Favourite Bond Moments - Round 26: NTTD- Part 2: Ranking

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  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    Wow, that is a great read @Some_Kind_Of_Hero. You managed that I want to watch the movie right now or at least listen to the indeed wonderful score. Thanks for posting.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,597
    Barry's dramatic score propels the scene through to its gripping finale as Bond jumps onto the side of the Rolls, only to discover May Day has replaced his dead colleague behind the wheel. Bond's icy rebuke "Killing Tibbett was a mistake" and Zorin's flippant "Then I'm about to make the same mistake twice" end the sequence on the perfect note.

    Although there's always a bit of me that wants Bond to say "What, you're going to kill him.. again?!"
    :D
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    1 Paris car chase
    2 Bond attempted drowned
    3 Warehouse fight
    4 "Stop wheezing, Tibbett!"
    5 The great Achille Aubergine
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    1 Paris car chase
    2 Bond attempted drowned
    3 Warehouse fight
    4 "Stop wheezing, Tibbett!"
    5 The great Achille Aubergine

    That's a more controversial list than I expected. The car chase isn't a general fan favourite but I like it a lot, too. Especially the jump on the bus deserves more appreciation.
    Aubergine as a highlight? This is unexpected...however not as surprising as your number 3. I have to apologize for an earlier comment: I thought your mention of the warehouse fight was a joke.
    I always thought this is one of the weakest fights in the series, although the idea that the guards are “packaged“ on the production line works fine as a gag in a Moore film. What exactly is it that you like this scene that much?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It's hard not to enjoy Achille Aubergine, isn't it? It's such a wonderfully bizarre choice, and I love how Bond doesn't even seem to want to bother with him :)
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    1. Steeple chase
    2. Zorin is finding Bond the perfect horse for him
    3. Tibbett's murder
    4. Bond's drowning
    5. Bond hitches a ride to the Golden Gate Bridge and subsequent battle
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    1 Paris car chase
    2 Bond attempted drowned
    3 Warehouse fight
    4 "Stop wheezing, Tibbett!"
    5 The great Achille Aubergine

    That's a more controversial list than I expected. The car chase isn't a general fan favourite but I like it a lot, too. Especially the jump on the bus deserves more appreciation.
    Aubergine as a highlight? This is unexpected...however not as surprising as your number 3. I have to apologize for an earlier comment: I thought your mention of the warehouse fight was a joke.
    I always thought this is one of the weakest fights in the series, although the idea that the guards are “packaged“ on the production line works fine as a gag in a Moore film. What exactly is it that you like this scene that much?

    I get a laugh out of both Aubergine and the warehouse fight. Much of AVTAK is like a Pink Panther movie.
  • marcmarc Universal Exports
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    1. Bond discovers the simulation of Silicon Valley being flooded
    2. The entire finale, especially Mayday's sacrifice
    3. Golden Gate fight
    4. Bond approaching & entering the silver mine, with Barry's score
    5. Fire truck chase
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,597
    1 Paris car chase
    2 Bond attempted drowned
    3 Warehouse fight
    4 "Stop wheezing, Tibbett!"
    5 The great Achille Aubergine

    That's a more controversial list than I expected. The car chase isn't a general fan favourite but I like it a lot, too. Especially the jump on the bus deserves more appreciation.
    Aubergine as a highlight? This is unexpected...however not as surprising as your number 3. I have to apologize for an earlier comment: I thought your mention of the warehouse fight was a joke.
    I always thought this is one of the weakest fights in the series, although the idea that the guards are “packaged“ on the production line works fine as a gag in a Moore film. What exactly is it that you like this scene that much?

    I get a laugh out of both Aubergine and the warehouse fight. Much of AVTAK is like a Pink Panther movie.

    Ha! That's a good observation, they do have that same glossy UK movie feel.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Favourite moment of the PTS might have to be Bond firing the flare into the helicopter. It ricochets off the ceiling, wall, then into the pilot's cabin.
  • Wow, that is a great read @Some_Kind_Of_Hero. You managed that I want to watch the movie right now or at least listen to the indeed wonderful score. Thanks for posting.

    I freely admit nostalgia powers much of my fondness for the film, but there are some parts (I count Barry's score and Walken's performance as two of them) that are truly as great as anything else in the series.
    mtm wrote: »
    Barry's dramatic score propels the scene through to its gripping finale as Bond jumps onto the side of the Rolls, only to discover May Day has replaced his dead colleague behind the wheel. Bond's icy rebuke "Killing Tibbett was a mistake" and Zorin's flippant "Then I'm about to make the same mistake twice" end the sequence on the perfect note.

    Although there's always a bit of me that wants Bond to say "What, you're going to kill him.. again?!"
    :D

    Haha, never thought of this line this way, but I do that too with particular Bond dialogue.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    edited November 2020 Posts: 4,490
    1. Bond meets Jenny Flex and explains that a porter won't be necessary. (It gets even funnier when they are walking up the stairs and when they arrive in their room. A great laugh and something for the eye, too.)
    2. Airship to Silicon Valley (perfectly described by @Some_Kind_Of_Hero; with the drop out as the outstanding moment).
    3. Zorin massacres his own men (with that smile of a maniac!)
    4. The police cars are destroyed at the bridge: You'll have to pay for this vehicle . 100 bucks a month out of your paycheck...“
    5. Finale on the Golden Gate Bridge
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    Anyone else who wants to rank his top five moments of AVTAK before we move to the next film?
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    Here is the ranking of the four most mentioned (and/or highest ranked) moments for AVTAK. The average of our rankings (I also tried to include the suggestions of the members who didn't list a top 5:
    1. The banter between Bond and Tibbett
    2. Golden Gate fight
    3. Title sequence (Binder/Duran Duran)
    4. Airship to Silicon Valley (drop outs included)
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    I planned to switch to Brosnan or Craig but due to the sad news of Sean Connery's death I will obviously go back to the man who changed the cinematic world in 1962.

    Let's celebrate Connery's first appearance as James Bond. Which moments are your favourites of DN? Well, there is a certain Casino scene...Is this the best moment of the film? (or even of the series??). Which other scenes come close (or are even better)?


    Round 4: DN - Part 1: Suggestions and discussion
  • WillyGalore_ReduxWillyGalore_Redux I like my beer cold, my TV loud and my homosexuals flaaaaaaming
    edited November 2020 Posts: 294
    What else is there to say about the casino scene and that introduction. Three words. Just three little words and in an instant, celluloid immortality was assured. Just the sheer confidence and magnetism of Connery is as powerful now as it was 60 years ago. And audiences, long after I have shuffled off this mortal coil, will still be in awe of Connery's presence.

    Whilst the film itself has aged more than other earlier entries in the service (allbeit did receive a new lease of life when released in HD a few years back) the groundwork was laid out for all other Bonds to follow.

    The seduction of Miss Taro (for King and Country) and the subsequent killing in cold blood of Prof Dent still remains a highlight.

    And then there's the Bond theme. Written by Norman but made by Barry, which still causes my pulse to race and the hairs on my arm to stand up whenever I hear it.
    (The less said the better regarding Norman's score for the film).

    Overall a film, and it's lead actor, has achieved it's place in the cultural zeitgeist for then, for now and forever more.

  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    edited November 2020 Posts: 2,160
    1. The dinner scene with Dr. No is undisputably the highlight of the film for me.
    It’s amazing that with the first movie they already managed to set the gold standard for dialogue between Bond and a main villain. Both Connery and Wiseman are superb in it and while Dr. No is only my fifth favorite Bond film, this scene and the one at #5 solidify both actors as the greatest 007 and main villain.
    2. The tarantula room - Ken Adam’s genius on full display... add to that the calm but oh so chilling voice of Joseph Wiseman and you get one of the franchise’s most memorable and unnerving scenes.
    3. Gunbarrel/opening titles - the greatest opening to a movie, ever. I can watch it on loop until my eyes bleed and never get tired of it.
    4. “Bond, James Bond” - same as above in regards to character’s introduction.
    5. Dent executed by Bond in cold blood - perhaps more than any other scene, the one that proves beyond any doubt that Sir Sean IS James Bond.

    That’s right, no Honey emerging from the ocean. Iconic as that scene may be and as beautiful as Ursula Andress certainly was, her character and performance always left me cold.
    Perhaps it’s ironic that a character that always seemed like an empty shell, collected them for a living.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
    edited November 2020 Posts: 7,057
    A scene I really like is when Bond, after investigating Strangways' house, is in his hotel room. He gets a drink from the waiter, checks and locks the side door, powders the briefcase, places the hair on the closet, puts on his shoulder holster and jacket and leaves to meet with Dent, Pleydell Smith et al. Barely any dialogue, nothing too showy or dramatic, but a very cool scene.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Historically important but probably my least favourite of the Bond movies. It's not its fault that it got improved upon, it's good for what it is; I just became a fan because of what came later rather than this one. It certainly has that nice feel of a British movie of the time, which Bond movies had moved away from completely by around the time of Thunderball.
    I watched it again recently and I was surprised just how unlikable Bond is in it. He's cold and nasty and just plain rude to most people he meets, is unrepentantly responsible for Quarrel's death through a pretty stupid decision, and even unnecessarily murders one of Dr No's guards in the river when there's no need to. I can see why audiences responded to him, but I think it's impressive how much they improved his likability for the next film and Connery is so much better the year after.
  • I see where you're coming from, @mtm. I too think the formula was improved upon in many ways in future films, and yet so much of it was there right from the beginning and done so very well in so many respects right out the gates. There are a number of classic scenes in Dr. No, and I'd say any one with Joseph Wiseman is a candidate for top moment. He featured quite sparingly, yet made such a lasting impression.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 2020 Posts: 16,597
    Yes that's true, Wiseman makes quite an impression.
    I'd certainly list Adam's sets very high on the list of plus points: I love the design of Dr No's lair and it's such a stark contrast to the other world the film was set in. The corridor, the bedroom and the banqueting room all stand out and of course the Dent/spider 'Tonight' room creates quite an impact.
    Strange, I'd never really considered it but of course one of his set designs still endures in the series to this day: M's office is an Adam joint.
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Often firsts in long running series are a bit stuttering, finding their feet and work as more of a couriosity in the long run. Dr No on the other hand is still hugely enjoyable and so many of the things we love were right there.
    The things we still debate and enjoy now as fans in the new films; gun barrel, "Bond, James Bond", title sequence, Bond theme, M's office, banter with Moneypenny, Felix, ...
    The crew on this really were lightning in a bottle.

    My Top Five:
    1- Casino scene
    2- Chemistry between M and Bond in his office.
    3- "You've had your six"
    4- Checking the hotel room out
    5- the confidence of Bond in Dent's office when he doubles back to take the bit of paper from him, very cool.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    1. casino scene, particularly the dialogue between Bond and Trench
    2. Bond gets taken for a ride - "Both hands on the wheel, Mr Jones. I'm a very nervous passenger."
    3. Bond takes on Quarrel and Pussfeller in back
    4. Dent arrives at Taro's villa, while Bond plays Patience.
    5. the trio exploring Crab Key (scenes between meeting Honey and them entering the swamp)

    Honourable mentions:

    Sylvia dressing for golf
    Bond opens a new bottle of Smirnoff, sans poison
    Bond at Dent's office
    spider room
    dinner with Julius
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Some great scenes mentioned already. I want to add the swamp sequence.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    A scene I really like is when Bond, after investigating Strangways' house, is in his hotel room. He gets a drink from the waiter, checks and locks the side door, powders the briefcase, places the hair on the closet, puts on his shoulder holster and jacket and leaves to meet with Dent, Pleydell Smith et al. Barely any dialogue, nothing too showy or dramatic, but a very cool scene.

    These smaller scenes are great. I'm not sure if such scenes would work in newer films but it's definitely part of the charm.
    Some mentioned that they don't like the Bond theme while checking the room out for bugs. I disagree. It is a bondian moment and it doesn't need a spectacular action scene for the theme. It is solid spy work and was something special in 1962.

    Was the theme used again in a hotel scene in FRWL?
    The only time I don't like the bond theme is during the Little Nellie scene in YOLT. It should only be used there for the last moments after a track that raised the tension. The Bond theme tells me: look at Bond, he has every thing under control and he is performing with style. It should be used more often in the Craig era but it doesn't work for keeping up the tension.

    DN is great mixture of a crime/spy film and an exotic adventure flick. I love it. Im still not sure which moment to choose as favourite. Probably the dinner with the doctor. The set and the dialogue are perfect.

    I would also like to mention the Moneypenny scene. It is a very good scene and feels special for ne because it was copied so many times in the series.
  • DeathToSpies84DeathToSpies84 Newton-le-Willows, England
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    1) The casino scene - Connery’s delivery of "Bond. James Bond." and the dialogue between Bond and Trench introduced the world to 007.

    2) Bond gunning down Dent in ice cool fashion - "That’s a Smith and Wesson. And you’ve had your six."

    3) The tarantula scene - every arachnophobe’s worst nightmare

    4) Bond returns to find Trench playing golf and decides to kill a little bit of time with her.

    5) Dinner with Dr. No

    Honourable mentions:

    The seduction of Miss Taro
    Bond arriving for his briefing from M.
    Honey Ryder emerging from the ocean.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    @DeathToSpies84 Thanks for your list. To be sure about your #3: Do you mean the tarantula in Bond's bed or the moment Dent gets the eight-legged animal?
  • DeathToSpies84DeathToSpies84 Newton-le-Willows, England
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    @DeathToSpies84 Thanks for your list. To be sure about your #3: Do you mean the tarantula in Bond's bed or the moment Dent gets the eight-legged animal?

    The scene where it scuttles into Bond’s bed.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    A scene I really like is when Bond, after investigating Strangways' house, is in his hotel room. He gets a drink from the waiter, checks and locks the side door, powders the briefcase, places the hair on the closet, puts on his shoulder holster and jacket and leaves to meet with Dent, Pleydell Smith et al. Barely any dialogue, nothing too showy or dramatic, but a very cool scene.

    These smaller scenes are great. I'm not sure if such scenes would work in newer films but it's definitely part of the charm.
    The newer films have more urgency and tension, which doesn't blend as well with those types of scenes, but I think they could still include them. They would just come across as a little more intense.

    DN is great mixture of a crime/spy film and an exotic adventure flick. I love it. Im still not sure which moment to choose as favourite. Probably the dinner with the doctor. The set and the dialogue are perfect.
    I agree; what a great scene. I also love the elevator conversation that comes before it. "I'm glad your hands are sweating, too." Seeing Bond's fear is a little something that adds so much.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I have a fondness for some of the smaller moments in DN:
    1. Bond, James Bond
    2. M's Orders, "Just leave the Beretta"
    3. Meeting Felix, tailor talk
    4. The lady with the camera, "You'll all be sorry!"
    5. Spy tricks (referring to Bond securing his hotel room before leaving)
    6. Switching the vodka bottles
    7. Chez Miss Taro
    8. Professor Dent's End
    9. Honey's entrance
    10. Dinner with the Doctor
    11. Finale
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