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Okay thanks, I'll need to watch it again!
That does make the eyeball at MI6 even more confusing then. Is it actually explained they got it from Blofeld? I totally missed it.
Yeah they explain it’s Blofeld’s, and that’s why he’s missing the eye when Bond meets with him.
The hazy white eye could have been the bionic eye disguised as a damaged eye, or, given Spectre’s influence, they could have had a surgeon remove that eye —since he needed medical attention at the end of Spectre — and replace it with a bionic eye.
Ok, that makes sense, I guess. The magic of retcon!
In the interrogation scene with Bond he definitely has no right eye at all, so the bionic one must have been removed at the time M sent Nomi to search both Blofeld & his cell.
"Sir! I'll bring my gloves ...!", she says.
Which I personally found hilarious. Though no one around me laughed, sadly ....
It's also the poison that was released during the Seveso disaster in 1976. Nasty stuff :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seveso_disaster
As always, Q's computer tech is a bit iffy (the "missing part of the drive" was slightly egregious) but I thought it worked better here than the infamous Skyfall sequences...
@Creasy47 I definitely took that as Blofeld messing with Bond's head and setting up Madeleine on purpose, to get to Bond.
You think it was a bad idea, or just badly explained in the film?
I understood it, at least. And I love the idea: two one-eyed people using their false eyes to communicate.
Or Blofeld has been treated right after his capture and some undercover SPECTRE doc provided him the bionic eye right under Her Majesty's government's nose. So no need to retcon. His eye was in pretty bad conditions at the end of SP so that would make sense.
He was looking in a mirror. Blofeld's eye caught his reflection.
Yeah I just realized that's probably what it was. Thanks!
And why is it on Blofeld's eye anyway? Do they share? Ugh! :D
However one thing I still don't understand in the film is Primo's allegiance to Blofeld (i.e. Spectre) vs Safin. At the start in Matera Primo is working for Blofeld, which makes perfect sense since Safin hasn't reemerged yet, but the next time we see him 5 years later he is taking orders from Safin through his earpiece. Is Primo playing both sides? Is he a double agent? Does he know Safin isn't Spectre? Is Safin Spectre? And since Primo has his bionic eye with him, isn't Blofeld watching him communicate with Safin?
I get that Primo is trying to kill Bond during the Cuban scene and I'm assuming it's on Blofeld's orders but I honestly don't know. The reason I'm unsure is because Bond is actually being led into the trap by Logan and Obruchev who are both on Safin's side. Also, why isn't Obruchev worried that he's surrounded by Spectre agents if he was expecting Safin's men? Is Obruchev a double agent? Or trying to play both sides in order to survive? Once Primo realizes the DNA was switched why doesn't he kill Obruchev for double crossing him and his organisation? Side note: why doesn't Primo die from the poison if he's Spectre?
After the party why does Primo ignore Blofeld? The only reason for taking his eye back would be to stay in touch with him, but it seems he gets recruited by Logan at this point perhaps? In which case why keep the bionic eye allowing Blofeld to watch along? Or is he recruiting Logan?
Probably missed some questions but I think that's enough for now. :)
Heh!
Yeah, I think it's fine (if unnecessary) that he switches sides, but to have him be the guy who watches over Valdo as he sets up the toxin and for Valdo to pull a fast one on him, only for them to be working together the next time we see them with no explanation is poor storytelling. I know someone will say we shouldn't need everything spoonfed, but half of the real talent of filmmaking is not giving the audience needlessly confusing information, and showing Valdo tricking Primo is exactly that.
Is that stated in the film?
Valdo is working for Safin because he himself states he has a larger vision for the nanobots. Anyway, Primo is there to make Valdo set up the nanobots to kill Bond, but obviously, Valdo pulls that trick to switch them under Safin's order.
The virus/nanobots only kill the high-ranking SPECTRE members (basically anyone whose wearing a ring), whereas Primo and other henchmen survive because they're just henchmen, which is why Bond and Paloma have people to fight after the deaths of the high-ranking members. Primo then probably just escaped during the chaos once he gets his eye back.
Anyway, after this, Primo is still working for Blofeld, but then once Blofeld has been killed himself by the nanobots, that's when Ash approaches Primo to come work for Safin, probably knowing Primo would have his own vendetta against Bond at this point.
Not directly but during their first meeting Ash said to Primo "Sorry for your loss... we have opportunities for you". Primo was 100% loyal to Blofeld til the SPECTRE party. The film makes it perfectly clear.
So it may not be deliberate that Primo survives, all we know is that he does.
It's not directly stated but seems pretty obvious.
Safin just got Primo involved once Blofeld was dead because he probably knew he could use him to his advantage. I don't think it was planned for Primo to be recruited. If Primo's DNA was in the list of major SPECTRE agents, he would've died too, but he was just a henchman.
According to the Making Of book that released today, it is called the Happenstance.