Quick Big Mi6 Music Score Ranking Game

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  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Our journey continues with a small sidestep as we reveal our final Non-EON entry:

    CASINO ROYALE
    Music composed by
    BURT BACHARACH

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    It might not benefit from being an unofficial entry, but it's clearly appreciated more than most aspects that come from the Non-EON's.

    CR67 obtained one 9th place, two 11th places, two 13th places and one 15th place. Rather more successful than most things unofficial 007...

    On the other hand, overall it's still bottom 5 here of course. Unsurprisingly so, since 11 people did put it in that bottom 5. Two last places were noted, as well as seven 25th places.

    The original music of CR67 acquired 72 points in total.

    On a sidenote, this score was nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Original Score Written for a Motion Picture or Television Show. It lost to Mission: Impossible.
  • GoldenGun wrote: »
    Our journey continues with a small sidestep as we reveal our final Non-EON entry:

    CASINO ROYALE
    Music composed by
    BURT BACHARACH

    36134-2.jpg

    It might not benefit from being an unofficial entry, but it's clearly appreciated more than most aspects that come from the Non-EON's.

    CR67 obtained one 9th place, two 11th places, two 13th places and one 15th place. Rather more successful than most things unofficial 007...

    On the other hand, overall it's still bottom 5 here of course. Unsurprisingly so, since 11 people did put it in that bottom 5. Two last places were noted, as well as seven 25th places.

    The original music of CR67 acquired 72 points in total.

    On a sidenote, this score was nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Original Score Written for a Motion Picture or Television Show. It lost to Mission: Impossible.

    The points are so close between this, Dr. No, and SPECTRE! I had this at #25. I would never put it below the disastrous NSNA score though.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    CR67 is a fabulous score, an absolute delight. It's just not a "Bond" score, so this spot is fair. Still, 'The Look Of Love' is a bonafide "Bond" song, but everything else, while a musical masterpiece, doesn't fit in well with the series. The difference with Legrand is that Bacharach perfectly understood the film he was composing for. He accentuated its comedy, enhanced its underrated sex appeal and never ever tried to insult us by squeezing in something that pretentiously sounded like Goldfinger ("wa-waaaa-wa!") or the Bond Theme. My initial response was an eye-rolling WTF all those years ago, but this score quickly became a musical achievement I have nothing but the highest respect for. I keep it in heavy rotation. It always puts a smile on my face.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    @Birdleson and @DarthDimi , spot on!
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I'm quite disappointed to see CR'67 go so soon. I have it at 11th.
    It's a wonderful soundtrack befitting a wacky oddball non Bond film from the 60's. A true joy.
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    Bacharach got this score absolutely spot on.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    My ranking is identical with the first four reveals.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    This one hit 24th for me but it doesn't take away from how excellent some of those tracks are.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Benny wrote: »
    I'm quite disappointed to see CR'67 go so soon. I have it at 11th.
    It's a wonderful soundtrack befitting a wacky oddball non Bond film from the 60's. A true joy.

    Same here.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited July 2021 Posts: 7,021
    vzok wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    and the cool renditions of the main theme are what rescued this one from the bottom for me

    I like this one:



    The piece that opens this video is lovely as well, among the best the score has to offer and doesn't feel out of place in a Bond film:



    I also like the sneaky-sounding piece that plays when Fatima Blush arrives at the SPECTRE meeting. It's playful; goes well with the character.

    Much of the score has a playful sound, even the serious moments. It's catchy enough. But it's not what I'm looking for in a Bond film-- not entirely.

    The bike chase music is annoying with the trumpet going up the scale.

    I believe Herb Alpert was just visiting the studio with no plans to record anything, and ended up doing that solo in that first video.
    Thanks for sharing.

    DarthDimi wrote: »
    CR67 is a fabulous score, an absolute delight. It's just not a "Bond" score, so this spot is fair.
    In all fairness I think the score should be judged against the film being scored, not on the basis of whether its Bondian or not. This film is very different from the others being ranked.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I'm certainly an admirer of Bacharach's CR67. It's a lovely listening experience. Ended somewhere around the 15th spot for me.
  • mattjoes wrote: »
    and the cool renditions of the main theme are what rescued this one from the bottom for me

    I like this one:



    The piece that opens this video is lovely as well, among the best the score has to offer and doesn't feel out of place in a Bond film:



    I also like the sneaky-sounding piece that plays when Fatima Blush arrives at the SPECTRE meeting. It's playful; goes well with the character.

    Much of the score has a playful sound, even the serious moments. It's catchy enough. But it's not what I'm looking for in a Bond film-- not entirely.

    The bike chase music is annoying with the trumpet going up the scale.

    You're right it is a very playful score, and those clips are both great examples of what I was talking about. I particularly like the cue that opens the second one.

    I don't think NSNA deserved to go out first—still, I understand why it ranked where it did for the group. While not my own bottom 4, these were the 4 I expected to go first. But from here on out, I really don't know. A lot of people don't like GoldenEye's sound, but then many do. An Arnold that people don't like? A Barry that people don't like? I'm guessing GoldenEye could be next, but I really don't know at this point. I do have a feeling Kamen and Conti might not fare too well either.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I am guessing GE or FYEO comes next, but I could be wrong.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Probably my favorite scene in the film, and my favorite track (aside from LOOK OF LOVE, I guess). I would have loved to see a serious attempt at such a grandiose, Cecil B DeMille style Bond adventure film made in the fifties.



    The dance scene is beautifully shot and staged, and the music is downright excellent. My favorite scene of the movie.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    My favourite part is the Berlin dance school with the sets reminiscent of Das Cabinet des Dr. Caligari. But the dance scene is excellent as well.

    I actually have a strange fondness for CR67.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited July 2021 Posts: 24,183
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    My favourite part is the Berlin dance school with the sets reminiscent of Das Cabinet des Dr. Caligari. But the dance scene is excellent as well.

    I actually have a strange fondness for CR67.

    The experimental music at the dance school is another curious gem in the score. And 'Mata' looks fabulous in that scene.

    I too have a fondness for this film, @GoldenGun. When I studied its making of, a few years ago, I was actually impressed with the skill that went into it. Unfortunately, Feldman and Sellers dug a hole for the film, one because he didn't understand what the bleep he was doing and the other because he was acting up like a diva.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited July 2021 Posts: 7,136
    Rounding out the bottom 5:

    FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    Music composed by
    BILL CONTI

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    Seven bottom 5's were noted for FYEO, and 5 more members ranked it 21st. That's 12 participants who gave it a spot outside the top 20.

    That's hard to bounce back from, though it must be said Conti's disco tunes does have its fans, as it collected one bronze medal, one 6th spot, two 9th spots and one 14th spot.

    The original music of FYEO obtained 78 points in total.

    Edit: FYEO is the lowest ranked entry to receive a top 3 spot.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    There are some really excellent and tense cues in there, but much of it is so poor and irritating that it drags the whole film down. Bottom three for me.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    I ranked FYEO as #21. I remember that I loved the Bond melody we hear while they are in the submarine. The melody of the title song is also well incorporated at some points, but the disco sound during the action scenes is not my piece of cake. I don't hate it, not at all, but the rest of the unrevealed scores feel more fitting for a Bond movie.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    My #22.

    I really enjoy the weaving of the title song and Conti's upbeat renditions of the Bond theme, but the rest of the score (the big action cues especially) is far too lightweight and breezy and doesn't add to the atmosphere of a film that is consciously attempting to be more grounded.
  • My #21 as well. The title song and the bond theme are well incorporated into the score, but particularly the music during the ski chase is far too upbeat.
  • Slazenger7Slazenger7 Gothenburg, Sweden
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    Oh no that’s way too early. I like Contis score a lot, it’s groovy and the theme song is one of my favorites. I had it at #9.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    My #22.

    I really enjoy the weaving of the title song and Conti's upbeat renditions of the Bond theme, but the rest of the score (the big action cues especially) is far too lightweight and breezy and doesn't add to the atmosphere of a film that is consciously attempting to be more grounded.

    You nailed it. You wrote exactly what I tried to say with my limited vocabulary ;)
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    My #22.

    I really enjoy the weaving of the title song and Conti's upbeat renditions of the Bond theme, but the rest of the score (the big action cues especially) is far too lightweight and breezy and doesn't add to the atmosphere of a film that is consciously attempting to be more grounded.

    You nailed it. You wrote exactly what I tried to say with my limited vocabulary ;)

    You're far too self-deprecating, but thank you.

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The score itself is fantastic. The track that plays when Bond escapes the motorcycle thugs on skies is funky, upbeat and deliciously brassy; I absolutely love it. Some romantic cues are sweeter than chocolate. The fundamental issue with this score is that Conti never received the memo about disco being over at this point in time. Heavy guitars ruin the Bond Theme and wacko synth camps the film up in a bad way. Conti is a good composer; his scores for Karate Kid and Rocky work very well. The theme song for FYEO reflects his strength. And to his credit, he wasn't chasing the "Barry". Still, the wrong talent for this film? Arguably so.

    Over the years I have grown far more appreciative of this score, probably because I have managed to "get used to it" without slobbering monosyllabic grunts of disapproval all over the viewing experience like I did the first twenty or so times I watched the film. Between Barry's enigmatic MR score and his exotic OP, FYEO plays as another 'ugly ducking' of the Bond scores, without necessarily being bad when enjoyed in isolation and in a time capsule. But that's the main issue, isn't it? This score is neither timeless, nor appropriate even for the times in which it was used. Conti was punching slightly above his weight with this one, delivering the goods for the wrong movie.

    It's not an atrocious score at all, but I'm sure that a Barry score would've served this more serious Cold War thriller a lot better. Keep the Theme Song, but ditch the synth, flat percussion, brass and TV series level melodies.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The score itself is fantastic. The track that plays when Bond escapes the motorcycle thugs on skies is funky, upbeat and deliciously brassy; I absolutely love it. Some romantic cues are sweeter than chocolate. The fundamental issue with this score is that Conti never received the memo about disco being over at this point in time. Heavy guitars ruin the Bond Theme and wacko synth camps the film up in a bad way. Conti is a good composer; his scores for Karate Kid and Rocky work very well. The theme song for FYEO reflects his strength. And to his credit, he wasn't chasing the "Barry". Still, the wrong talent for this film? Arguably so.

    Over the years I have grown far more appreciative of this score, probably because I have managed to "get used to it" without slobbering monosyllabic grunts of disapproval all over the viewing experience like I did the first twenty or so times I watched the film. Between Barry's enigmatic MR score and his exotic OP, FYEO plays as another 'ugly ducking' of the Bond scores, without necessarily being bad when enjoyed in isolation and in a time capsule. But that's the main issue, isn't it? This score is neither timeless, nor appropriate even for the times in which it was used. Conti was punching slightly above his weight with this one, delivering the goods for the wrong movie.

    It's not an atrocious score at all, but I'm sure that a Barry score would've served this more serious Cold War thriller a lot better. Keep the Theme Song, but ditch the synth, flat percussion, brass and TV series level melodies.
    Would be interesting to know if some of the other voters feel differently about the music as score for the film vs. the music in and of itself. For NSNA, too!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I love this score. I was the one who gave it the bronze medal. It is my second most revisited score of the franchise. I absolutely adore its energetic disco sound, while I also love the more elegant romantic tunes.

    Had some Barolo today, so I'm not quite at my most eloquent, but I will defend Conti's FYEO to the grave.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I love this score. I was the one who gave it the bronze medal. It is my second most revisited score of the franchise. I absolutely adore its energetic disco sound, while I also love the more elegant romantic tunes.

    Had some Barolo today, so I'm not quite at my most eloquent, but I will defend Conti's FYEO to the grave.
    I love it as well. I think it goes with the film, too.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    FYEO is my 20th ranked soundtrack.
    Very, very 80’s and sadly it brings an excellent Bond film down. Though it’s still a very good Bons film overall.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Since I love the 80's, and, being a synth-enthusiast, certainly from a musical point of view; being a product of the 80's is something I usually quite like.
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