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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2019 Posts: 5,970
    Once again a film that looks beautiful, but will probably fail because of its story and treatment of characters.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Once again a film that looks beautiful, but will probably fail because of its story and treatment of characters.

    Let's hope not. Kinberg already screwed the Phoenix in The Last Stand. Hopefully he found a way not to screw it again.

    The fact that looks extremely dramatic raise the bar of the ambitions of this movie. Having said that the risk of failing hard is a real possibility. I'm pretty sure the movie will underperform even if it's good. Interesting that the movie seems super women centric. Critics will love it. XD
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    matt_u wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Once again a film that looks beautiful, but will probably fail because of its story and treatment of characters.

    Let's hope not. Kinberg already screwed the Phoenix in The Last Stand. Hopefully he found a way not to screw it again.

    The fact that looks extremely dramatic raise the bar of the ambitions of this movie. Having said that the risk of failing hard is a real possibility. I'm pretty sure the movie will underperform even if it's good. Interesting that the movie seems super women centric. Critics will love it. XD

    The problem is they shouldn't be retreading the same story that The Last Stand was, which seems to be what they're doing, just with a few tweaks here and there. If it was up to me or if I was the MCU, I would actually make The X-Men a high-budget television series on Netflix or something else. It would give time to deal with the characters properly and set-up things that are often always rushed in these big budget movies. I would also go back to the 60's with the original team, and do them properly.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Denbigh wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Once again a film that looks beautiful, but will probably fail because of its story and treatment of characters.

    Let's hope not. Kinberg already screwed the Phoenix in The Last Stand. Hopefully he found a way not to screw it again.

    The fact that looks extremely dramatic raise the bar of the ambitions of this movie. Having said that the risk of failing hard is a real possibility. I'm pretty sure the movie will underperform even if it's good. Interesting that the movie seems super women centric. Critics will love it. XD

    The problem is they shouldn't be retreading the same story that The Last Stand was, which seems to be what they're doing, just with a few tweaks here and there. If it was up to me or if I was the MCU, I would actually make The X-Men a high-budget television series on Netflix or something else. It would give time to deal with the characters properly and set-up things that are often always rushed in these big budget movies. I would also go back to the 60's with the original team, and do them properly.

    I don't see so many similarities with that Ratner directed garbage to be honest. They're re-doing a couple of scenes (like the battle at Jean house etc) but they're capital moments also in the comic...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    I love all the X-Men movies. This looks like another great entry.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    hmm
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Looks good to me.
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
    Posts: 4,813
    If this movie is any good...... I’ll be amazed ;)

    My biggest wtf is why aren’t they using the costumes from the end of Apocalypse?!?
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I will end up buying Dark Phoenix as I have all the films and classic cartoon, though the acting seems a bit off from Sophie Turner.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Is this confirmed to be the last of the Fox Marvel movies?
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    Is this confirmed to be the last of the Fox Marvel movies?

    Yeah its the last one as I believe the sale to Disney is complete now, there were rumours that the film was going to get pulled from release.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Dark Phoenix and New Mutants are the last two Fox X-Men films.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I forgot about New Mutants I recall they are having extensive reshoots and changing the tone of the film?
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    Posts: 556
    Shame. I like the X-Men in their own universe.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,789
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    Shame. I like the X-Men in their own universe.

    Me too. But we'll always have our favourites on disks.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2019 Posts: 15,713
    Final trailer:

  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited April 2019 Posts: 3,497
    Maybe there is a cliffhanger a or pcs that will show us that there will be a continuation?

    The latest trailer looks not bad btw. But I still prefer JLaw bodypainted as Mystique...
    ;-)
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Yeah I don't know why I keep hearing this film is a train wreck. The last 2 trailers for it make it seem like a perfectly serviceable fun superhero action fare. Definitely not amongst the best the genre has to offer, but also definitely not the bottom tier horror that I keep reading about.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,157
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Yeah I don't know why I keep hearing this film is a train wreck. The last 2 trailers for it make it seem like a perfectly serviceable fun superhero action fare. Definitely not amongst the best the genre has to offer, but also definitely not the bottom tier horror that I keep reading about.

    Because that's how things get done nowadays. People drop comments left and right, usually without an ounce of information to work with. Just check out our B25 prod thread. ;-)

    I for one will be seeing this latest X-Men film. I have confidence it won't let me down. And after that, we'll see what happens if Disney tries to include the X-Men in their Avengers series.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited April 2019 Posts: 3,497
    She'll kill us all mate.

    The "are you threatening me" moment looks like so cool.

    Cyclops is the whiney bitch he always was :-) ;-)
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited April 2019 Posts: 8,205
    Wasn't a fan of the first trailer, but the last couple have been interesting. It looks much better than Apocalypse. Turner isn't a great actress but she seems to have the naive rage thing down pretty well here. I was going to see it anyway as it's the last X-Men film, but it's nice to know it might actually be a decent film.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Wasn't a fan of the first trailer, but the last couple have been interesting. It looks much better than Apocalypse. Turner isn't a great actress but she seems to have the naive rage thing down pretty well here. I was going to see it anyway as it's the last X-Men film, but it's nice to know it might actually be a decent film.

    Apocalypse was so dull :(

    X2 & DOFP are in my top three of superheromovies of all times :D
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    I like them all, and looking forward to this.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,205
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    I like them all, and looking forward to this.

    Even ORIGINS, @Thunderfinger?
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Wasn't a fan of the first trailer, but the last couple have been interesting. It looks much better than Apocalypse. Turner isn't a great actress but she seems to have the naive rage thing down pretty well here. I was going to see it anyway as it's the last X-Men film, but it's nice to know it might actually be a decent film.

    Apocalypse was so dull :(

    X2 & DOFP are in my top three of superheromovies of all times :D

    I like them both very much. Logan, on the other hand, I consider to be a masterpiece of the genre.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    I like them all, and looking forward to this.

    Even ORIGINS, @Thunderfinger?

    Yes, indeed.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    Posts: 7,854
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Yeah I don't know why I keep hearing this film is a train wreck. The last 2 trailers for it make it seem like a perfectly serviceable fun superhero action fare. Definitely not amongst the best the genre has to offer, but also definitely not the bottom tier horror that I keep reading about.

    I'd heard rumor of some shareholders meeting where an almost complete cut was taken quite negatively. Most of the criticisms at the time were leveled at the actors' performances.
  • conradhankersconradhankers Underground
    Posts: 229
    First Class is a film I love. Mainly because MF's Connery performance. But there was behind the scenes drama about who actually directed it. Can someone please enlighten myself and members here please?

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,205
    conradhankers wrote: »
    First Class is a film I love. Mainly because MF's Connery performance. But there was behind the scenes drama about who actually directed it. Can someone please enlighten myself and members here please?

    I remember a screenplay credit issue on account of the film originally being a Magneto origin story, but nothing to do with Matthew Vaughn.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Yes, the original plan was to do X-MEN ORIGINS: MAGNETO.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    Well there have been some reshoots...

    And Logan is fantastic of coursh.
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