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As much i like Brosnan, i think that the real problem with his portrayal was that he tried so hard to emane Connery and Moore vibes that forgot to make the role his own.
If that's the case, then I agree. Fifth Brozza film it is!
Meanwhile, in a perfect world, we also would've gotten two more Dalton films in '91 and '93.
I'm not a greedy person, I want 2 extra Dalton films.
Between a 5th Brosnan, and Craig stopping at 4, i'm going with Craig stopping at 4/ending his run with SP.
I do find myself drooling while enjoying the PTS.
Yep!
I'd definitely disagree with that. It's one of the weakest by far (not the worst to me) but it has its moments, particularly the PTS, a large portion of the Cuba sequences, the fight at Blades, and that blazing ice chase between Bond and Zao, along with some other smaller moments. I've always really loved Bond's re-introduction to MI6 via the virtual reality shootout.
Yep, for me too. I can always not watch Dan’s last, even though I love its first third and will always come back to watch it up until Bond goes to London. But Pierce would’ve been great in a 5th more grounded film, with his matador hair, TTOP swagger and TCA flair.
I couldn’t agree more.
I am always proud of myself when I can pose a tricky one for these would you rathers!
This! With an adult Bond novel between 2002 and 2008. However, I consider Everything or Nothing PB's fifth and final adventure, while considering it canon with the movie's floating timeline. Same with DC and Bloodstone, between QOS and SF. So just narrowly PB's TRUE 5th movie.
+1. Great minds think alike, Major. I would've been content to have Craig's tenure end with his Bond driving out of MI6 HQ in the Aston Martin with Madeleine and leaving what happened next to them and Blofeld/Oberhauser to the imagination of the viewer.
I think of MR(and for that matter its fellow Lewis Gilbert-directed outer-space themed film YOLT also) as more Derek Flint than Matt Helm since Flint did go into outer space and battled enemy HQ located inside a volcano:
Blame(or credit?) George Lucas for that one. Which brings a potential future question to mind: would critics of Bond going into outer space in MR be willing to sacrifice the existence of Star Wars to prevent Bond's traveling into outer space from ever having happened?
I disagree with that, while yes, it's one of the lesser Bond films (also not a fan of it), but it's still had redeeming qualities (well, as any of the Bond films are), there's the PTS, Zao, Miranda Frost, and there are elements of the Moonraker book/novel in it, and Brosnan was still in top form.
Personally, I'd rather a fifth Brosnan film, but it really depends on what we would have gotten. If I'm honest the idea of some sort of 'course correction' after DAD involving him doesn't particularly sound appealing, especially if it was intended to be more 'grounded' and 'serious'. I'd argue the Brosnan era fell apart during TWINE when they tried to lean into the more drama heavy ideas (I like Brosnan, but to be honest compared to Craig he wasn't anywhere near strong enough an actor to carry that, and the writers were never able to effectively hone these ideas during his tenure). When we did get interesting character moments from his Bond it was within an ultimately quite fantastical adventure, and there was definitely a sense that his performances worked better when he was understated. If we got something along the lines of EoN it could have worked I guess - enough character drama to hold audience interest, an understated Brosnan performance (not the bizarre soap opera rubbish he's doing in TWINE), a strong supporting cast, but something ultimately fantastical with enough escapism to hold it together.
+1. It seems most users here read it as "either a fifth Brosnan film or No Time To Die", which really speaks about people's reading comprehension.
I can't see any reason to ask for fewer Bond films. Even the worst Bond movies still offer something good and a reason to exist. Die Another Day is mostly awful and I skip it during most of my Bondathons, but there's some really good scenes in there (sometimes I just watch it until Bond reaches Iceland and turn it off just before the Ice Palace).
A fifth Brosnan movie AND a fifth Craig movie is a win-win for me.
As for having one less Bond film, I'm not so sure. Daniel is my favourite Bond and as much I'm disappointed with NTTD, I was desperate for him to come back after Spectre. I needed at least one more film of him as that version of his Bond. He wasn't a rookie, wasn't past it, he was prime Bond in Spectre. I'd rather NTTD come out sooner and had been a better film, in my opinion.
Yeah, I definitely misunderstood this. jw_pepper lays it out very clearly with the number of films. It's very easy to say then that I would take the fifth Brosnan film. Far preferable to losing NTTD, which I have no particular desire to lose. The more the merrier.
Have Brosnan do his fifth film (though preferred it to be a semi adaptation of a Fleming novel, because he had no Fleming material to worked with in his tenure, almost all of his films were original EON scripts, but none came from a Fleming book).
Have Craig do another Bond film (the film is a sequel of No Time To Die, showing what happened to Bond after the events on Safin's island 😅).
And I doubt a Craig sequel would look in any way credible regarding his survival considering the massive missile attack on Safin's island. He is dead for good, period.
(Raises a glass)
To James......