The James Bond Questions Thread

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited October 2017 Posts: 15,423
    Moonraker would have been hell of a follow-up to Thunderball in 1967. And with a fit, DN-FRWL era Connery in the lead. That would've been one of my dream movies.

    And I'm talking about a film adaptation of the novel that's in touch with the source material, not that In Like Flint-resembling space extravaganza (which I love, before I misinterpret myself).
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I thought Thunderfinger was having a joke.

    You just never know with him. He's like me.

    What a joke. Or is it?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I thought Thunderfinger was having a joke.

    You just never know with him. He's like me.

    What a joke. Or is it?
    What's a joke?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I thought Thunderfinger was having a joke.

    You just never know with him. He's like me.

    What a joke. Or is it?

    I need to read the script again as I've got lost.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I thought Thunderfinger was having a joke.

    You just never know with him. He's like me.

    What a joke. Or is it?
    What's a joke?

    A story with a humorous climax.
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  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited October 2017 Posts: 7,021
    In my SE DVD, the Thunderball underwater battle scene seems to transition rather haphazardly between different music cues, such as the sneaky flute theme from Switching the Body, the 007 theme in a slow version and the same theme in a slightly faster paced version. The music also goes from low to high quality and back. I don't recall whether the track is mono or 5.1 (I presume the latter), but I wonder if the music was like that in the original version of the film, or does this have something to do with the audio material they used for the 5.1 mix.

    You can hear it right here:
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    ossyjack wrote: »
    Not sure if this has been raised earlier in this thread but I have a question about Casino Royale.

    After beating Le Chiffre, Bond and Vesper have drinks in the restaurant. Vesper then gets up to leave. After a few seconds alone thinking about things Bond suddenly says 'Mathis' and decides to run to the outside of the hotel, witnessing Vesper being bundled into the back of the car.

    Firstly, what was it that Bond realised all of a sudden to make him decide to get up and go sprinting outside the hotel, and what was it about Mathis that Bond had suddenly realised?

    Secondly, who was Bond chasing after? Was he running after Vesper or Mathis here? Did he suspect Vesper was in danger and was going after her, or was he after Mathis and his witnessing of Vesper's abduction flowed from that?

    I've never really understood the trigger for Bond's giving chase, unless I've missed something in the dialogue.

    @ossyjack I don't think it's entirely explained in the film. I believe Bond senses Mathis wouldn't have a reason to call Vesper at that time, and that triggers his suspicions. When he goes outside he's running after Vesper.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    It plays out closely following the Fleming novel. Passages below.

    This was all she said. She sipped at her champagne and rarely glanced at Bond. She didn't smile. Bond felt frustrated. He drank a lot of champagne and ordered another bottle. The scrambled eggs came and they ate in silence.

    At four o'clock Bond was about to call for the bill when the maître d'hôtel appeared at their table and inquired for Miss Lynd. He handed her a note which she took and read hastily.

    'Oh, it's only Mathis,' she said. 'He says would I come to the entrance hall. He's got a message for you. Perhaps he's not in evening clothes or something. I won't be a minute. Then perhaps we could go home.'

    She gave him a strained smile. 'I'm afraid I don't feel very good company this evening. It's been rather a nerve-racking day. I'm so sorry.'

    Bond made a perfunctory reply and rose, pushing back the table. 'I'll get the bill,' he said, and watched her take the few steps to the entrance.

    He sat down and lit a cigarette. He felt flat. He suddenly realized that he was tired. The stuffiness of the room hit him as it had hit him in the Casino in the early hours of the previous day. He called for the bill and took a last mouthful of champagne. It tasted bitter, as the first glass too many always does. He would have liked to have seen Mathis's cheerful face and heard his news, perhaps even a word of congratulation.

    Suddenly the note to Vesper seemed odd to him. It was not the way Mathis would do things. He would have asked them both to join him at the bar of the Casino or he would have joined them in the night club, whatever his clothes. They would have laughed together and Mathis would have been excited. He had much to tell Bond, more than Bond had to tell him. The arrest of the Bulgarian, who had probably talked some more; the chase after the man with the stick; Le Chiffre's movements when he left the Casino.

    Bond shook himself. He hastily paid the bill, not waiting for the change. He pushed back his table and walked quickly through the entrance without acknowledging the good nights of the maître d'hôtel and the doorman.

    He hurried through the gaming room and looked carefully up and down the long entrance hall. He cursed and quickened his step. There were only one or two officials and two or three men and women in evening clothes getting their things at the vestiaire.

    No Vesper. No Mathis.

    He was almost running. He got to the entrance and looked along the steps to left and right down and amongst the few remaining cars.

    The commissionaire came towards him.

    'A taxi, monsieur?'

    Bond waved him aside and started down the steps, his eyes staring into the shadows, the night air cold on his sweating temples.

    He was half way down when he heard a faint cry, then the slam of a door way to the right. With a harsh growl and stutter from the exhaust a beetle browed Citroën shot out of the shadows into the light of the moon, its front wheel drive dry skidding through the loose pebbles of the forecourt.

    Its tail rocked on its soft springs as if a violent struggle was taking place on the back seat.

    With a snarl it raced out to the wide entrance gate in a spray of gravel. A small black object shot out of an open rear window and thudded into a flower bed. There was a scream of tortured rubber as the tyres caught the boulevard in a harsh left handed turn, the deafening echo of a Citroën's exhaust in second gear, a crash into top, then a swiftly diminishing crackle as the car hared off between the shops on the main street towards the coast road.

    Bond knew he would find Vesper's evening bag among the flowers.

    He ran back with it across the gravel to the brightly lit steps and scrabbled through its contents while the commissionaire hovered round him.

    The crumpled note was there amongst the usual feminine baggage.

    Can you come out to the entrance hall for a moment?
    I have news for your companion.
    RENÉ MATHIS



    CHAPTER 15 - BLACK HARE AND GREY HOUND

    It was the crudest possible forgery.

    Bond leapt for the Bentley, blessing the impulse which had made him drive it over after dinner. With the choke full out, the engine answered at once to the starter and the roar drowned the faltering words of the commissionaire who jumped aside as the rear wheels whipped gravel at his piped trouser legs.

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  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    So this
    Suddenly the note to Vesper seemed odd to him. It was not the way Mathis would do things. He would have asked them both to join him at the bar of the Casino or he would have joined them in the night club, whatever his clothes.
    does indeed explain a lot, which is never conveyed with any great satisfaction in the final film.
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    NicNac wrote: »
    So this
    Suddenly the note to Vesper seemed odd to him. It was not the way Mathis would do things. He would have asked them both to join him at the bar of the Casino or he would have joined them in the night club, whatever his clothes.
    does indeed explain a lot, which is never conveyed with any great satisfaction in the final film.

    Wow that does indeed explain it,i forgot about that..they needed to clarify that more in the film.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    So this
    Suddenly the note to Vesper seemed odd to him. It was not the way Mathis would do things. He would have asked them both to join him at the bar of the Casino or he would have joined them in the night club, whatever his clothes.
    does indeed explain a lot, which is never conveyed with any great satisfaction in the final film.

    Wow that does indeed explain it,i forgot about that..they needed to clarify that more in the film.

    Agreed. I questioned this for years because of how they fail to truly sell it in the film. All we get is a "Mathis..." before Bond storms off and nothing more.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited October 2017 Posts: 2,138
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    So this
    Suddenly the note to Vesper seemed odd to him. It was not the way Mathis would do things. He would have asked them both to join him at the bar of the Casino or he would have joined them in the night club, whatever his clothes.
    does indeed explain a lot, which is never conveyed with any great satisfaction in the final film.

    Wow that does indeed explain it,i forgot about that..they needed to clarify that more in the film.

    Agreed. I questioned this for years because of how they fail to truly sell it in the film. All we get is a "Mathis..." before Bond storms off and nothing more.

    I always thought, Bond had thought at that point it was Mathis who had spiked his drink, and it was Bond taking a drink that made him think it may have been Mathis who spiked him, and that Vesper could be in trouble. Bond may have also thought Mathis told Le Chiffre that Bond found out his "Tell", after Bond tell's Mathis what Le Chiffre's tell is, and Le Chiffre's then appears to feign the tell which costs Bond the treasuries money.

    Vesper receives the text and tells Bond "it's Mathis the CIA have picked up Le Chiffre" Vesper then says it's Mathis he needs me.

    I had assumed at this point, that it took a minute for it to register with Bond 'If the CIA had Le Chiffre, why would Mathis need Vesper' = Mathis poisoned me, = Mathis is going to use Vesper to still get the money for Le Chiffre.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Or it could be "If the CIA had Le Chiffre, why would Mathis need Vesper" = "Mathis wants to take her to bed" = "Bond hasn't had a shot with her yet, and he'll be damned if he's taking Mathis' sloppy seconds" = "Kill Mathis".

    Don't quote me on it!

    In all seriousness, that does make a bit of sense. I just always stop myself in that scene and try and play it all out to make proper sense of it before Bond takes off. Was simply one of those moments that always managed to confuse me.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Or it could be "If the CIA had Le Chiffre, why would Mathis need Vesper" = "Mathis wants to take her to bed" = "Bond hasn't had a shot with her yet, and he'll be damned if he's taking Mathis' sloppy seconds" = "Kill Mathis".

    Don't quote me on it!

    In all seriousness, that does make a bit of sense. I just always stop myself in that scene and try and play it all out to make proper sense of it before Bond takes off. Was simply one of those moments that always managed to confuse me.

    I agree, it left too much to the imagination and trying to think back for the reason why, while still trying to pay attention to what is going on.
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    Well it's 11 years later and we are still not sure.
    I say we stick with Flemings writing of course,unless someone wants to email EON for an explanation ? ;)
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Well it's 11 years later and we are still not sure.
    I say we stick with Flemings writing of course,unless someone wants to email EON for an explanation ? ;)

    You will receive a Solicitors letter in reply.
  • Posts: 19,339
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Well it's 11 years later and we are still not sure.
    I say we stick with Flemings writing of course,unless someone wants to email EON for an explanation ? ;)

    You will receive a Solicitors letter in reply.

    Sad isn't it ?

  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Well it's 11 years later and we are still not sure.
    I say we stick with Flemings writing of course,unless someone wants to email EON for an explanation ? ;)

    You will receive a Solicitors letter in reply.

    Sad isn't it ?

    yes, I will never forget that story, very sad and stupid from whoever made that call.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited October 2017 Posts: 13,779
    It's simple to me.
    Bond reacts as he did in the Fleming book.
    Le Chiffre plants the seed of distrust with his Your Friend Mathis comment. It's meant to aid his interrogation of Bond. But it outlives the villain and is resolved in the next film that just like the book, Mathis is as pure as newfallen snow.
    Just because it's different from Fleming doesn't make it bad. It's good storytelling on screen for me.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited October 2017 Posts: 15,423
    Bond was after Mathis and knew Vesper was endangered with a wrong call. So, he set out for her rescue rather than chase her. Mathis had no reason for contacting her so he broke away to save Vesper from the danger.

    Well, either he was after Mathis, or he assumed Le Chiffre's men put Mathis down and took over his channel.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited October 2017 Posts: 13,779
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  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Does any member of here go by the name of Zein Ibrahim? I just got a Facebook friend request from him. I don't want to accept until I know who he is. Looks like he's a Bond fan and I'm a friend of you guys, but some random Syrian dude I'm a bit leery of.
  • GumboldGumbold Atlantis
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    What exactly is Shatterhand? I keep seeing it everywhere.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Gumbold wrote: »
    What exactly is Shatterhand? I keep seeing it everywhere.
    It's the name Blofeld uses while disguised as a different man in the novel You Only Live Twice. It's made no appearance in the films, yet.
  • GumboldGumbold Atlantis
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    Gumbold wrote: »
    What exactly is Shatterhand? I keep seeing it everywhere.
    It's the name Blofeld uses while disguised as a different man in the novel You Only Live Twice. It's made no appearance in the films, yet.

    Aha so it's in the canon. I thought it was a comic book or something. Thanks! I like it more now
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Couldn't Broccoli and Saltzman have set some money aside to buy a neck for poor Charles Gray?
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Here you have an old Spanish relic: the James Bond Theme with lyrics... in Spanish!

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    Yes, they are awful, but my question is who is S. Roberts? Writer of The James Bond Theme's lyrics?

    He is here too: https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/233409-the-james-bond-theme-double-o-seven-summer-vacation.html
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    What are the lyrics in Spanish?
  • TokolosheTokoloshe Under your bed
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    mattjoes wrote: »

    Don't know about the music at the start - just generic cheesy nonsense really.

    However I'm curious about the gun falling out of something at the 0:45 mark. Is that in the final film?
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