The PIERCE BROSNAN Appreciation thread - Discuss His Life, His Career, His Bond Films

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  • edited January 2020 Posts: 4,409
    Red_Snow wrote: »

    I do hope that Daniel Craig presents alongside Pierce....it be a great excuse to get two Bonds on stage together.

    also, never understood the Brosnan hate. He was the first Bond i saw in the cinemas. I always thought he was James Bond. He's also undeniably the most handsome 007, he is easily the sexiest actor to play the role (as gorgeous as Fleming imagined) but he has an air of mystery, a hint of danger. Perhaps because he played the role with a slightly knowing wink. But he was so darn charming. He's the 'tall, dark and handsome' ideal. born to be a leading man...

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    Just look at his hair!
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    Lots of love for that hair. I still use mine just like so. Pierce rules.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    I do hope that Daniel Craig presents alongside Pierce....it be a great excuse to get two Bonds on stage together.

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  • He was the first Bond i saw in the cinemas. I always thought he was James Bond. He's also undeniably the most handsome 007, he is easily the sexiest actor to play the role (as gorgeous as Fleming imagined) but he has an air of mystery, a hint of danger. Perhaps because he played the role with a slightly knowing wink. But he was so darn charming. He's the 'tall, dark and handsome' ideal. born to be a leading man...

    I miss those days. I know Craig is considered 'sexy but not classically handsome', but I still have a hard time seeing the Bond vibe come from Craig, in the same way as is predecessors. Of course, a whole generation now will see Craig as Bond, and when they look at Brossa they'll think "he's much too fresh-faced, Bond is supposed to be rugged".

  • edited January 2020 Posts: 4,409
    I do hope that Daniel Craig presents alongside Pierce....it be a great excuse to get two Bonds on stage together.

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    I hope this happened....though I think they will probably pair him with Ana De Armas as part of Knives Out and for a shameless plug of No Time to Die. It's a big audience watching, so expect some ind of NTTD hype.

    Quentin Tarantino has had some interesting things to say about Pierce Brosnan over the years...

    https://www.newsgroove.co.uk/james-bond-quentin-tarantino-ranks-007-actors-can-you-guess-who-his-favourite-bond-is/

    Tarantino said: “Sean Connery, Pierce Brosnan, then just a little under him, Roger Moore.

    “And then everybody else. Connery’s at the top, but I really, really like Pierce Brosnan.

    “I didn’t care for the movies that they put him in, which I always thought was a bit of a tragedy, because I thought he was a very legitimate Bond.


    “I’m a huge Roger Moore fan – I just like Roger Moore a little better when he’s not playing Bond.”


    I can see why Tarantino gravitates to Pierce. he has a classic 'movie star' look - something that Tarantino has romanticised in his cinema. He's tall, dark and handsome. something mysterious but with a wink of self-awareness.

    The rougher and more 'edgy' Daniel Craig is almost a total 180 degree turn from that idea.




    He isn't wrong that he was the first to float CR back in 2004 and the Broccoli's took his heed. Though claiming it was all 'his idea' is a little grandiose. Though, I'd have loved to see him do a Bond with Pierce. That would have rocked.

    I think if Tarantino was casting the next Bond, he'd sway towards a Michael Fassbender or even....Henry Cavill type. They have theclassic movie-star looks. the former is a renowned talent, but the latter has a certain energy similar to Brosnan.
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    I think if Tarantino was casting the next Bond, he'd sway towards a Michael Fassbender or even....Henry Cavill type. They have theclassic movie-star looks. the former is a renowned talent, but the latter has a certain energy similar to Brosnan.

    I really hope this is the way EON are looking for the next actor, but it's probably unlikely. I can see them staying away from the classic movie-star looks kind of actors to cast a Craig 2.0 type.

    I'd would also love a Tarantino Bond film, but that's not happening. Although, I'm sure Tarantino would be up for it, if asked. He could even write the film. I do hope he makes a film with Brosnan though – that would probably equal or surpass my excitement for a new Bond film.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    I do hope that Daniel Craig presents alongside Pierce....it be a great excuse to get two Bonds on stage together.

    2aaef69d89fd57fe85a08a56f4dadd61.gif


    I hope this happened....though I think they will probably pair him with Ana De Armas as part of Knives Out and for a shameless plug of No Time to Die. It's a big audience watching, so expect some ind of NTTD hype.

    Quentin Tarantino has had some interesting things to say about Pierce Brosnan over the years...

    https://www.newsgroove.co.uk/james-bond-quentin-tarantino-ranks-007-actors-can-you-guess-who-his-favourite-bond-is/

    Tarantino said: “Sean Connery, Pierce Brosnan, then just a little under him, Roger Moore.

    “And then everybody else. Connery’s at the top, but I really, really like Pierce Brosnan.

    “I didn’t care for the movies that they put him in, which I always thought was a bit of a tragedy, because I thought he was a very legitimate Bond.


    “I’m a huge Roger Moore fan – I just like Roger Moore a little better when he’s not playing Bond.”


    I can see why Tarantino gravitates to Pierce. he has a classic 'movie star' look - something that Tarantino has romanticised in his cinema. He's tall, dark and handsome. something mysterious but with a wink of self-awareness.

    The rougher and more 'edgy' Daniel Craig is almost a total 180 degree turn from that idea.



    I would love to see Brosnan and Craig in the same film together. I am still shocked that for the past 52 years (since Lazenby was cast), no film has ever featured multiple Bond actors. As I wrote in the Craig appreciation thread, I really hope that if a sequel to Knives Out gets made, that they will add Brosnan in the cast as a murder suspect.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    He isn't wrong that he was the first to float CR back in 2004 and the Broccoli's took his heed.
    I had the idea to film Casino Royale back in the mid-Seventies. But the timing obviously wasn't right for that.

  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
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    I saw reference to The Matador in the OP. Great film! It's always been a favourite of mine. I feel like Brosnan's portrayal of Bond needed more Julian Noble in it. More of that self-deprecating, jaded character that Pierce played really well in The Matador. In fact even films like The November Man were closer to Bond then his actual interpretation, IMO.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    What's the status of The Misfits ? I'm looking forward to seeing Pierce back in suave mode.

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  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    @Getafix Haven't seen the interview but can guarantee he will 100% be talking about Lazenby. He has nothing but respect for Dalton. I remember reading about the GE press conference and he apparently said something about admiring what Dalton had done, peeling back the layers, and wanted to continue that. He also said in the James Bond unmasked book that Dalton played it "right down the f***ing line".

    Lazenby on the other hand he's had beef with in the past. And really whenever anyone is talking about a bad James Bond I think you can assume they're on about Lazenby. He's the more generally forgotten actor who only did one.

    He lost the role because he was used as a scapegoat for the issues of DAD (easier to sell a change in direction with a clean break) after all his suggestions for the direction they should be going in over the years seemed to be ignored (he didn't have the clout with BB that Craig does, he was Cubby's choice). I know you don't like him but he was very popular at the time, lots of "best since Connery" comments, and his films were successful. It isn't fair to say he wasn't good enough.

    I'd missed or forgotten Brozza had a beef with Laz. Wonder who started it. If Pierce said OHMSS was rubbish then he had it coming tbh. Plus he's totally wrong, of course.

    He never said OHMSS was rubbish. What he apparently said was that if he could remake one Bond film he'd remake that one, because he thought the script/story was great but it was "just sad" that it starred Lazenby (should note that I can't actually find a source for this, it's just something @DCisared mentioned when he started the thread about their beef). He also said something about not wanting to be "the next George Lazenby" around that time (that bit I think is on record, I've heard that before). Then GE came out and Lazenby said something about Brosnan's Bond being a wimp compared to his and how "Bond shouldn't be nice" and it all kicked off from there.

    So Brosnan did start it to be fair and it was a bit of an undignified move. But to be honest as much as I like Lazenby (I've said before that he's the closest to Fleming's Bond and could have been the best with time), I think his comments prove that his performance in OHMSS was entirely down to Hunt. The best thing about Lazenby is that he showed Bond's vulnerability and human side in a way Connery's Bond never did. He wasn't just a hard bastard. He had a real romantic side with Tracey and looked genuinely scared for his life in some of the action scenes. But him saying that Brosnan's Bond was too girly and his Bond was harder just makes me think that none of that was really down to him. There's a myth about Fleming's Bond being this brutal heartless cold blooded killer because that's how Connery played it, but if you read the books he's actually a much more human and romantic character than that.

    And, probably sacrelige on here, but I genuinely think Brosnan would have been better in OHMSS too. I know that a lot of people will think no, he would have overacted and ruined that final scene. But Brosnan is a real directors actor imo. He's very restrained in GE and I think that's down to Campbell, who got another brilliant performance out of him in The Foreigner. Hunt would have reigned in his more OTT character actor tendancies (aren't there stories about him being a very strict director?) and he would have smashed that final scene. He knows grief like that.

    Wouldn't have liked to have seen it actually remade in his era though. Imagine Spotiswood or Tamahori directing it. Would have been a complete mess and Brosnan wouldn't have been a patch on Lazenby. But if you put him in the same film Lazenby got, with Hunt directing, then yeah. I think he'd have done a better job.

    This sounds about right, given that TWINE was developed to serve as Brosnan's own OHMSS installment, as that was the kind of Bond film he wanted to work on as an actor. It's a shame though because I really wish TWINE was as good as OHMSS, as I think Brosnan could have pulled off that kind of film. Wrong director, wrong writers. Too many punches pulled. The thing that made OHMSS work was that it was a tragedy, and TWINE did too much to undercut that tragedy due to EON fear of turning away its audiences by deviating from the known formula. It's a shame because EON earned the right to try something more daring after having won back audiences with GE and TND. But oh well, they eventually got that confidence for Craig's run. Just too bad it only happened after Brosnan was out.
    You are right about this because Skyfall did what the producers were scared to do with TWINE. Imagine if the character Christmas Jones didn’t exist and it was just Electra the only Bond girl. It would have been one of the best bond films in history.

    Pretty much. A much somber ending is probably something EON is too afraid of, which is why even in QOS when Bond leaves the necklace behind the gun barrel the blares out, as if an attempt to put audiences out on a higher note but IMO it killed the mood of the scene.
    He isn't wrong that he was the first to float CR back in 2004 and the Broccoli's took his heed. Though claiming it was all 'his idea' is a little grandiose. Though, I'd have loved to see him do a Bond with Pierce. That would have rocked.

    He's being a little facetious when claiming EON took his heed. He had actually been talking up doing CR even waaaay before 2004. Here's a video of a critics round table covering the film releases of December 1997, where they eventually start talking about TND which all the critics including Tarantino dismiss negatively. Tarantino then goes on a tangent about how he's always wanted to do CR. He even suggested his Felix Leiter would be played by Samuel L. Jackson. This was years before EON would obtain the film rights to the novel, and to my understanding Tarantino actually tried to fight for the book rights in order to make that film for his own. Ultimately, EON won out.


    https://charlierose.com/videos/2351

    Skip to 12:19 and that's when they bring up TND and then Tarantino starts talking about CR.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Tarantino has a habit to rewrite history for his own narrative. EON never took his 'heed', they'd been after the rights of CR since Dr. No.

    Anyway, this is the Pierce Brosnan appreciation thread, and I recently saw him in 'the foreigner'. A film with Jackie Chan. I didn't expect much, but both men shine in this film. It's far more gritty and realistic than what I'd expect from the cast, and what a performance they give!
    Brosnan plays the role of irish politician who's cought in the middle as a militant part of the IRA starts new attacks in which civillians die. Amongst whom the daughter of a Chinese restaurant owner.

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Questions in order:

    - The film you are the most proud of?
    - The film you can never stop watching?
    - A film you know every famous quotes?
    - Your very first film?
    - The last film you saw?
    - The film that makes you die from laughter?
    - The film that makes you cry like a baby?
    - The best spy film?
    - The best love story?
    - A sequel you would like to see?

    That Brosnan is such a big fan of Le Carré says a lot for me with regards to how far they brought his Bond away from what he thought it was going to be.

    I watched SERAPHIM FALLS the other night and both Brosnan and Neeson were outstanding in it. A very good film that came and went with no fuss and deserved more attention heaped on it. The opening scene, featuring Broz cauterising a gunshot wound, is horrific in its accuracy. He sells the desperation wonderfully.
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
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    I love Brosnan in this film. I always wished he'd played his Bond a bit more like Julian Noble.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Looks like self-isolation is taking its toll on someone...

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Looks like self-isolation is taking its toll on someone...

    Disheveled Jesus Bond from DAD is back!
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Looks like self-isolation is taking its toll on someone...

    Disheveled Jesus Bond from DAD is back!

    Reminiscent of his Crusoe.
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    Looks like self-isolation is taking its toll on someone...


    :)) Nice one Pierce! :-bd
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    He better get cleaned up for Sunday.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited April 2020 Posts: 7,021
    Esquire's Pierce Brosnan films ranking:
    https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/film/a30595888/best-pierce-brosnan-movies-films-ranked-james-bond/

    Looks like self-isolation is taking its toll on someone...

    God, I try, I really try not to use funny Brosnan images as my user avatar, but he makes it so difficult! :))
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
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    Pierce Brosnan featuring in Castaway II.
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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Pierce Brosnan interviewed by Jonathan Ross back in 2004 to promote After the Sunset. At one point (5:30 in the video) he mentions a scriptwriter has been hired for The Thomas Crown Affair 2. It's been 16 years now, can someone please make this film happen? [-O<

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    Yes, the Topkapi meets Thomas Crown Affair film that never was. That won't happen. It was a project helmed by his late producer and friend Beau st Clair. Pierce won't do it without her, I'm sure. A sad affair, alas.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Univex wrote: »
    Yes, the Topkapi meets Thomas Crown Affair film that never was. That won't happen. It was a project helmed by his late producer and friend Beau st Clair. Pierce won't do it without her, I'm sure. A sad affair, alas.

    Who knows. It took Tom cruise 34 years to make top gun: maverick.
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Esquire's Pierce Brosnan films ranking:
    https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/film/a30595888/best-pierce-brosnan-movies-films-ranked-james-bond/

    Looks like self-isolation is taking its toll on someone...

    God, I try, I really try not to use funny Brosnan images as my user avatar, but he makes it so difficult! :))
    Can't agree with the esquire ranking. The foreigner should be far higher. As they say, it looks far worse on paper, but is actually fantastic.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Esquire's Pierce Brosnan films ranking:
    https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/film/a30595888/best-pierce-brosnan-movies-films-ranked-james-bond/

    Looks like self-isolation is taking its toll on someone...

    God, I try, I really try not to use funny Brosnan images as my user avatar, but he makes it so difficult! :))
    Can't agree with the esquire ranking. The foreigner should be far higher. As they say, it looks far worse on paper, but is actually fantastic.
    I agree about The Foreigner. It's top-notch.

    I did find it funny how several of the explanations for the rankings of the Brosnan films are simply the same Taffin video over and over again.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Yes, that was funny. And tbh, in some cases right on the money 😉
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Happy 67th, Pierce!
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    he still looks great for a granddad. many happy returns Mr Brosnan.
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