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  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    I couldn't agree more @mtm with everything you said.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I buy Ethan and Ilsa as more of couple than Hunt and his wife in MI3. They've strayed away from any real romance since MI3, it'll be interesting to see how it ups the stakes

    The Bond producers must be gutted to lose out on Ferguson and Vanessa Kirby as well, two brilliant actors with great screen presence
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2022 Posts: 16,369
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I buy Ethan and Ilsa as more of couple than Hunt and his wife in MI3.

    Yes, although I think his wife was much improved in Fallout and became someone you could believe Ethan would fall in love with in that.
    The way MacQuarrie tidied her character away in his films was rather brilliantly satisfying, I thought. It's very clever how he reminds/tells the audience that Ethan has a wife in the opening dream sequence too (at the same time as establishing Ethan's nuclear fears and concerns over the villain; plus a dream sequence makes the fantasy flashforward where he murders a policeman in Paris acceptable to the audience in the style of the film - there's so much going on here!); I'm not sure the recent Bond films have always kept in mind that the audience might not remember, or even have seen, the previous film.
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I couldn't agree more @mtm with everything you said.

    Thanks buddy :)
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    mtm wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I buy Ethan and Ilsa as more of couple than Hunt and his wife in MI3.

    Yes, although I think his wife was much improved in Fallout and became someone you could believe Ethan would fall in love with in that.
    The way MacQuarrie tidied her character away in his films was rather brilliantly satisfying, I thought.

    Yep completely agree. I love the backstory they gave Julia, it was well thought out and satisfying. I like the idea that Ethan supposedly went rogue off screen
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2022 Posts: 16,369
    Julia! That's it, her name had escaped me :D

    Yes, he actually made it believable that these people would never meet again and be happy with that, whilst managing never to undermine his predecessor's work on the love plot of MI3. That's very skillful.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I wonder why they're reintroducing Kittridge after all this time. I enjoy the series and I can barely remember the character
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I wonder why they're reintroducing Kittridge after all this time. I enjoy the series and I can barely remember the character

    That's only because they had him manning a radar tower in Alaska for the last five films; they just mailed him his clothes.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited April 2022 Posts: 1,645
    I hate to say it, but I see Tom Holland as a MUCH better fit taking over for Cruise in MI than anything to do with Bond. Even more so than Uncharted. Not that we have to go there yet, or that it's what I want to happen. Just that I could see it happening.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    I hate to say it, but I see Tom Holland as a MUCH better fit taking over for Cruise in MI than anything to do with Bond. Even more so than Uncharted. Not that we have to go there yet, or that it's what I want to happen. Just that I could see it happening.

    Oh please no.

  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    talos7 wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    I hate to say it, but I see Tom Holland as a MUCH better fit taking over for Cruise in MI than anything to do with Bond. Even more so than Uncharted. Not that we have to go there yet, or that it's what I want to happen. Just that I could see it happening.

    Oh please no.

    He's basically a Cruise clone (not that I want to ever see Holland's Eyes Wide Shut, oh god).
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    I hate to say it, but I see Tom Holland as a MUCH better fit taking over for Cruise in MI than anything to do with Bond. Even more so than Uncharted. Not that we have to go there yet, or that it's what I want to happen. Just that I could see it happening.

    Oh please no.

    He's basically a Cruise clone (not that I want to ever see Holland's Eyes Wide Shut, oh god).

    Not even close.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I wonder why they're reintroducing Kittridge after all this time. I enjoy the series and I can barely remember the character

    I guess there will be a reason as McQ always seems to believe that old characters only work if the story supports them, but I guess if the IMF needs a boss figure it may as well be him as I’d argue he’s probably still the most memorable. And he survived, unlike some of the others! :)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    I hate to say it, but I see Tom Holland as a MUCH better fit taking over for Cruise in MI than anything to do with Bond. Even more so than Uncharted. Not that we have to go there yet, or that it's what I want to happen. Just that I could see it happening.

    That'd be a certified way to ensure I never watched another installment in the series. Dude's one of the least charismatic "stars" I've ever seen and one of the few actors whose works I actively try to avoid as often as possible.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    After Tom decides he has had enough, I think the films should end there. Then, maybe after a few years dust off the IP, as a team based TV series like the original show. Cruise has set the bar too high for someone else to take over, as the films currently stand.
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    Anyone remember the scene in Oceans Eleven where the team go their seperate ways? I would love to see something similar to end the Cruise era.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    They kind of do something like that in Ghost Protocol don't they?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited April 2022 Posts: 4,619
    talos7 wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    I hate to say it, but I see Tom Holland as a MUCH better fit taking over for Cruise in MI than anything to do with Bond. Even more so than Uncharted. Not that we have to go there yet, or that it's what I want to happen. Just that I could see it happening.

    Oh please no.

    He's basically a Cruise clone (not that I want to ever see Holland's Eyes Wide Shut, oh god).

    Not even close.

    Tom Holland is getting too overexposed, which arguably is going to hurt him soon. I’m tired of Hollywood casting and overhyping the MCU leads. A lot of them are one note actors. It’s like Chris Pratt (big shutters) taking over as Indiana Jones: there’s someone less hyped that can do it better. And if Tom Holland is trying to hard to copy another actor, it’s Michael J. Fox. Even he once said his Spider-Man is basically based on Marty McFly.

    As for MI, I wouldn’t be surprised if they did reboot it and make Jim Phelps the (good) team leader again.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    LucknFate underestimated the weird derision folks here feel for Tom Holland. Sort of like how many claimed Leonardo DiCaprio was the worst back in the 90s just because he was catapulted to teen heart throb like Holland is today.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    LucknFate underestimated the weird derision folks here feel for Tom Holland. Sort of like how many claimed Leonardo DiCaprio was the worst back in the 90s just because he was catapulted to teen heart throb like Holland is today.

    I'm feeling the same way, @MakeshiftPython. Leo, Pitt, Depp, Cruise, ... all went through that phase. Unless a "heartthrob" actor goes "art" with a respected director really fast, he'll have to bear the brunt of mockery for a while. It's almost a hazing ritual.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Must admit I didn’t know I was supposed to hate Holland! :) He seems fine to me, although his non-Spider career seems to be stalling.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    patb wrote: »
    Anyone remember the scene in Oceans Eleven where the team go their seperate ways? I would love to see something similar to end the Cruise era.

    That would be perfect. It was such a great way to end Ocean's 11

    Also good point @mtm I forgot they need a boss after Fallout
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    I would love an Ocean's 11 style ending for the second part, and I don't think think the cliffhanger in part 1 will be disappointing. I think Cruise and company know they need to make one really satisfying part 1, that feels like it's own movie in a way, and I'm sure they'll deliver.
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    I would love an Ocean's 11 style ending for the second part, and I don't think think the cliffhanger in part 1 will be disappointing. I think Cruise and company know they need to make one really satisfying part 1, that feels like it's own movie in a way, and I'm sure they'll deliver.

    I would like each member to depart and leave Ilsa and Ethan as the last two and the audience thinking will they leave together? A different type of cliff hanger
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Can someone please explain to me, like a baby, what "dead reckoning" means? I've run into the expression a few times in my life and I still don't get it.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Can someone please explain to me, like a baby, what "dead reckoning" means? I've run into the expression a few times in my life and I still don't get it.

    Originally it was a navigational term, determining the position of a ship or plane, just by using distance travelled and speed rather than using something like landmarks or stars.

    It's old fashioned term, what it means in relation to the film I have no idea
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Can someone please explain to me, like a baby, what "dead reckoning" means? I've run into the expression a few times in my life and I still don't get it.

    Originally it was a navigational term, determining the position of a ship or plane, just by using distance travelled and speed rather than using something like landmarks or stars.

    It's old fashioned term, what it means in relation to the film I have no idea

    Probably multiple meanings, including a hint as to the
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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Can someone please explain to me, like a baby, what "dead reckoning" means? I've run into the expression a few times in my life and I still don't get it.

    Originally it was a navigational term, determining the position of a ship or plane, just by using distance travelled and speed rather than using something like landmarks or stars.

    It's old fashioned term, what it means in relation to the film I have no idea

    I'm guessing it'll be more applicable to the former term there then, considering some of the other details I've heard about for both of these installments (will put it in spoiler tags in case some don't want to hear anything more):
    McQuarrie apparently had some submarine sequences for the eighth installment but went back and shot some extra stuff to ensure it was in this next one, too, so I'm guessing it may come into play with the villain's grand scheme or something.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited May 2022 Posts: 40,968
    Lorne Balfe confirmed the first teaser trailer was scored last week. Looks to be all-but-guaranteed this will drop alongside the release of Top Gun: Maverick this month:

  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited May 2022 Posts: 1,645
    I can't wait to hear it! I'm so rarely excited for new movie music. The trailers for 5 and 6 were incredible.
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