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Exactly. A lot of it just doesn't suit Craig's Bond. I love Craig as Bond, but most of SP doesn't play to his talents. That phone call during the silly car chase and subsequent ejector seat is perfect for Brosnan's Bond.
At his age?
I actually agree with you to a degree @Mendes4Lyfe. Craig's tenure has been a very mixed bag. Starts off very Fleming inspired, goes dark but retains the same characteristics. SF keeps it serious and slightly dark. But adds a little more fun. SP then goes that one step further and gets rid of nearly all the seriousness and is more akin to a Brosnan or Moore entry. It felt like too much of a jump for Craig's style of playing Bond.
I hope this is remedied in B25.
You where perfectly clear @bondjames My thoughts echo yours on this matter.
It will be, but that has its own problems. I hope they don't revert to type too much, as what was timely in 2006 - 2012 might not have the impact in 2020. Things have moved on.
Mine too.
No i was talking hypothetically.
The mindset with MI6 Community members is that a slight bit of humour is comedy hour and it ruins the whole film. It should be a miserable, humourless, the opposite of extravagant Bond film so they’d be happy about it.
A lot of members just want Craig to go!
He has been a tremendous Bond!
I'd laugh my socks off if Bond 25 is a triumph for everyone and Craig signs for Bond 26!
I want him to stay.
It is the manner of the gags which is the issue. They feels ripped straight out of a moore film. Humour needs to be organic and fit in with the overall tone, not just randomly inserted for the sake of it.
I think Bond 26 would be one too many for him. He's getting old to play Bond. That said, given the actors mentioned to succeed him, I'm glad he's making Bond 25.
On a side note, the mere fact that he's making another Bond after the controversial SP indicates that he's far more popular than some people here credit him for.
The sofa bit in the PTS is straight Moore, you have to admit.
Here here. +1.
I thought the Sofa gag was funny.....
Because the Moore gags had Moore in them. Thats a big advantage.
That’s true. Bar Connery, no one can pull off the one liners or gags as well as Moore.
I'd love for that to happen.
Can se how it's funny for some, but for me it didn't work. Reason being Craig. It feels out of place for his Bond, IMO.
Definitely. There's only one Roger Moore :-D
It's good Bond content, period. Craig Bond doesn't need the limitations I hear being applied to him.
On another note on recent developments in this thread, I truly hope we can continue the discussions on here in a way we all just recognize we're having an escape from the everyday celebrating a subject we all have a common interest in.
I have basically gotten away from the B25 thread as it seems to attract several posters who seem to want to agitate, chase rumors and generally take up pages and pages with unsatisfying and time-wasting comments. I have respect for so many of the posters on this particular thread and look forward to moving on.
What is the overall tone of Spectre? And how does the film create it?
Edit: I don't feel I'm more knowledgeable on this, just want to read your opinion.
Well it i difficult for us outside the business to see what's going on, isn't it. I'd happily accept P&W are talented writers, but at the same time their (Bond)films all have a certain degree of unnatural dialogue. I know obviously nothing about earlier drafts (would be very interested in the more sincere ending of CR), and as more writers come and go there's no way for the average moviegoer to understand who wrote what. i also take it the first drafts of a script have the most outlandish ideas, and they get honed down from there. But that's a guess.
So the only way forward is for the series to continue imitating other films and not try freshening its formula fresher? Perhaps Bond should gain superpowers as well, since that's where the market is.
I don't want to "go back to the way it was," since that's the problem with many Bond films--hackish repetition of the old formula. I would just like to see a Bond film that has an excitement and freshness to it that GF and FRWL did for their first-time audiences (but not necessarily the same mix or kind of elements as in those films). That would mean not having blatant call-backs to past Bond films and not blatantly imitating popular films of the moment. Instead I'd like a better-made thriller that stands on its own merits, with more memorable characterization, sharper direction and editing, ingenious stuntwork, breathless pacing, and increased use of the imagination--whether it's employed for gadgets, surreal or macabre elements and characters, plot twists, and a general sense of surprise and delight. All of those elements were conspicuously missing from the last Bond film.
Not a lot. The same 3 or 4.