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And @mtm , you are right. If he actually loved her, he would built a weapon specifically to kill her and her child. But then again, he is a bit of a psycho, so normal standards don't really apply.
The game is called Spoof (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoof_(game)?wprov=sfla1) and basically the aim is to guess how many coins there are in total, while only knowing how many you yourself are holding. Both can take up to three and then the first player says a number and the other player has to say a different number. Then you open the hands and see how many there are in total. You win by guessing correctly, although normally it is played in larger groups and guessing correctly means you can stop playing; last one left has to buy a round.
Supposedly it's the favourite game of Daniel Craig's father, who used to own two pubs.
So he does say 'anyone'? I thought he did- that's just doubly confusing!! So who does the red virus kill?!
Is it actually mentioned? I know we can piece it together but I don't remember them actually saying 'we found a bionic eye in Blofeld's head'.
Oh gosh, I thought it was just some plant, I didn't even think it had been established earlier. I did wonder how hot that tea could possibly though: the way he acts when it's thrown in his face (from a not-very big teacup) reminded me of the fights you get in Naked Gun when someone screams when some feathers are thrown in their face or something :D
Yeah, that is a bit of a cop-out though because clearly he doesn't even mean what he says in that moment. Also it sounds like it doesn't even make sense anyway! :)
Maybe it's because of the asymptotic carrier thing?
Anyone (meaning actually anyone) we touch, we are their (Madeleine and Mathilde's!) curse.
It's not great writing.
Also, I've said it before, but I would have preferred it if Bond was infected with a strand of the virus that kills absolutely anyone he touches. He is finally the ultimate weapon, but of course he cannot go on like that, so he chooses death.
Yeah it just makes it clearer. I like the poetry that he would kill only the Swanns because it reinforces that they are his entire world, but they fumbled the delivery. To be honest there are too many toxins that kill just these people, or they kill everyone but these people, which makes the rules around it confusing to follow.
Yes, we as fans can work it all out, but it's a popcorn movie- you need to hand this stuff to the audience and make sure you play inside the rules. But the rules on the toxin literally reverse from one use to the next.
It was
This is all just further evidence that I wish they had gone with some sort of plant based toxin that’s super spreadable/lethal instead of magic targeted nanomachines. Would have made more sense and gotten rid of the whole M helped develop an absurdly powerful super weapon while still more or less keeping the rest of the plot the same.
They never say that (I think), but at the second scene in M's office, M orders Q to "hack into Blofeld's bionic eye".
Yes, they mention it after Nomi is tasked with giving a full body-cavity search. :D
There's no reason to believe the blinding was a bluff; stealing someone's sight would be a way to make them docile and obedient. Luckily for Primo, one of his eyes is fake.
Think of it less in terms of love, but more of control. Safin is like an abusive husband who torments his wife but also won't let her leave him. He's obsessed with Madeleine as the woman "he gave life to" by saving her, but don't mistake that with genuine love. Safin is all about control.
Is that the stuffed toy she has?
But Mathilde's one was probably some prop knitted together by a seamstress. Most doudous are handcrafted and unique.
And, yes, I do indeed think we are meant to give some metaphorical weight to the line, "Anyone we touch, we are their curse." Exactly as with Greene in QOS, as pointed out above. A reference to Bond's past ... the dead women ... but also allies, etc.
But does Swann think so, too, however much she might love him? Does this explain, at least in part, her assertion regarding Mathilde, "She's not yours," in the house in Norway? That raising a child away from Craig-Bond might be safer for both mother & child?
Eh, I dunno, at least Greene's words are clearly all metaphorical: with Safin's it's just the 'anyone' part? It's just poorly thought-out. It would even have more impact if he mentioned the Swanns.
Which is possibly the most James-Bond-film line ever delivered :D
So not 'anyone'. The line doesn't work.
Yes, but the point is he acts like he and James are the same in that they can't leave the island to protect Madeline, but an abusive husband doesn't protect the wife at the cost of his own life. What he says in that moment doesn't make sense.
Ambiguously, I admit, "their" may literally refer to both Madeleine & Mathilde, as Safin in the act of infecting Bond is also clearly shown to have infected himself with the contents of the broken vial.
And then there is the separate metaphorical meaning noted above ...
Yeah I was so caught up in the film I didn't even realize this until today. Safin's grandiose and delusional mind probably told him that he'd find Madeline and they'd be together but then when he was pinned down by Bond he just went for it and doomed himself also knowing he didn't stand a chance against Bond.
Normally I'd say it weakens the villain if they are so easily dispatched by Bond but in this case it really elevated Safin's insanity. He had to rely on his wits and this final ace in the hole he had because in person he was just an "angry little man"
It's not all that different from Blofeld flirting with Tracy in OHMSS.
That just is a badly written line if that's the intended meaning! :)
Obviously he's digging the knife: he knows he's dead, basically. But his lines aren't clear to the audience, it's muddily written stuff. All he needs to say to Bond is "if you touch them you will be their curse". Him adding himself into the equation doesn't convince at all because we know he wouldn't care.
Do you actually think it's flawlessly written?
But hey, what's great is we can all have different opinions about these things. I'd be curious to hear if Safin rises in your estimation when you see the movie again.
I'm literally just saying that line is poorly phrased to be confusing to the audience.
It makes perfect sense since they both carry a death sentence for the Swann’s. Even if they don’t see them ever again the nanobots will eventually spread like a virus if they keep living their life touching other people.
I watched it again yesterday and Safin clearly smashes the vial on Bond’s face. Maybe there are some tiny continuity errors with Bond’s scars on his face.
Another thing I noticed is that Vesper (1983-2006) is buried alongside her mother’s family. I don’t remember the exact names but the tomb above Vesper has the name of her mother + “Lynd’s widow” written on it. So NTTD establishes that Vesper’s mom and grandparents were from Matera so she’s half Italian and she’s not buried in Matera randomly.
I saw that on my second watch aswell. I can't remember the name of the Italian part of the family, though. Does anyone recall? Could be another Easter Egg. The names on the tombs in SP where crew members, right?
How does Blofeld know that Bond will be at the meeting?
He doesn't. He thinks he has Heracles. The original plan was to infect everyone at the party with the Heracles targeted at Bond and then let the virus work it's way towards him. That's why they spray it on everyone even though only one man is the target. Primo shadows Bond in Jamaica and probably in Cuba, too, first to get his DNA and then to make sure Blofeld can see him die once the virus reaches him. Only Bond decided to come to the party himself. So Blofeld did a bit of an impromptu speech only for everything to blow up in his face.
During the scene on the ship with Felix and Ash, Bond asks to Waldo how did Blofeld knew he would've been at the party, and Waldo looks at Ash, hinting that was him who leaked the info.