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  • patbpatb
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    I don't get the seperation between "serious acting" and action movies. They are not mutually exclusive. We have seen Arnie and others struggle in action movies due to their acting limitations. There are still moments in MI where TC needs to act and he does (I love the French police woman scene) it could be ruined by bad acting. He brings a light touch and sensitivity to the role that perhaps we take for grsated. There is an ongoing eletism that we see regarding actors within action movies compared to actors in "dramatic roles" (the oscars are guilty of this IMHO), watch this again and imagine Arnie or Jason S delivering those lines....


  • vzokvzok
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    talos7 wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    He's too old to pull off the long hair now, I think. It doesn't suit him in the way it once did. Cruise is a smart dude. He knows how to make himself look good.
    That's what I think, he dropped the long hair because of his age.

    While not as youthful looking in his 50’s as Cruise, Roger Moore would have benefited immensely with shorter hair in his latter films.

    That wasn’t entirely a style choice.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,422
    This is a good podcast featuring an interview with McQuarrie and quite a few other M:I luminaries all talking about the current status of the new movies, with a few tidbits too:
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/light-the-fuse-a-mission-impossible-podcast/id1404667823
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Lorne Balfe returns as the composer for Mission Impossible 7 & Mission Impossible 8.

    https://filmmusicreporter.com/2020/05/13/lorne-balfe-to-return-for-christopher-mcquarries-mission-impossible-7-8/

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Good news. Balfe did an excellent job with the last one.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2020 Posts: 16,422
    Yes I think that's revealed in that podcast (he joins in). Personally I'm not over the moon about that, I didn't like his score at all (although it did its job). I'd much prefer Joe Kraemer back but apparently McQ fell out with him (so it's said, anyway).
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    https://www.comicbookmovie.com/action/mission_impossible/mission-impossible-7-8-director-says-hayley-atwells-mystery-character-is-a-destructive-force-of-nature-a175390

    Sounds like Hayley Atwell will be a villain for the first time in her career. I wish EON would have gotten her for a James Bond role.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2020 Posts: 16,422
    It’s worth listening to that podcast because that’s where all this news is coming from; they talk about her role, and although I’m sure they’re not telling the entire truth, it does seem as if they’re not entirely even decided what her role is just yet.
  • TR007TR007
    Posts: 1,165
    mtm wrote: »
    Yes I think that's revealed in that podcast (he joins in). Personally I'm not over the moon about that, I didn't like his score at all (although it did its job). I'd much prefer Joe Kraemer back but apparently McQ fell out with him (so it's said, anyway).

    What’s your source for the falling out?

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Gosh I can’t remember, I think a mate told me he read it somewhere. I don’t know if it’s true but I hope it’s not. They did used to work together all the time though and it seems to have stopped suddenly.
  • BT3366BT3366
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://www.comicbookmovie.com/action/mission_impossible/mission-impossible-7-8-director-says-hayley-atwells-mystery-character-is-a-destructive-force-of-nature-a175390

    Sounds like Hayley Atwell will be a villain for the first time in her career. I wish EON would have gotten her for a James Bond role.

    The Bond series got Lea Seydoux after she played a villain in MI: Ghost Protocol. So it wouldn't be the first time, just a case where MI one-ups Eon again.
  • BonSimonLeBon_1BonSimonLeBon_1
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://www.comicbookmovie.com/action/mission_impossible/mission-impossible-7-8-director-says-hayley-atwells-mystery-character-is-a-destructive-force-of-nature-a175390

    Sounds like Hayley Atwell will be a villain for the first time in her career. I wish EON would have gotten her for a James Bond role.

    She's already (sort of) crossed over into the world of Bond

    https://spyscape.com/
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited May 2020 Posts: 15,718
    Esai Morales to replace Nicholas Hoult In villain role for Mission: Impossible 7.

    https://deadline.com/2020/05/esai-morales-replace-nicholas-hoult-mission-impossible-7-1202940112/
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Not exactly an AA winner...
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    That's a weird jump in casting @DaltonCraig007
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    Esai's a stud and plays a villain so well, especially on Ozark. Not a fan of Hoult in the slightest so this is some of the best casting news yet.
  • GeneralGogolGeneralGogol
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    I love that M:I keeps casting very interesting, sometimes out-of-the-blue actors. Keeps the competition with 007 strong!
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited May 2020 Posts: 4,520
    Holt was cast for 7th and 8th movie, possibe his scenes are part of the minutes the Directer explaint earlier that wil be first minutes of Mi8. Mission Impossible 7 wil be 2hrs long. Holt part possible mabey now limited to those scenes, also with in mind he is to bissy for 2021.

    Esai Morales is older actor and last movies already have very young actors.
  • PDJamesBondPDJamesBond
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    I haven't seen Sean Harris's name in any cast list or press release. Do we have any idea whether he'll be back as Solomon Lane? Lane is still alive and he's a great villain so I hope they utilize him in *some* capacity.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
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    PDJamesBond wrote: »
    I haven't seen Sean Harris's name in any cast list or press release. Do we have any idea whether he'll be back as Solomon Lane? Lane is still alive and he's a great villain so I hope they utilize him in *some* capacity.

    Really? Soloman Lane is a woefully underwritten character with a completely unidentifiable motivation. I've seen his M:I films a number of times, and I can't tell you his schemes or even why he is doing them. He's a pretty crappy baddie.

    However.....he works really well because of Sean Harris who is so very good at being a snidely rat-like human being. His voice is so brilliantly creepy and instantly puts you on edge. Even with the most flimsy writing, Harris can overcome it and make this baddie threatening. If you had any other actor then Lane would be a misfire. Harris does the work, to make the character sing. Otherwise, Mcquarrie needs to figure a way to do more with him...

    bN6p6.png

    Loosing Hoult is shocking. I understand the reasons given, but the new guy has no resemblance to him....which either means the role is just another cookie-cutter baddie that anyone can play and in such case casting is so important. The alternative is that the script changed in recent weeks and Hoult was no longer right for the role.

    Nonetheless, it's a shame as this could have been the film that got Hoult the attention he needed. He almost got Batman but lost out to R-Patz (who looks to be on a winning streak from the Tenet trailer) and now this. Hoult could be the new Bond if he keeps the momentum he currently has...but loosing this gig will hurt his chances as he'll become a lot less visible.

    Nicholas-Hoult-GQ-25May16_rex_b.jpg
  • UnivexUnivex
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    Couldn't disagree more, I'm afraid. Solomon Lane is the best villain in all the Mi franchise. Written through is actions and a very apt mythological construction which relies on absence and cruelty. Sean Harris made it whole, of course. A brilliant character.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Univex wrote: »
    Couldn't disagree more, I'm afraid. Solomon Lane is the best villain in all the Mi franchise. Written through is actions and a very apt mythological construction which relies on absence and cruelty. Sean Harris made it whole, of course. A brilliant character.

    Agreed. 100%.

    Second only to Hoffman's villain, for me.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Couldn't disagree more, I'm afraid. Solomon Lane is the best villain in all the Mi franchise. Written through is actions and a very apt mythological construction which relies on absence and cruelty. Sean Harris made it whole, of course. A brilliant character.

    Agreed. 100%.

    Second only to Hoffman's villain, for me.

    Oh, yes. Can you imagine those two working together? I'd be afraid. Very afraid :)
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited May 2020 Posts: 8,217
    Univex wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Couldn't disagree more, I'm afraid. Solomon Lane is the best villain in all the Mi franchise. Written through is actions and a very apt mythological construction which relies on absence and cruelty. Sean Harris made it whole, of course. A brilliant character.

    Agreed. 100%.

    Second only to Hoffman's villain, for me.

    Oh, yes. Can you imagine those two working together? I'd be afraid. Very afraid :)

    Quite the clash of egos it would be!

    I often watch this opening if I'm writing scenes with hints of villainy. Hoffman does a lot here without doing very much at all. He interrogates Ethan with his eyes. Also, just a great introduction scene in general.

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,217
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    PDJamesBond wrote: »
    I haven't seen Sean Harris's name in any cast list or press release. Do we have any idea whether he'll be back as Solomon Lane? Lane is still alive and he's a great villain so I hope they utilize him in *some* capacity.

    Really? Soloman Lane is a woefully underwritten character with a completely unidentifiable motivation. I've seen his M:I films a number of times, and I can't tell you his schemes or even why he is doing them. He's a pretty crappy baddie.

    However.....he works really well because of Sean Harris who is so very good at being a snidely rat-like human being. His voice is so brilliantly creepy and instantly puts you on edge. Even with the most flimsy writing, Harris can overcome it and make this baddie threatening. If you had any other actor then Lane would be a misfire. Harris does the work, to make the character sing. Otherwise, Mcquarrie needs to figure a way to do more with him...

    bN6p6.png

    Loosing Hoult is shocking. I understand the reasons given, but the new guy has no resemblance to him....which either means the role is just another cookie-cutter baddie that anyone can play and in such case casting is so important. The alternative is that the script changed in recent weeks and Hoult was no longer right for the role.

    Nonetheless, it's a shame as this could have been the film that got Hoult the attention he needed. He almost got Batman but lost out to R-Patz (who looks to be on a winning streak from the Tenet trailer) and now this. Hoult could be the new Bond if he keeps the momentum he currently has...but loosing this gig will hurt his chances as he'll become a lot less visible.

    Nicholas-Hoult-GQ-25May16_rex_b.jpg
    Nah, if he had to bow out because of a scheduling conflict, I don’t see that as having any effect on his chances. It’s not like being booted for being too demanding or difficult.
    He’s high on my list and is improving with age. If the next Bond is 5 to 7 years off, he’ll be just right.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,422
    talos7 wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    PDJamesBond wrote: »
    I haven't seen Sean Harris's name in any cast list or press release. Do we have any idea whether he'll be back as Solomon Lane? Lane is still alive and he's a great villain so I hope they utilize him in *some* capacity.

    Really? Soloman Lane is a woefully underwritten character with a completely unidentifiable motivation. I've seen his M:I films a number of times, and I can't tell you his schemes or even why he is doing them. He's a pretty crappy baddie.

    However.....he works really well because of Sean Harris who is so very good at being a snidely rat-like human being. His voice is so brilliantly creepy and instantly puts you on edge. Even with the most flimsy writing, Harris can overcome it and make this baddie threatening. If you had any other actor then Lane would be a misfire. Harris does the work, to make the character sing. Otherwise, Mcquarrie needs to figure a way to do more with him...

    bN6p6.png

    Loosing Hoult is shocking. I understand the reasons given, but the new guy has no resemblance to him....which either means the role is just another cookie-cutter baddie that anyone can play and in such case casting is so important. The alternative is that the script changed in recent weeks and Hoult was no longer right for the role.

    Nonetheless, it's a shame as this could have been the film that got Hoult the attention he needed. He almost got Batman but lost out to R-Patz (who looks to be on a winning streak from the Tenet trailer) and now this. Hoult could be the new Bond if he keeps the momentum he currently has...but loosing this gig will hurt his chances as he'll become a lot less visible.

    Nicholas-Hoult-GQ-25May16_rex_b.jpg
    Nah, if he had to bow out because of a scheduling conflict, I don’t see that as having any effect on his chances. It’s not like being booted for being too demanding or difficult.
    He’s high on my list and is improving with age. If the next Bond is 5 to 7 years off, he’ll be just right.

    Yeah he's just got another job, it wouldn't affect anything in terms of Bond. Might even help him not to be in another spy series. He's not a bad actor at all, I wouldn't rule him out. I think his career needs a bit of a kick though: he's in danger of going down with those dreadful X Men films.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Couldn't disagree more, I'm afraid. Solomon Lane is the best villain in all the Mi franchise. Written through is actions and a very apt mythological construction which relies on absence and cruelty. Sean Harris made it whole, of course. A brilliant character.

    Agreed. 100%.

    Second only to Hoffman's villain, for me.

    Oh, yes. Can you imagine those two working together? I'd be afraid. Very afraid :)

    Quite the clash of egos it would be!

    I often watch this opening if I'm writing scenes with hints of villainy. Hoffman does a lot here without doing very much at all. He interrogates Ethan with his eyes. Also, just a great introduction scene in general.

    What a cool scene. It's both frustrating and compelling to watch Ethan stubbornly resisting to choose between "the girl or the mission". And how he repeatedly forces himself to calm down when trying to persuade Davian of not hurting his wife, hoping he'll show a hint of mercy, while Davian is in a completely different state of mind. It really feels like when sometimes one talks to people who are absolutely beyond any persuasion in their ideas, who are as immovable as a rock. Fine acting by Seymour Hoffman and Cruise.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,718
    Mission: Impossible 2 was released 20 years ago today, on May 24th 2000.

    Tom-Cruise-in-Mission-Impossible-2.jpg
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,978
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Mission: Impossible 2 was released 20 years ago today, on May 24th 2000.

    Tom-Cruise-in-Mission-Impossible-2.jpg

    Jesus! Those 20 years went by fast.
  • BonSimonLeBon_1BonSimonLeBon_1
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Mission: Impossible 2 was released 20 years ago today, on May 24th 2000.

    Tom-Cruise-in-Mission-Impossible-2.jpg

    Man that makes me feel old!
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