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  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    thedove wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Is it me or there's a tension in that Goldfinger golf scene? Like there's the danger lingering around that scene? It's like one move against Goldfinger and he would order Oddjob to kill you, that's what I've felt while watching the film, I've felt the danger that Bond might experience if he did at least one wrong move, it's obvious that the scene was not in Bond's control, but Goldfinger.

    The scene with Kamal Khan at the backgammon game, on the other hand, was just pure fun, no tension at all, even there's Gobinda, but no tension at all, it's all played for fun and the atmosphere was relaxed, no tension, nor danger lingering around, it's the scene where I don't feel Bond was going to die at any minute he make a wrong move, and since Bond was also in control of the time.

    I don't know, it might be my personal feeling, but I don't know, but the golf scenes are serious for me, full of tension and lingering danger, unlike the Backgammon which was just for fun.

    I agree with you. I forget which director I saw said the golf game scenes were wonderful and added so much to the characters and the plot. He went on to say that for today's action film audiences they'd never sit through scenes like that. He stated that today's audiences want their action. I agree with @Ludovico it has been a hallmark of the series to have these quiet moments leading up to the big action set pieces. This one set the standard.

    I have golfed but never played backgammon so I am heading to the links with Goldfinger and Oddjob. Hopefully I can get Hawker to carry for me and we might just show those 2 rascals how to cheat ethically! LOL!

    Yes, and now I know, Goldfinger is a threatening villain too.
    Even in the card game scene in Miami, there's also a threat, like every character that Auric would encounter, there's a lingering threat and danger.
    So, that Golf scene, is actually one of those.

    Goldfinger is a scary villain, like we audiences, would be scared to know more of what he could do.
    It's the what the later villains lacked, with and exception of maybe Savalas' Blofeld or Sanchez, but those in between, were all played with fun (even Scaramanga), the air of danger, menace and threat, like you might feel scared when a villain (like Goldfinger) would encounter some characters.

    And that Golf scene speaks to that.
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Is it me or there's a tension in that Goldfinger golf scene? Like there's the danger lingering around that scene? It's like one move against Goldfinger and he would order Oddjob to kill you, that's what I've felt while watching the film, I've felt the danger that Bond might experience if he did at least one wrong move, it's obvious that the scene was not in Bond's control, but Goldfinger.

    The scene with Kamal Khan at the backgammon game, on the other hand, was just pure fun, no tension at all, even there's Gobinda, but no tension at all, it's all played for fun and the atmosphere was relaxed, no tension, nor danger lingering around, it's the scene where I don't feel Bond was going to die at any minute he make a wrong move, and since Bond was also in control of the time.

    I don't know, it might be my personal feeling, but I don't know, but the golf scenes are serious for me, full of tension and lingering danger, unlike the Backgammon which was just for fun.

    I agree with you. I forget which director I saw said the golf game scenes were wonderful and added so much to the characters and the plot. He went on to say that for today's action film audiences they'd never sit through scenes like that. He stated that today's audiences want their action. I agree with @Ludovico it has been a hallmark of the series to have these quiet moments leading up to the big action set pieces. This one set the standard.

    I have golfed but never played backgammon so I am heading to the links with Goldfinger and Oddjob. Hopefully I can get Hawker to carry for me and we might just show those 2 rascals how to cheat ethically! LOL!

    Yes, and now I know, Goldfinger is a threatening villain too.
    Even in the card game scene in Miami, there's also a threat, like every character that Auric would encounter, there's a lingering threat and danger.
    So, that Golf scene, is actually one of those.

    Goldfinger is a scary villain, like we audiences, would be scared to know more of what he could do.
    It's the what the later villains lacked, with and exception of maybe Savalas' Blofeld or Sanchez, but those in between, were all played with fun (even Scaramanga), the air of danger, menace and threat, like you might feel scared when a villain (like Goldfinger) would encounter some characters.

    And that Golf scene speaks to that.

    That's another thing as well: if you want your villain to be menacing and scary, make sure he comes off as such not only when he's using a gun, firing a rocket or wielding an axe or a sword. He needs to be threatening playing golf, cards, or petting a cat.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Okay lets start to think about Bond 26. For this would you rather lets consider the people who write the scripts! For many years now Purvis and Wade have had their fingers on almost every Bond film that has come out. Some praise their work and their knowledge of Fleming as a real strength. Barbara and Michael seem to use them to polish up work or to provide those Bondian elements that might be missing.

    However since we have a blank canvas for the coming film since a new actor is stepping up. I shall pose this one:

    Would you rather Purvis and Wade return to write Bond 26 OR should new scriptwriters be brought on board to write Bond 26?

    Bonus points if you can suggest someone who might be a good choice for Bond26!
  • “ Bonus points if you can suggest someone who might be a good choice for Bond26!”

    Nolan.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I know it's an entirely different beast and he's very much lesser known in the business but Scott Ryan of Mr. Inbetween fame is an excellent writer who seems to have a real passion for Bond. I'd love a reality where he got a chance to write the script.
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    New. P&W keep retreading too much ground.
  • Posts: 15,097
    Ideally I'd rather have new scriptwriters, but then again be careful what you wish for... we could end up with worse. Maybe find someone old teaming up with someone new?
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    New. Purvis & Wade deserve to take a break.
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    I'd like it to be writers. Not Purvis & Wade.

    ;)
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ideally I'd rather have new scriptwriters, but then again be careful what you wish for... we could end up with worse. Maybe find someone old teaming up with someone new?

    At this point, nothing needs to change more in Bond films than the writing. Enough with Purvis and Wade, that was one regret that DC didn't get a screenplay not written by them.
    New. Purvis & Wade deserve to take a break.
    FoxRox wrote: »
    New. P&W keep retreading too much ground.

    Yes, even Richard Maibaum took breaks.
  • edited September 2023 Posts: 4,089
    I mean, if P&W write Bond 26 we could still potentially get new writers who do later drafts. That’s how these things tend to work….

    As for future writers, I guess Krysty Wilson-Carins, Gillian Flynn, Emerald Fennell, Dennis Kelley, Scott Ryan (as another poster said I’ve noticed he’s a Bond fan too)…. Many people could hypothetically do it.
  • Would you rather bungee off the dam in Goldeneye or jump off the bridge in No time to die?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, if P&W write Bond 26 we could still potentially get new writers who do later drafts. That’s how these things tend to work….

    As for future writers, I guess Krysty Wilson-Carins, Gillian Flynn, Emerald Fennell, Dennis Kelley, Scott Ryan (as another poster said I’ve noticed he’s a Bond fan too)…. Many people could hypothetically do it.

    Yes, other writers could do it. Michael Arndt, who has blockbuster, comedy, sequel and a bit of art-house writing experience. And he's been successful at all of them.

    I know that I don't want Chris Terrio writing it. He's a one hit wonder, with his Oscar for Argo. While Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker weren't his fault, I'd feel safer without him.

    Maybe David Koepp. Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely would be great as well.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    No more Purvis & Wade. After the mess that was DAD, they sort of redeemed themselves with CR. But no, I think there must be other screenwriters out there.
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
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    It's not so much, do we want them to write Bond 26. That's up to the producers.
    However they should avoid this Escher guy as production designer.
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  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Yet they brought them in for Skyfall and I believe NTTD? I know that Michael and Barbara both seem to think these guys understand the character and trust them to find the Fleming moments in the films. To me they have a spotty record and I think it's time for fresh faces all around.

    On the last edition of James Bond and Friends they mentioned that Nolan was rumoured to be in the directors chair. If that does indeed happen, he will become the next screenwriter.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Would you rather bungee off the dam in Goldeneye or jump off the bridge in No time to die?

    Good one! I shall make it our next one to consider! Send me a PM if you have others!
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    edited September 2023 Posts: 667
    I say keep them. They know their Fleming and I think they've had some strong ideas. Not always well executed, but I think they're a solid base from which other writers can build from.
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    I've read before P&W know their Bond. But as they've only written one Bond film based on Fleming material (I don't count QoS), I'm not sure what it is they know that others wouldn't know by having seen past films and reading the novels.

    I don't question their talent. I would like to see new writers reanimate the series that captures the flavor of the original films but does so in a contemporary way. Along the lines of Strange New Worlds creating that original Star Trek vibe.



  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Yes I don't think a new team or screen writer might be able to breathe some new life into things. Especially since the Fleming cupboard is rather light and new ideas are going to be needed for the next fella!

    Okay lets move on to another topic!

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    Would you rather do the bungee jump from GE OR the bridge jump from NTTD?

    The bungee jump created a world record I believe and does take your breath away when Bond performs the jump. It reminds me of something Tom would do in MI series. The silence while the jump happens adds to the moment.

    The bridge jump comes out of nowhere as Bond is scrambling to escape SPECTRE agents. While not as tall as the bungee, you would be without a cord and there is going to be a feeling of flight.

    So would you rather do the bungee jump or the bridge jump?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I hate heights so I'll choose death.

    If I had to pick, the nostalgic GE-obsessed fan in me would go with the bungee jump. What an experience that would be. However, the bridge jump in NTTD seems "easier" to manage (albeit not as locked in and secure as you'd be in the bungee jump, if we're going off the actual stunt itself and not the behind-the-scenes safety measures that were taken and digitally edited out).
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited September 2023 Posts: 6,272
    GE. It looked a lot more fun. NTTD's stunt just looks painful.
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    You can do the Goldeneye jump for real on the dam, so it would have to be that.
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    Frankly, I've seen the GE jump so many times that, by now, it would be a breeze ;)
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I hate heights so I'll choose death.
    Then death it is. By falling.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Catching up on these.

    modern era novel > Fleming era - either work for me but a recent story keeps Bond feeling relevant.
    train > jet - Many fond childhood memories of travelling by train. No memories of the other.
    golf > backgammon - I played golf several times when I was 11-12yo, it's a great game, and really not that hard to pick up.
    P+W > new scriptwriters - You'll get other scriptwriters coming in regardless, I would think, and I've never had an issue with P+W staying on.
    bungee jump > bridge jump - the bungee is safer - the other, you'd likely lose hold of the cable when it pulls tight or have it snap.
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    I'll go for the bungee jump in GE just because it looks safer. Yes, I'm a wuss.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I hate heights so I'll choose death.
    Then death it is. By falling.

    How could you do this to me?
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    It's a long video, but you get to see the whole experience and it does seem quite wonderful!

  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    The bridge jump in NTTD, no doubt. It was instinctive and it doesn't seem as daunting.

    The thing that makes the bungee jump so daunting is those few few seconds when Michaels stands there, every time I watch Goldeneye I hold my breath. Wonderful stunt
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