The ROGER MOORE Appreciation thread - Discuss His Life, His Career, His Bond Films

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    barryt007 wrote: »
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    I remember reading a quote from Hunt saying that he felt Moore "was never his idea of Bond".

    He IS Bond to me, the first Bond I ever knew and totally grew up with at Xmas,Easter ,holidays etc ...if it was a Roger Moore Bond film we all sat round the telly,a real event ,andthe first of the Bonds I saw at the cinema !
    Shame they never did a Bond film together (OHMSS) as Gold turned out brilliant!

    That was growing up for me too, Barry, though I saw Connery first on TV, Rogers Bond movies were the ones I saw frequently, particularly at Christmas, Easter and Bank Holidays! I distinctly remember the Sunday night TV premiere of LALD! Though I'm a diehard Dalton fan, my tv memories and my first sighting of 007 in cinema were all Rog! Happy times!
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    Really enjoyed Gold. Fantastic performance from Sir Rog and the finale was incredibly intense.
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    Moore certainly seemed to be the most “family friendly” Bond.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Too bad Peter Hunt didn't direct some of Moore's Bond films. They would have been a great combination. Better than Guy Hamilton and Tom Mackenwicz anyway.

    Indeed! Hunt was asked to For Your Eyes Only, but a prior commitment came in the way. Richard Maibaum was quite excited at the prospect of Hunt's return, but it was not to be.

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    Revelator wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Too bad Peter Hunt didn't direct some of Moore's Bond films. They would have been a great combination. Better than Guy Hamilton and Tom Mackenwicz anyway.

    Indeed! Hunt was asked to For Your Eyes Only, but a prior commitment came in the way. Richard Maibaum was quite excited at the prospect of Hunt's return, but it was not to be.

    Interesting to think how that would have turned out !
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    I didn't know Peter Hunt was going to do FYEO. That would have been interesting.
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    Revelator wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Too bad Peter Hunt didn't direct some of Moore's Bond films. They would have been a great combination. Better than Guy Hamilton and Tom Mackenwicz anyway.

    Indeed! Hunt was asked to For Your Eyes Only, but a prior commitment came in the way. Richard Maibaum was quite excited at the prospect of Hunt's return, but it was not to be.

    Really? That would of been very interesting to see.
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    Interesting seems to the word of the moment !
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    Really? That would of been very interesting to see.

    Ditto! My source is an interview with Hunt where he says:

    "Then Broccoli asked me to come back for Diamonds Are Forever, but at that time he and Saltzman were fighting and I was involved with something else. I told them that if they moved the production date I might be able to, but they couldn't and so they went with Guy Hamilton...Then, again, Cubby asked me when I was doing Death Hunt, and I couldn't. So each time he came to me, I couldn't do it for one reason or another, although I would have liked to..."

    Death Hunt was released in 1981, so the film Hunt was asked back for was For Your Eyes Only, since it was released the same year.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Interesting, still I am quite happy with what I got in FYEO. My most rewatchable bond film of Moore Era
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    FYEO is brilliant. It always has and always will have a special place in my heart. But, a Peter Hunt-directed FYEO? Come on. That would have been an absolute masterpiece.
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    I am also very happy with the FYEO we got. A top 10 stable often in my top 5.
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    FYEO is also among my favorite Bonds, and my favorite Moore film. That said, I do think it would have been even better if Hunt directed it. Glen did a good job, and no one can gainsay his skill with action. But Hunt also had that, along with more elegant touch and greater interest in drama.

    Richard Maibaum himself was was a bit critical of of FYEO: "I was very disappointed with the way the love story was handled. The whole idea was that the great lover James Bond can't get to first base with this woman because she's so obssessed with avenging her parents' death. Nothing was ever done with it. It was as if the director didn't feel there was a love story there at all....I think we blew an opportunity in For Your Eyes Only to go back to the From Russia With Love/On Her Majesty's Secret Service Bonds."

    That last sentence is perhaps overly harsh, but Hunt certainly would have been the right director to go back to the OHMSS model. On the Absolutely James Bond message board someone, who claimed to have corresponded with Maibaum on occasion, wrote that Maibaum "was very proud of For Your Eyes Only which he described as 'a fine-tuned engine.' Peter Hunt had a lot of input in the script Maibaum turned in. But history repeated itself. Once again Maibaum was very upset over the changes and new material Michael Wilson imposed (expanding Bibi the ice-skater into a speaking role, bringing Melina to Cortina, adding the motorcycle fight in the town plaza and the hockey fight in the rink, losing the execution of Luigi, reducing the importance of the Countess etc). Wilson shifted the emphasis into all the wrong areas and director John Glen dropped the ball completely in other areas....But the film turned out rather well, in my view, although I agree it could have been better."
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    I don't got too much against Bibi, but the motorcycle fight and hockey fight seems a bit out of place. There are some silly moments which ruins the mood of the film at times sadly. Like you said it could have been even better.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Glen felt more comfortable with the action, so we had the nonsense of the hockey fight, and the dull submarine battle (after all Kristatos was already waiting for Bond and the ATAC on the boat).

    Exploring Bond being rejected by an obsessed Melina sounds like a good idea. And an expanded role for the Countessa as well.


  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited March 2019 Posts: 2,541
    FYEO is brilliant. It always has and always will have a special place in my heart. But, a Peter Hunt-directed FYEO? Come on. That would have been an absolute masterpiece.

    Could be, but think about it's the same person who directed Moore's last 3 films also directed Dalton's 2 on more serious & brutal note. It's not just the director but also depends on screenwriter and producer, where they want to take the film with the actor. As much as I admire Peter Hunt there is no certainty. FYEO is still my most rewatchable bond film of Moore's Era.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    FYEO is brilliant. It always has and always will have a special place in my heart. But, a Peter Hunt-directed FYEO? Come on. That would have been an absolute masterpiece.

    Could be, but think about it's the same person who directed Moore's last 3 films also directed Dalton's 2 on more serious & brutal note. It's not just the director but also depends on screenwriter and producer, where they want to take the film with the actor. As much as I admire Peter Hunt there is no certainty. FYEO is still my most rewatchable bond film of Moore's Era.
    Glen's films all had the same tone, same palette, same template and same blandness. Sure, he was good at handling action choreographs, but his films aren't all that exciting. The reason I love the Dalton films is only Dalton himself. I could live without OP and AVTAK.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited March 2019 Posts: 2,541
    FYEO is brilliant. It always has and always will have a special place in my heart. But, a Peter Hunt-directed FYEO? Come on. That would have been an absolute masterpiece.

    Could be, but think about it's the same person who directed Moore's last 3 films also directed Dalton's 2 on more serious & brutal note. It's not just the director but also depends on screenwriter and producer, where they want to take the film with the actor. As much as I admire Peter Hunt there is no certainty. FYEO is still my most rewatchable bond film of Moore's Era.
    Glen's films all had the same tone, same palette, same template and same blandness. Sure, he was good at handling action choreographs, but his films aren't all that exciting. The reason I love the Dalton films is only Dalton himself. I could live without OP and AVTAK.

    It was exciting for me FYEO/OP/TLD my favorites. I love Dalton films but not just because of him TLD is always in my 10 as for OP still a great action flick if we keep aside a few silly Scenes .I could learn to live with AVTAK.
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    FYEO is brilliant. It always has and always will have a special place in my heart. But, a Peter Hunt-directed FYEO? Come on. That would have been an absolute masterpiece.

    Could be, but think about it's the same person who directed Moore's last 3 films also directed Dalton's 2 on more serious & brutal note. It's not just the director but also depends on screenwriter and producer, where they want to take the film with the actor. As much as I admire Peter Hunt there is no certainty. FYEO is still my most rewatchable bond film of Moore's Era.
    Glen's films all had the same tone, same palette, same template and same blandness. Sure, he was good at handling action choreographs, but his films aren't all that exciting. The reason I love the Dalton films is only Dalton himself. I could live without OP and AVTAK.

    It was exciting for me FYEO/OP/TLD my favorites. I love Dalton films but not just because of him TLD is always in my 10 as for OP still a great action flick if we keep aside a few silly Scenes .I could learn to live with AVTAK.

    I love all the Moore Bond films,all so rewatchable and fun.
    Also LTK is right up there in my top 10,so thumbs up for Glen from me !!
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited March 2019 Posts: 2,541
    barryt007 wrote: »
    FYEO is brilliant. It always has and always will have a special place in my heart. But, a Peter Hunt-directed FYEO? Come on. That would have been an absolute masterpiece.

    Could be, but think about it's the same person who directed Moore's last 3 films also directed Dalton's 2 on more serious & brutal note. It's not just the director but also depends on screenwriter and producer, where they want to take the film with the actor. As much as I admire Peter Hunt there is no certainty. FYEO is still my most rewatchable bond film of Moore's Era.
    Glen's films all had the same tone, same palette, same template and same blandness. Sure, he was good at handling action choreographs, but his films aren't all that exciting. The reason I love the Dalton films is only Dalton himself. I could live without OP and AVTAK.

    It was exciting for me FYEO/OP/TLD my favorites. I love Dalton films but not just because of him TLD is always in my 10 as for OP still a great action flick if we keep aside a few silly Scenes .I could learn to live with AVTAK.

    I love all the Moore Bond films,all so rewatchable and fun.
    Also LTK is right up there in my top 10,so thumbs up for Glen from me !!

    Same here 3 of Glen films are in my top 10 - FYEO(5)/TLD(6)/ LTK(9)
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    NicNac wrote: »
    Glen felt more comfortable with the action, so we had the nonsense of the hockey fight, and the dull submarine battle (after all Kristatos was already waiting for Bond and the ATAC on the boat).

    Exploring Bond being rejected by an obsessed Melina sounds like a good idea. And an expanded role for the Countessa as well.


    Agree on the underwater scene where they get the ATAC, really slow sequence.
  • JeffreyJeffrey The Netherlands
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    FYEO is brilliant. It always has and always will have a special place in my heart. But, a Peter Hunt-directed FYEO? Come on. That would have been an absolute masterpiece.

    Could be, but think about it's the same person who directed Moore's last 3 films also directed Dalton's 2 on more serious & brutal note. It's not just the director but also depends on screenwriter and producer, where they want to take the film with the actor. As much as I admire Peter Hunt there is no certainty. FYEO is still my most rewatchable bond film of Moore's Era.
    Glen's films all had the same tone, same palette, same template and same blandness. Sure, he was good at handling action choreographs, but his films aren't all that exciting. The reason I love the Dalton films is only Dalton himself. I could live without OP and AVTAK.

    @ClarkDevlin Without OP even? Wow... I love OP. I prefer FYEO just a tiny bit more, but man I wouldn't want to miss OP for the world.

    I Love FYEO as is, but Hunt's take certainly would have been interesting. Maybe would have given it a bit more cinematic style as well to it.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    It's one of those films I feel strongly opposed to. Just my personal opinion. The thing is, everything is almost perfect in it, the Bond Girls, Bond himself, the villain I have mixed feelings about, but the cinematography and the way the film entirely is recorded along with its pace slams it down for me. Not too thrilled about the soundtrack, either. It's John Barry's weakest effort in the series.
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    It's one of those films I feel strongly opposed to. Just my personal opinion. The thing is, everything is almost perfect in it, the Bond Girls, Bond himself, the villain I have mixed feelings about, but the cinematography and the way the film entirely is recorded along with its pace slams it down for me. Not too thrilled about the soundtrack, either. It's John Barry's weakest effort in the series.

    Tut tut on this one Clark,we beg to differ big time re OP.

    And I know someone else who wont be happy with you !!
    @Benny
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I’m so terribly sorry, Bazza. I hope Rog won’t hold it against me, rest his soul.
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    I didn't know that about Peter Hunt being considered for FYEO. Would have been intriguing to see him handle his second, though I reckon he would have pushed for script changes, I reckon the humour would been reeled in a little! Cubby was, according to John Glens book, having trouble deciding who to helm FYEO, and even special effects maestro Derek Meddings was pushing for the position, before he surprised Glen by offering it to him! I guess Hunt was considered because of the opening section at Tracy's grave?
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I love OP, but I agree it's Barry's worst least great score. There is some pretty great unreleased music but the action theme and suspense motif are a bit uninspired.
    the villain I have mixed feelings about
    Both of them?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    The villain and the henchman? Yes.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I mean, Kamal and Orlov.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    For a moment I completely forgot about Orlov.

    No, not at all. Orlov was brilliant. Ourumov’s prototype.
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