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The theories of Bond films! Why did Tiger film the "Ocean drop" for Bond and Aki?

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  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Lets stay in the 60's and consider another action that a character took.

    Mr. Solo has decided to not join in on Operation Grand Slam. OddJob is tasked with driving him to the airport. But as all the other gangsters have been eliminated the same fate must happen to Solo too. OddJob uses a gun and kills Mr. Solo in the back seat of the car. Understanding that Goldfinger doesn't wish for dead bodies on his stud farm OddJob must dispose of the body. He promptly drives to a car wrecker and proceeds to smash the car and the gold bullion in the trunk.

    Why? Why not remove the gold from the trunk and then smush the car? Why a car wrecker at all? Does Goldfinger own the wreckers and they are following orders?

    So many questions here, would love to hear some theories on why OddJob smashes the car at the wreckers?

  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited March 12 Posts: 14,906
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    Homing bullet. SPECTRE have their own Q-Branch, you know.
    How bullets work. And "George".
    Crossroads
    Songwriters: Tom Waits / William S. Burroughs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUHgqSCS6tY&list=RDUUHgqSCS6tY&start_radio=1

    Now, George was a good straight boy to begin with,
    but there was bad blood In him; someway
    he got into the magic bullets and that leads
    straight to Devil's work, just like marijuana leads to heroin;

    you think you can take Them bullets or leave 'em, do you?
    Just save a few for your bad days
    Well, now, we all have those bad days when you can't shoot for shit.
    The more of them magics you use,
    the more bad days you have without them

    So it comes down finally to all your days
    being bad without the bullets
    It's magics or nothing
    Time to stop chippying around and kidding yourself,
    Kid, you're hooked, heavy as lead

    And that's where old George found himself
    Out there at the crossroads
    Molding the Devil's bullets
    Now a man figures it's his bullets, so it will
    Hit what he wants to hit
    But it don't always work that way
    You see, some bullets is special for a single aim
    A certain stag, or a certain person
    And no matter where you are, that's where the bullet will end up
    And in the moment of aiming, the gun turns into a dowser's wand
    And point where the bullet wants to go
    ...
    I guess old George didn't rightly know what he's getting himself into
    The fit was on him and it carried him
    right to the crossroads

    Nice one @RichardTheBruce. Love me a bit of Tom Waits. A bit of 'What's He Building Down There?'; a bit of 'Downtown Train.' Don't think I'd heard Crossroads though.
    thedove wrote: »
    How did Mi6 arrange the "killing" of Bond in YOLT?
    Maybe they were all in on it. Even the shooters. Even the duck. More homing bullets, but these ones avoid Bond and hit the wall behind him.

    Oddjob just liked to crush things, be it cars or balls. But especially balls.

    Also known for crushing cats, between the chompers.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 4,767
    I mean, Goldfinger could have just left Solo in the room as they were all going to be murdered anyway (for what I must say are unclear reasons, at least beyond being a script device to give us some exposition of the plan).
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,629
    thedove wrote: »
    Lets stay in the 60's and consider another action that a character took.

    Mr. Solo has decided to not join in on Operation Grand Slam. OddJob is tasked with driving him to the airport. But as all the other gangsters have been eliminated the same fate must happen to Solo too. OddJob uses a gun and kills Mr. Solo in the back seat of the car. Understanding that Goldfinger doesn't wish for dead bodies on his stud farm OddJob must dispose of the body. He promptly drives to a car wrecker and proceeds to smash the car and the gold bullion in the trunk.

    Why? Why not remove the gold from the trunk and then smush the car? Why a car wrecker at all? Does Goldfinger own the wreckers and they are following orders?

    So many questions here, would love to hear some theories on why OddJob smashes the car at the wreckers?


    The car (and the gold) are smashed into a cube and loaded in the back of an El Camino. That would be especially heavy...the El Camino's shocks and tires would not be able to deal with that load. In any case...I assumed Odd Job didn't want to be seen taking the gold out, not on the side of the road and not at the wreckers site. Given that gold melts at a lower temperature than steel and glass, all they had to do was heat the cube to the temperature that gold will melt and it will simply pour out and be easily collected...and well after Solo has turned to ash and withered away.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,175
    English as a second (and unspoken) language confused the original instructions.

    Plus to be fair Oddjob was distracted by something he saw back at the stud farm. Just couldn't get it out of his mind.


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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,906
    "Ahhh."

    Translation: "Just popping down to the scrapyard for a quick snack."
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited March 13 Posts: 5,644
    Too funny and yet some logic to an illogical scene.

    Okay lets move to Japan, known for their technology. In YOLT Bond is constantly amazed by Tiger and the Japanese Service. Tiger himself is most boastful about the various tech available to him and his team of agents.

    But one sequence takes the cake. The car magnet.

    Tiger removes a tail by snatching the car and carrying far afield, or should I say the car is put into a different stream.

    My question is how or why did Tiger apparently have another aircraft video the whole process for Aki and Bond's viewing pleasure? Course I know this was done for cinematic reasons. But lets have some fun with this one...

    Was it to make sure none of the SPECTRE agents escaped? Was this an ultimate Boss response to Bond to show the Japanese Secret Service mean business? Why have two aircraft filming this for Bond and Aki?

    Why did Tiger film the ocean drop for Bond and Aki?

  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 4,767
    The Japanese Secret Service seem to have an excess of funds in YOLT. They even have an entire subway specifically for the chief...

    I think they were just being extra and trying to upstage Bond/the secret service throughout, haha.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,184
    I always thought that the notion of someone somehow filming the "drop in the ocean" and somehow "streaming" it to Aki's Toyota in 1967 was ridiculous. It would work today, yes, but only if there were at least a mention of some drone or other surveillance device doing that job. For the film, they should have at least shown another helicopter besides the one with the magnet recording the whole scene, and the "live streaming" would have been plausible enough.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,175
    Another film clip for the annual gag reel of Japan Secret Service antics to be screened at the next Holiday Party.

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,534
    Look, the Japanese have cameras everywhere in this film, including in space. So it's all part of this beautiful country's impressive network of invisible eyes in the skies.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    Posts: 2,926
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Look, the Japanese have cameras everywhere in this film, including in space. So it's all part of this beautiful country's impressive network of invisible eyes in the skies.

    ... which is very smart of them considering the constant Kaiju attacks on their country. :D
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,534
    Dwayne wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Look, the Japanese have cameras everywhere in this film, including in space. So it's all part of this beautiful country's impressive network of invisible eyes in the skies.

    ... which is very smart of them considering the constant Kaiju attacks on their country. :D

    Imagine YOLT, but with Kaiju controlled by Blofeld.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,344
    007HallY wrote: »
    The Japanese Secret Service seem to have an excess of funds in YOLT. They even have an entire subway specifically for the chief...

    I think they were just being extra and trying to upstage Bond/the secret service throughout, haha.

    If they had done spinoffs in the 60s I would have happily watched the adventures of Tiger and Aki fighting supervillains in Japan with all of their super high tech trains and cars and castles.
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