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The What If Thread..For Other Movies. What if someone else directed Star Wars Episode 1?
MaxCasino
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After seeing the What If thread for James Bond, I figured that we should start a thread for movies in general. I'll start:
What if Tom Selleck played Indiana Jones?
What if Tom Selleck played Indiana Jones?
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I like to think that this was a case of the casting working for both. I can't picture another Thomas Magnum than Selleck and Jones will always be Ford. Could have Selleck nailed the part? Perhaps it was a great script and certainly would have worked with another actor, but Ford had that certain something and really owned the part from the beginning. They say bond actors take a few films to get comfy in the role, Ford showed that you can nail a character out of the gate.
Agreed.
Also agreed.
My next subject is what if Colin Trevorrow directed Star Wars Episode 9: Duel of the Fates?
At least it would not be Episode 8.
On paper it seems better than what we actually got, although I've not read the actual script myself.
Personally, I'm not all that fond of Trevorrow as a director. At best I find his films average, and at worst misjudged and even incompetent. I can't see his Duel of Fates being a masterpiece simply because of this, but it may have been slightly more satisfying than Rise of Skywalker.
I would gladly take what Trevorrow over JJ but in fairness JJ had a very unenviable task of cleaning up TLJ and I don't think he can be heavily faulted.
I must admit though, one of the biggest problems is that both JJ Abrams and Colin Treverrow are, in my opinion anyway, rather bland filmmakers, and Johnson is one who's more willing to experiment. I suppose you can argue that for The Force Awakens someone like Abrams was needed to get the trilogy going. It's enjoyable enough, although for me feels like a duller remake of the original films and I'd argue is even forgettable because of this... but I'm not much of a Star Wars fan.
Also, I'm probably in the minority by thinking that The Last Jedi is the most interesting of those three movies. It's not perfect by any means, but I appreciate what it was trying to do (stuff like Luke becoming this cynical recluse and having to 'rediscover' himself makes sense to me on paper, and I like the revelation that Rey's parents are in fact 'nobodies' and I find it bizarre that this was retconned in the next one).
Yes, it's true that Palpatine turning out to be Rey's granddaughter feels weird as Mod edit, but i feel people give a lot of Mod edit to Palpatine returning as a clone when the Expanded Legends Universe did it decades before, still, that sOmEhOw is unforgivable.
Mabey he died of drugs like Monroe / Elvis. Mabey he even play with them in movie or take all parts that Elvis, Clint Eastwood or Steve Mcqueen get. Or imagine him in Ocean's 11 insteed of Sinatra or he get cameo in DAF or OHMSS.
I could see him pulling off a early Felix Leiter. I could see him in a action scene as Leiter.
I wonder if those are real mod edits, or you're doing what I once thought of, and using that phrase as a "legal" curse word. Anyway, I don't want us to get into trouble, so I'll just shut the Mod Edit up.
Just to get the thread back to its topic, sales of Porsche 550 Spyders might have skyrocketed if he had survived the crash.
I do think we would have gotten at least one more great performance out of him though. As iconic as his three roles are, I always feel they're the work of a young actor still finding his footing. Unfortunately he never quite got to the heights of Brando in something like On The Waterfront for me.
I believe Dean wouldn't be the icon he is to this very day. The longer you live the less special your work would feel and appear. Imagine him having a tone of films, there would be turkeys in the mix for sure. As it is Dean is an icon, stars in just three films that showcase his considerable talent and dies young. So if he lived I think he wouldn't have as much an impact on society!
Older actors tend to do TV work. Prior to the internet and streaming apps, Charlton Heston ended up appearing on tv soap The Colbys. Heston was a major league film star back in his prime. Sylvestor Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Harrison Ford, Pierce Brosnan all done recent TV work. All former film stars.
It would have been strange to see a 70 year old James Dean doing TV soaps or streaming TV shows.
Speaking of sinking stars and epic films, what if Heaven's Gate had been a hit critically and financially right away? Where would have Michael Cimino gone to in his career? What would have been United Artists fate? Sound off what you think!
One of the most interesting takes on Cimino comes, from all places, from Christopher Lambert, who starred in The Sicilian. Lambert regards Cimino as the most gifted filmmaker from the New Hollywood era. Cimino was a great writer, production designer, director, etc. But the problem was that, being great at everything, he didn't want to delegate, which is a necessity when you direct a film. So, he would play a lot of mind games and he was paranoid, and he was in a way self-destructive. His career wouldn't have played out much differently.
But, if Heaven's Gate had been a hit, as a few people have mentioned on this place, United Artists would have been flush with money, and the budget on For Your Eyes Only would have been higher. The "back to basics" approach wasn't ultimately that much of a creative choice, but rather the consequence of the financial situation at UA.
This makes me wonder last night and I just want answers!
I've wondered about The Avengers starring Steed and Peel last night, when they could get the due for a reboot today?
I think if the Avengers 1998 with Thurman, Fiennes and Connery had been a hit, there's a chance.
I've also made a research that Shane Black had penned a Reboot for The Avengers TV, and it's 2019, but since then, there's no news regarding that, it's seemed that it never came to fruition, maybe because of the bad image of it coming from 1998 film affected the development of it?
You can also state the possible reason why there's still no news regarding that Shane Black Reboot.
So now, I'm wondering, what if The Avengers 1998 had been a hit, both commercially and financially? Would there be a chance for The Avengers to get its reboot due today? Would there be a franchise?
I can change the title later on today. In the future, please message me if you have suggestions for this thread. Don’t just takeover the thread at random, please.
As for The Avengers, it probably could have been a franchise. The 60s were a popular nostalgic trend in the 90s, with Bond and Mission Impossible working with some modern day changes. I also don’t want Shane Black involved with established franchises. Iron Man 3 is still cringeworthy… but speaking of the MCU, Avengers Assemble would have to be it’s worldwide title.
All is forgiven. Your what if is interesting. Also, Sir Sean Connery might not have retired so soon.
In the commentary he says he might have done a third film and maybe Mankiewicz could have directed the fourth.
It would have been interesting to see what Mankiewicz would have come up with. Keep in mind, 1 and 2 were basically his rewrites of existing scripts. Would he have been able to deliver a Superman script from the ground up? It’s an interesting what if.
Another way of hypothesizing is looking at another franchise that Donner actually started and finished: LETHAL WEAPON 1-4. Could his SUPERMAN III had lived up to his first two films or would it have been seen as a disappointing follow up?
Superman 3’s success would have depended on the screenplay. I know Donner wanted to have Brainiac and Bizarro as villains, at some point. Ilya Salkind wanted Brainiac, Mr. Mxyzptlk and Supergirl. Ilya wrote a climax that is very similar to Avengers Endgame at certain points! Alas, nobody won with the Superman 3 that we got.
Continuing with Superman, here’s another big what if: Tim Burton's "Superman Lives" Was Released in 1998? Courtesy of @TheSkyfallen06 I have a few ideas! Let’s hear your predictions!
Alright, this isn’t taking off. So here’s a new one: What If Pierce Brosnan played Bruce Wayne in Batman 89'?
Broz Wayne: "Huh?"
Joker: "I always ask that of all my prey. I just like the sound of it."
Broz Wayne: