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During the press conference:
-So, Idris, what does it feel like to be the new Bond?
-Bond? No, I'm not playing Bond. I'm playing Sir Hilary Bray.
-(sigh and eyeroll) Okay, Idris, have it your way.
A Quebecois actress would be a nice change from all the French actresses.
😂 😂 😂
Oh I know what you guys mean.....
Yes, I mean a Canadian, yes, they speak French at some point, but they're still different from French People, right?
And do we even had a Canadian Bond Girl before? I bet we don't, so it's still a nice change.
No, just being a new type of movie with virtually no competition or similar franchises would make them successful, and they're classics as a result of staying in the public consciousness by having new movies every couple years for decades, and old guys who grew up with them writing about them all the time.
Whatev ! Just so long as it is understood that there exists some sort of international treaty, enforceable, apparently by death, never to set a Bond film in Canada ! Apparently, not in Australia or Aotearoa, either. There might be an exception to allow locating and filming in Tasmania, A TpDevil might be the new villain's favorite pet...Bond awakens from a stupor, stands up and brushes off his tuxedo, shoots his cuffs and sniffs his carnation. "You know," says Bond, "I recall where I lost consciousness, but confess you have me at a loss as to where I have awoken !" "Don't worry, Mr. Bond," says the villain, from across the room, petting a shocking silver Tasmanian Devil wearing a diamond necklace, "no matter what may happen in the next 30 minutes and what has transpired between us to date, I assure you that you have not awoken in Canada. Even I, Mr. Bond..." the villain sniffs, pauses and raises a glass of exceedingly rare and expensive wine to his mouth, before saying "...have my limits." "Aah, I must tell M next time I see him. I told him as much. Now he owes me dinner and a cheroot at his club !" "Next time you see M, Mr. Bond ?" queries the villain. "I'm afraid you assume too much. And you know, Mr. Bond, what happens when you ASSUME ? I assure you - I do not care what you make of yourself, but you will not make an Ass out of me !" Bond smiles, and then says "So says the person petting a Tasmanian devil with a dye job, a rhinestone necklace and an overpriced bottle of Trader Joe's finest !"
No, no, please continue with the Italy. ;)
They could make a film where Bond just sits at a cafe next to Lake Como for 2.5 hours and I'd watch it.
It’d better be in Stainless Steel!
You're a dreamer.
But I honestly also want to see it for its value as a film. Along with Bertolucci's The Last Emperor and Tragedy of a Ridiculous Man.
And yeah, yeah, for Eva Green, no shame in admitting it.
All kidding aside, I'm sure it's a pretty excellent film. I need to get around to seeing it in full sometime soon.
I have seen The Last Emperor and thought it was great.
Sorry, I'll stop running this thread off track now.
For instance, treat the events similarly to the death of Thomas & Martha Wayne in The Batman. We don’t see the murders as they’ve been done, and done well, several times and have a lot of familiarity with general audiences. Still, the event is referenced and is an important piece of the emotional stakes of the story as well as the development of Bruce/Batman as a character. In fact, it even manages to put lend some fresh context to the canon established in several Batman films. In Bond’s case, the Casino Royale film and novel, the On Her Majesty’s Secret Service film and novel (Spectre/No Time to Die as more contemporary reinterpretations) serve as good in-depth reference points.
By adopting this approach and leaning on the knowledge of the past films a bit you can; firstly, retain the benefits of rebooting with a new actor and “clean slate”. Secondly, you establish some of the complex motivations and gravitas behind the character, without spending entire films (or multiple films) telling the “Becoming Bond” stories.
That said, I’d like to see the death of Bond’s parents, his upbringing/youth, and his Naval service explored onscreen in the upcoming reboot. I feel that they’re formative events that could still be depicted compellingly onscreen without totally demystifying the character. I actually think it would add something fresh to the series.
This is a good idea.
Not contentious at all I don't think. In fact, incorporating both Vesper and Tracy into the history of the next Bond would be a very good way to move forward.
I like the comparisons with Batman. I do think an important aspect of Bond is the fact that he's had a few tragedies in his life. Obviously they really leaned into this in the Craig era/went down the more Byronic hero route, but it's always been there to one extent or the other.
I'd say if they were going for a younger version of Bond this time round, then Tracy and the events of OHMSS aren't required, but Vesper is another story. I'm not sure if I'd want to see it referenced in depth as it's very much still on people's minds after the Craig era, but something not unlike the moment in TWINE where Elektra asks Bond if he's ever lost someone and Bond gives an indirect answer could be effective.
I'd like to see Bond's naval service referenced too. I don't particularly want to see a whole film with Bond before he was 007/in the navy, but rather include a scene where perhaps Bond has to meet up with an ally he knew from his navy days or he simply shows expertise about some sort of naval/operation tactic.
Just have him already be a 00 and move on with the story with a younger Bond.
There are archetypal expectations for this character. Take those and spin it so it feels unique to the new era.
It’s all in the execution. But trying to keep anything specifically from the Craig era and continuing it into the new era will fail (no origin story; new actors in roles that will return, no Madeleine, no Vesper, no Skyfall lodge….; DB5? Maybe/sure; tuxedos and great suits; hedonism via sex and drink and fast cars; a man of risks and danger— yes, yes, yes and yes)
Give me something new. A new Bond, M, Moneypenny. All new.