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https://variety.com/2020/film/news/dalian-china-coronavirus-cinemas-closed-again-1234715423/
@The_Return Do you ever, ever read and understand anything?
The article you posted says the results of the phase 2 trials are not in yet. They are progressing to stage 3 without the results of stage 2.
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“In the spring, the first trial, known as Phase 1, expanded to include older adults, and Phase 2 enrolled 600 people, split between those 18 to 55 years old and older adults. Results of those studies haven’t yet been reported.”
This is clearly the case - it’s as plain as day. I don’t know why people are blindly kidding themselves. Summer 2021 isn’t even a given.
We should Listen to scientists who have nothing to lose or gain rather than populist politicians.
Practically every country that has eased restriction is experiencing flare ups. Most in their summer when people are outside and weather is less Conducive to transmission.
November / winter in the northern hemisphere 2020 is not going to be better than today I believe, and even if they do open cinemas, sitting in a mask with a room full of strangers while paying £20 for the privilege is no where near the top of my to do list, Bond or not.
Since May, when most cinemas re-opened in Germany, there was not a single case of Corona, that had any connection to a cinema visit.
And you don't wear a mask while watching the movie, only when entering and leaving the theatre. As for now I feel much more safe in the theatre (having been there about 40 times since May) than in a restaurant, at work or on public transport.
https://deadline.com/2020/07/germanys-largest-cinema-organization-calls-for-less-distancing-in-cinemas-only-then-will-cinemas-survive-1202994178/
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Handler says that this would mean that even under an overseas-first release model, a major blockbuster would have to come out in the U.S. no later than three weeks afterwards.
https://www.thewrap.com/summer-blockbuster-season-is-lost-what-about-the-rest-of-2020/
So I guess this pretty much confirms a staggered release is impossible to happen for the foreseeable future.
We can then all get back to normal and start talking about real things, like who'll be the next James Bond!!!!!!! :))
Germany in my experience has a higher proportion of sensible, intelligent, responsible and compliant people than the uk.
I’m happy and want to be proven wrong about the release date. But I don’t see it. This is a film that needs to return $400 million to break even.
"Haven't yet been reported" simply means the results are not yet publicly available, not that the scientists conducting those trials don't know the results yet. They wouldn't move to stage 3 without knowing the results of stage two. Anyway that was just one example, there are various other vaccines that are in the final stages of trials: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/3-more-covid-19-vaccines-move-toward-final-stage-of-testing
You said that you think there will be a vaccine ready by the end of the year. Possibly much sooner.
We have 120 days to find a vaccine that works maximum. I’ll take you “possibly much sooner” as 2 months.
Let’s continue this chat On 24th September 2020. I’ll be more than happy to apologise if I’m wrong.
https://variety.com/2020/film/global/tenet-release-coronavirus-europe-christopher-nolan-1234715604/
NTTD wil be first Universal (with MGM) i think there release and all others include one with Paramount should wait. Mi7 wil be delayd to 2022 and already before i thaught Mi8 wil be released in 2023. 2021 wil be for Top Gun 2.
Sounds great....QUOTE: There are concerns, however, that for a film like “Tenet,” which relies on keeping its secrets close to the chest, a foreign debut could result in piracy, potentially spoiling some of the films surprises.
Thanks for the info, Python, didn't know about a bit of that. By that token, MGM technically shouldn't even exist anymore. Why are they fighting so hard to keep it alive? I mean, I love the lion and all, but still hehe...
I won't mind having a Bond film with no roaring lion at the start if, you know, we get the gunbarrel in its proper spot. ;-)
Very good pun. ;-)
But I agree, I really enjoyed his WW2 thriller Valkyrie he did under the UA brand. A shame it didn't go further after that.
My feeling is that they're gonna have to let the US piracy thing slide if they want to 'help' international by releasing it there first. It seems there's still some working out to do on their part on how the film is released in the States - there was a trade article mentioning that WB is considering opening the film September in states that are opened up and slowly expand as cities and regions are coming out of lockdown, but the AT&T CEO kinda shot that idea down the next day
I believe the breaking even point is $600/650 million given the $250 million production budget. They already lost $30 millions for marketing.
Why they not mention Italy :( where theaters are open since almost two months and the Covid situation is better than France or Spain right now. I’d go to see it.
"Exhibitors in the U.K., France and Spain have been told by the studio to plan for an Aug. 26-28 launch.""
"It’s worth noting, however, that given the fast-changing nature of the global health crisis, these plans could change if the situation worsens and more hotspots emerge."
Barely a day after this article was posted, the first major problem has appeared: the Spanish box office may not be open (or fully open) by late August. The region of Catalonia (the second most populated in the country) has started to shut down most non-essential businesses due to a surge in Covid-19 cases. The same restrictions is on the verge of happening in Madrid, the third most populated area in Spain.
Add to that the problem I mentioned earlier that the US box office will not be opened within a 3 weeks gap to the international rollout, this plan by WB seems nipped in the bud before they even confirmed their intentions.
The US gap aside - that's a separate question - I think instead of pushing the entire European launch until later they just open it without areas that are closed (like Spain) down.
Ultimately I believe that's what WB and Nolan want at this point - with AT&T perhaps (remember John Stankey is on that side of it) pushing back, especially on the idea of doing the same in the US.
Continually pushing back because this area is closed or that area is closed is defeating the purpose of the entire staggered plan which is to give the film to cinemas in countries that are open and crying out for new content.
The box office split is ever so slightly more in their favour domestically, plus there are cases where it's not WB themselves releasing it in some territories but third parties (in Eastern Europe mostly) so that's an extra cut. But from my understanding a lot of this is down to 1. ego and 'how it's always been' with the US being the first territory to launch a big film (don't forget how they're perfectly happy to do this the other way round) and 2. Piracy.
But I think industry consensus so far is quite clear in that regard, that's what the non US industry wants. We'll see what WB ultimately does, it seems other major studios for sure are less keen on the idea, intensifying the pressure.
Hopefully this does not mean the second wave will hit Europe much sooner than expected. Spain is not the only European country where cases are currently rising again.
https://discoveries.childrenshospital.org/covid-19-vaccine/
Brazil has just cancelled most of their New Year's Eve parties and carnivals, and we are still in July.