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Wow, Craig really sucks.
Impossible.
I think they were likely just speaking about the point broadly. If you watch the clip and the positioning of the fingers and Craig's mouth, you can see that there was no editing involved. It's a single take.
So they couldn't make direct cuts. It be a very expensive bit of CGI to give Eva Green a new hand and Craig a new mouth. However, they could reposition and delete some fingers. Which is likely what has happened.
Just a reminder ...
You know what I can do with my CGI finger.
Just his luck, his little finger removeb with CGI.....
1. Licence to Kill
2. QoS
3. Casino Royale
4. A View To A Kill
5. The Living Daylights
2. GE
3. TSWLM
4. LTK
5. Skyfall
Is Bond really on a rampage to avenge Tracy on DAF's pre-credits scene or it simply depends of how every viewer feels about that?
I think they willfully avoided directly acknowledging it, so that it can work either way-wether you saw OHMSS or not.
I guess this was the best and wisest option. Thanks, TF!
License to Kill is definitely #1 still is I wonder if that will change in the future.
I found the moment to be reassuring and comforting.
If you found a broken woman fully-dressed sitting in a cold shower, conventional logic would dictate that you would pull her out and warm her up. Perhaps throw a towel over her and dry her off. Maybe say a few words to inspire her not to be downcast by what she just witnessed. Whether you believed your own words or not.
However, Bond decided to join her in the shower. He understands how she's feeling, because he's feeling that way too. You don't need dialogue, instead you have a simple elegant moment that is complex and interesting. The finger thing is his way of helping and there is a certain masculine vulnerability to the moment.
It's one of the best and most complex scenes in the Bond series. Aside from the themes and character work; there is Campbell's terrific decision to shoot in one take, Craig and Green's performance and David Arnold's beautiful score.
A+
Impossible what? I'm confused.
I say AVTAK because Zorin massacring the mine workers and shooting the geologist at close range really made the film dark IMO
I understand Bond joining her in the shower and all that (indeed a clever way of showing the two characters connecting), but the finger sucking thing just struck me as odd. I've never once connected with that as anything comforting or natural.
Don't know if this is already mentioned recently or long ago, but still another reason the scene is so good is it recalls classic storytelling. Specifically William Shakespeare and Macbeth.
In response to Eva's muttering "it's like there's blood on my hands... it's not coming off," Bond figuratively almost literally takes that blood off her hands. Absolves her of involvement, taking it all on himself. Quite a movie moment.
It’s odd in retrospective, I agree. However, in the moment it feels organic. It’s certainly one of the more interesting aspects as there is the overtones of Vesper’s ultimate betrayal and the Lady Macbeth connotations.
It’s ‘impossible’ from a technical perspective. The scene is shot in a single take. Therefore, you can’t get around adding CGI through editing. So the only options you have is to replace Green’s hands and Craig’s mouth via CGI. Clearly, they did not do that as the scene would look massively wonky. CGI today has not advanced to that degree and it would tip the moment into the uncanny valley (just watch Henry Cavill’s mouth in Justice League).
However, what they likely did was delete some fingers and move Craig’s hand a little to disguise the deletion. I think Craig sucked one finger first and then three/fingers at once, but the CGI made it look like he sucked two fingers individually. There’s a moment in the sequence where the fingers do creep oddly out of shot and Craig’s hand covers most of his mouth. That is the CGI moment, it is literally a second.
Along with Daniel Craig’s CGI hands in SF, it’s definitely some of the oddest uses of CGI. However, I’m sure there are 1000s of other instances of discreet CGI that we have yet to be made aware of in these films.
In fact, I’ve never quite understood the CGI hands story from SF. They look real to me.
Bond sucking his thumb would have failed to do the one thing that scene does- finally establish him as a caring person.
Not at all suggesting Bond should have sucked his own thumb, haha!
As for Bond as a caring person, I found that to already be established by him joining her in the shower.
I think the point is that the water of the shower can't wash away Vesper's metaphorical blood on her hands. It's just something cold and impersonal. But Bond can. He's flesh and blood, and he knows what she went through. Unusual and odd an image as it might be on the film, by sucking her fingers (or rather, cleansing them), he can help her overcome her trauma.
I don't think the human brain in (or out of) distress would do that kind of evaluation and dismissal. More likely it would react with relief at the human contact, maybe to the point of creating endorphins based on previous experience. Reaction of the subconscious. The mechanics of it and being an act of another person versus self wouldn't play into it.
Good points. Still, after all these years, I don't think I can ever see it as anything but a moment that strikes me as odd (even if it's a brief one). I guess we all have some of those.