinemas will need to be saved by government funding. I also think the fact that other studios are pushing to 2021 shows that they at least have some faith in theatrical releases being viable in the future. that's maybe my optimism showing). I just think raising concerns about a November theatrical release are valid as well. As you previously stated, we're all speculating at this point. No need to squash other's views as stupid or invalid just because you see it another way. As each day passes there seems to be more and more reasons why November is becoming untenable, but you're right, we don't know for sure.
I'd be more concerned if NTTD was halted in mid production or even pre production with the possibility of being postponed full stop. But it's not. The film is done and in the can and it's just a matter of waiting for the best possible window to get shown in cinemas to the widest number of audiences.
I'm old enough to remember the torrid years following Licence To Kill, with the ongoing legal issues between EON and MGM and not knowing if another Bond film would be made ever again and for a long time, I'd given up hope until news broke of GoldenEye in '94.
So relax, it'll get released as soon as it can.
Yes, they are in a position where they basically have no choice. It’s the only logical reason.
Regarding you’re question... uhm, because that’s true..? I’m the kind of guy that takes a plane to London just to see the film day one (did it with SP and SF) but seeing it now with a mask on my face for 3 hours, with people around coughing and sneezing because we’ll be in bloody winter and cases will inevitably increase, having to risk quarantine if someone in my theater will test positive for whatever reason in the coming days... right now it’s not something I really look forward to.
Now would be fine, given the fact that for now Italy is doing great, after being hitten harder than any other country in the first place, but with colder temperatures approaching and schools reopening it’s gonna be far worse, in a couple of months.
Are you really comparing a coronavirus with an immunodeficiency virus?
XD
@Tones, please forgive me editing out everything but the point I want to respond to. Just striving for clarity here...
The possibility of "government funding" aiding the cinemas is unlikely under the current office-holders. (After the November elections is anybody's guess.) Consider the culture war being stoked by parties who shall remain unnamed here. Movie-makers (and therefore sellers) are part of the cultural "elite" being denounced routinely by you-know-who. I don't expect any govt. aid to be flowing their way anytime in the next few months.
Yeah, I wasn't commenting on the likelihood of it happening, just that it's likely the only real thing that will save cinemas. I would hope for some sort fo relief for cinemas, live theater, smaller concert venues, etc. but I also do not hold my breath for that to occur any time soon.
NTTD alone coming out in 2-ish months isn't likely to "save cinemas" though. No 1 movie is going to do that. Cinemas need multiple films coming out one after another to remain viable. So I guess posing Bond as cinema's savior doesn't ring true to me.
If we're talking about NTTD coming out in November as a loss-saving strategy rather than a profitable endeavor, than I think it's a mistake to think of it as a possible cinema saver. Doesn't feel like it can be both.
That sentiment should apply in all directions.
"For so many, never before has a disease been so little understood and so greatly feared.
For others, there is a precedent event: the HIV epidemic.
In the final segment of an interview with Contagion during International AIDS Society (IAS) AIDS 2020 Virtual Sessions this week, Cathy Creticos, MD, Director of Infectious Disease at Howard Brown Health, discussed the similarities and disparities of the COVID-19 pandemic and the HIV epidemic of the 1980s and early ‘90s."
https://www.contagionlive.com/news/covid19-vs-hiv-how-the-epidemics-compare
“You can't eradicate it, but medication can keep you alive or prevent you from dying”. Knock knock: in most of the cases you can totally eradicate it, just like a normal flu.
If there's one place where cinemas are not as threatened with closure right now, it's China. I wonder if NTTD can break $100 million as the appetite for Bond has been growing with each new film. In any case, I imagine the top 10 grossing films in the world each year will soon be dominated by Chinese films.