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Would you rather a PTS with a big stunt or action piece OR a more grounded PTS?

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Solitaire…. but I would catch the earliest flight to the Bahamas, or Switzerland or…
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Oh, playing Solitaire, no contest! Plenty of lessons to be learned, after all.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    If I'm honest .... neither really!
    But if you put a gun to my head, I guess I would pick Tiffany Case.

    @thedove, can I cheat and take Kara to The French Quarter? :D
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Can I bend the rules a little and take Solitaire to Vegas? I won't need the RPM controller ring.
  • Scaramanga1974Scaramanga1974
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    Tiffany Case was turned into a silly bimbo so Solitaire any day. If she plays her cards right!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Tiffany Case was turned into a silly bimbo so Solitaire any day. If she plays her cards right!

    That gave me a nice chuckle, the way you ended your post 👍🏻 😂 👍🏻 😂!
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Sorry to all U.S. citizens/residents, but Tiffany is just too American-style gung-ho superficial, artificial and money-oriented for me. That being said, I'm not sure I could live with a girl believing superstitiously in her own psychic powers, but hey! we know she can be converted...so it's Solitaire for me as well.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Dwayne wrote: »
    If I'm honest .... neither really!
    But if you put a gun to my head, I guess I would pick Tiffany Case.

    @thedove, can I cheat and take Kara to The French Quarter? :D

    This organization isn't concerned with your personal affairs! LOL!

    Go ahead and get creative!
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I'm feeling musical and Italian! ;)

    Would you rather listen to the soundtrack of FYEO OR LTK?

    Both feature composers who filled in when Barry wasn't available. Both have distinct styles. Which one are you most likely to stream or pop into the player to listen to?
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Both are trash. But LTK is less trash so LTK
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    This might be a Sophie's choice! I lean more towards the early 80's than the late 80's so I am running away with FYEO! LOL!
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited July 5 Posts: 9,509
    LTK... Had a little too much LW/DH sound to it, but incorporated an interesting and at times, Bondian sound. Special mention to the gunbarrel.

    Too much disco-cheese in FYEO, for me.

    LTK for the listen.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    I’m going with LTK.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
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    I’m going for LTK too.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I'd say there are one or two highlights in FYEO that trump anything in LTK, but overall I find the latter to be a better score.

    Kamen's muscular approach to the whole thing complimented the meaner streak that the whole film had. Hand, glove, etc.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    edited July 5 Posts: 2,148
    LTK’s score is not a particularly great one, but compared to FYEO it’s Rachmaninoff.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Tough question for me as I listen to both scores a lot recently, LTK wins just.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited July 5 Posts: 7,021
    I'd rather listen to FYEO. It's more melodic and thus more up my alley than the more textural Licence to Kill. I also find it more exciting. But LTK too is a good score: moody, restless, unnerving. And in the crucial moments, Kamen plays the hell out of the Bond Theme.

    But back to FYEO. Forget about disco for a moment and listen to:

    - The explosive gunbarrel music
    - The striking Russian-flavored cue that introduces Moscow
    - The dramatic Greek-style music that underscores the death of the Havelocks
    - The Bondian flamboyance of the Spain piece
    - The astonishing degree of inventiveness of Ski...Shoot...Jump, with its varied percussion and that piano/synth motif
    - The mesmerizing beauty of the Corfu cue (the music works so well with the gorgeous cinematography, or by itself)
    -     The moving instrumentals of the main theme heard in the sleigh scene and the terrace scene
    - The drama of the warehouse attack cue, which holds you in suspense while almost creating the illusion of musical slow motion (once again, the piece works so well against the film, or by itself)
    - The stately beauty of the music that introduces St. Cyril...
    - The exciting drama and rich and varied instrumentation of the climbing music

    (Thanks to bcalou for the reconstructions of certain cues)
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    It's funny, I previously couldn't get into these two Bond scores at the same time, but I started loving them at the same time three years ago. But I'll just go with LTK. Kamen's score is as pulsating as the film, especially his take on the Bond theme.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Some are certainly better than others, but honestly I enjoy every single EON Bond film’s soundtrack as a collective whole.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Some are certainly better than others, but honestly I enjoy every single EON Bond film’s soundtrack as a collective whole.

    Yeah. That's the idea.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    No idea. It's time for me to revisit ltk.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    As much as I love the Barry scores, I also love the one time composers with their unique Bond sounds.

    For this one I'll go for the disco sounds of Conti's FYEO, even though I also love Kamen's Latin motives for LTK.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 6 Posts: 16,428
    Neither are bad scores, but I find FYEO gets my blood pumping a bit more and has the wide variety of melody and excitement I want from a Bond score. Yes, you have to get past the slightly cheesy feel, but it's not like that makes Rocky a bad score. LTK is maybe a slightly less interesting listen for me.

    I do love John Barry of course, but I always think it's interesting how the alternate composers maybe could get a bit more dynamism and punchiness into the Bond sound than he did, especially at any point after say OHMSS, which I think both of these display.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited July 7 Posts: 7,021
    mtm wrote: »
    I do love John Barry of course, but I always think it's interesting how the alternate composers maybe could get a bit more dynamism and punchiness into the Bond sound than he did, especially at any point after say OHMSS, which I think both of these display.
    I was thinking something along those lines yesterday. As he went along, Barry became almost a composer of anti-action music for action scenes. There are exceptions, of course, but this was a significant trend. Sometimes defiantly slow, emphasizing more the drama of the situation than the kinetics. Very different from someone like Bill Conti. But frankly, I think the seeds of Barry's later style were there from the very beginning. In retrospect, I think it's fair to say Barry always was an "introspective" composer, whereas Conti is an "extrovert".
  • BT3366BT3366
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    I've enjoyed FYEO's score since it came out. It's just very listenable whereas Kamen's score is just a bunch of guitar and cues that get overly bombastic and is the beginning of, in my opinion, the slide of the Bond soundtracks post Barry into being less unique and more droning music that goes nowhere, with a few exceptions, but even I'm warming a bit to Serra's GE score.

    A further question - in criticisms of Conti's score I almost always see the disco influence as a negative of those who don't like it. As mattjoes said above, it goes beyond that, but on the disco front, why is it Conti's gets singled out like this when Marvin Hamlisch has said the Bee Gees influenced his score for TSWLM and I rarely see anybody use that as a point in not liking the score. I actually like it as well.

    My vote: FYEO.

  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited July 7 Posts: 25,178
    I love the music when Bond and Felix sky dive to the wedding, such an awesome scene.

    This track from FYEO is great...
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited July 7 Posts: 3,789
    LTK, some scores in FYEO just undermines any scene that should be serious or suspenseful (the Car Chase in Spain in the beginning, or the Ski Chase in Cortina) scenes that should be thrilling and tense, but became novelties because of the scores undermining such scenes, talk about scores that cheapened the scenes.

    LTK wins this by far, for me!

    At least Kamen's score didn't ruined any scenes in the film.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 7 Posts: 16,428
    Gosh, I think the car and ski chases are made really exciting by their scores, not undermined in the least. Runaway is dated, sure, but it's a proper upbeat, thrilling bit of music. Whenever I've been skiing I always think I'll be humming OHMSS to myself, but it's Runaway every time!
    And with the car chase, when the triumphant trumpets of the Bond theme come in it's just brilliant stuff.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Not overly fussed about a lot of the chase music in FYEO, but 'Submarine' and pretty much all of the music that accompanies the St Cyril's climb is wonderful.
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