SirHenryLeeChaChing's For Original Fans - Favorite Moments In NTTD (spoilers)

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Fantastic review, @4EverBonded. TSWLM and FYEO are my favourites as well. As for the other films, they might have been terrible with a lesser star. RM managed to elevate those films and make them highly enjoyable just the same. He was of course not alone in this, but a huge factor.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    @Thunderfinger, I want to say thanks for your comments - and back in the 80's thru 90's in my neck of the woods (isn't English fun?!), back in the U.S., in the video stores they did the same thing - except when Brosnan was Bond, they did show Brosnan a bit. But mostly Sean and Roger on posters and displays. And yes, for many fans, Roger Moore was the Bond they grew up with. :)
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    AVTAK is odd: because I usually don't think much of it, then I watch it again and am always pleasantly surprised how much I do enjoy! I think Grace Jones was okay ... ish, but too freaky looking for me to stomach Bond bedding her (I hope she never reads this forum!) - but Tanya was so terrible, really the worst bond girl ever. Maybe she just infected the movie so that it bugs me too much. Good music, Moore still looked pretty darn good for much of the film, he had nice and fun chemistry with Fiona Fullerton (Pola). And Walken was a creepy and good psycho, as he always can be.

    (I like that you include the yelps and screams for Tanya's dialog - ha!)

    Octopussy - if you get rid of the Tarzan yelling, telling a tiger to "sit!" and some other stupid humor (rickshaw, etc.), it was mostly quite enjoyable. In my humble opinion, of course. Maud and Roger had great chemistry; I was glad they brought her back.

    Moonraker was too much OTT, good Lord, I think many will agree. However, it was lush looking and some folks enjoy it a heck of a lot more than I do. I still, to this day, HATE Corrine's death. And that is one thing besides the humor I did not like.

    So in several of Moore's films, it is like the filmmakers just ran amok ... too much, too ridiculous, overblown ... not Moore himself, but the world of Bond went too far in that direction. The filmmakers righted the Bond ship with the fine FYEO, but then veered again at times. All rather like a zigzagging sailboat.
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    Birdleson wrote:
    I actually think that AVTAK is overly maligned. Both Grace Jones and Tanya Roberts should never been allowed to deliver dialogue (and for the latter, that includes yelps and screams), butter Moore's not too bad and Walken's very good. OP and MR are the two that are so silly they're hard for me to stomach through parts.

    You need to watch this scene again as well as the hot-tub scene:

  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Oh gee, thanks for putting up a part of the film I really do not like much. Yuk.

    The hot tub scene was actually fun, and you could sense a nice chemistry with the actors. ;)
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited March 2014 Posts: 12,480
    So what is your favorite Moore film @BAIN123? :D
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Seriously? Japan Town? And here I am in Japan! Oh the irony.
    I would not have minded spending some hot tub time with Roger Moore in the 70's or 80's.
  • edited March 2014 Posts: 11,189
    So what is your favorite Moore film @BAIN123? :D

    Moore is soo sleazy in that hot tub scene. It actually makes me cringe more than the jinx intro in DAD.

    "Umm...that feels wonderful"
    "Feels even better from where I'm sitting...would you like it harder"

    My fav Moore is probably TSWLM.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I don't find it sleezy. Hmmm. :)

    Anyway, I am glad you enjoy TSWLM, it is my very favorite.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    If someone could post a clip from TSWLM when Bond and Anya start walking across the sand dunes and the theme from Laurence of Arabia is heard ... well, I'd love that. :x
    (I do not know how to do that, youtube or anything; sorry!)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Thank you, @Thunderfinger!!! Oh I am a happy girl now. Yeah, baby! I just enjoy this scene and the music. I always remember this part. I like Bach and Moore together. ;;) The music is just soooo romantic and I thought it great fun that it was in this film.

    Hey, some other good videos on there related to TSWLM, too - thanks again!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    You are most welcome, and why not a scene from your other favourite Moore film?



  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Oh I LOVE the St. Cyril's climbing scenes!!! all of them. Thanks! What a nice gift this evening from you, @Thunderfinger. :-bd
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    And with an alternate score as well. Works great!
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited March 2014 Posts: 12,480
    Cool! I appreciate it. I am actually going to sleep soon, but now I have more to smile about. Thanks! (Noticing again that there are many different video clips you can view after you see the selected one, there are plenty more. I will enjoy that tomorrow!)

    Hopefully, when I wake up, I shall see more comments and discussion about the Roger Moore Era. You don't have to be lengthy, folks. But you can be if you'd like. There certainly is enough to talk about, with that many varied films during that time.

    Cheers!

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Sleep well, it is early in the day here, but talk to you tomorrow.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Goodnight, Goodnight! ... Oh wait, I don't want to get started on that Bond film!
    ;))

    Later, everybody ... I-)
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    There are parts of Man With the Golden Gun I really can't stand and have to either turn off or skip everytime they come on.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited March 2014 Posts: 12,480
    major double, triple posting up ahead and NOT my fault! :(
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited March 2014 Posts: 12,480
    bear with me ...
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Good morning, all! Oh I am having computer, or forum glitches, causing double and triple posting - so I beg your pardon, but it is not me doing it ... I will have to finish my thoughts on Roger's films in at least 2 more posts. Here I go ~

    So, it seems with Roger Moore there are some favorites and some well, least favorites, for quite a few people. He was Bond for 7 films, over the course of about 12 years, so naturally the films veered this way and that way over that length of time.
    Here is my personal brief (for me) summary of Roger Moore's Bond films:

    1) The Spy Who Loved Me - a grand adventure, fresh, fantastic PTS; a fun and romantic ride that hit a lovely balance with humor, glamour, exotic locations (the Egyptian pyramids!), a memorable and now iconic henchman, lovely Bond girl (I think they had nice chemistry!) ... a glorious mix that made Bond more fun, exciting, and a splendid cinematic experience; Roger really fully hit his stride in this film, and it is one that I enjoy again and again.

    2) For Your Eyes Only - a very close 2nd favorite; this film gives us a continued nice balance of humor and action, with more seriousness and gritty moments thrown in; a wonderful Bond girl that was not the more usual kind, beautiful locations (Switzerland! Greece!), a very memorable ally in Colombo, and an exciting climb up St. Cyrils; this film pretty much has everything I want in a Bond film.

    3) Live and Let Die - his debut was daring in that it had a different tone (bold titles, too), rock music (kudos to George Martin and Paul!) and the culture was not the usual fare for Bond ... New Orleans, NY, then off to a Caribbean island (well that is more like it, 007), with 1973 funky humor sprinkled throughout, tinged with voodoo (that's different) and given weight by a very good actor as the main villain and the fresh, young, and ever so lovely Jane Seymour. Whew! And Roger stepped into the role with elan and his own inimitable style.

    4) Octopussy - it starts out quite well with a great PTS and for most of the story hums along with an exotic, Indian flavor and dash, finishing with a genuinely serious bomb ticking at a circus in Germany ... some bumps along the way in this adventure because there was some humor that was ill placed, OTT for my tastes; so a film trying to be too many things, but when settled into its main story - and with excellent chemistry between Roger and Maud - it is a very fun, colorful, and enjoyable Bond film.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited March 2014 Posts: 12,480
    I know, I do not understand if it is my computer or what ... just trying to finish posting this is killing me ...
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited March 2014 Posts: 12,480
    ditto

    When I have tried to save my draft it has been posting it in pieces. :(
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    My take on Roger Moore's seven Bond films (Part 2) ~

    5) The Man With a Golden Gun - I was so excited to see Roger's second film! And I left the theatre with mixed feelings. This film was just a mixed bag, with Moore's Bond in more serious mode, yet we get: flying cars, a fantasy island that went on too long complete with a fun house, a superb car chase with car flip then nearly ruined in that moment by the awful pennywhistle slide note (duly noted Barry regretted it); and of course JW Pepper!! (love him/can't stand him - I felt both at the same time!), and also the unsettling sight of Roger slapping Maud, the stupid and thoroughly annoying NicNac, Britt looking beautiful but such an utter useless agent it made me want to scream, and I also did not care for how Bond treated her, either - so a real mixture. Which is a shame because the very fine Christopher Lee is in it and raises the film another few notches with his performance. Oh, I don't like the theme song, either.

    6) A View To A Kill - Roger's last film gave us a good deal of what we expect from him: the gentleman, the sly humor, he is smooth and unflappable. But I don't enjoy the main Bond girl, the annoying Tanya Roberts who goes down as the worst Bond girl of all time for me (edging out Jinx, yes), I thought Grace Jones was scary and freaky looking and did not care for her either, so that did color the entire film for me. Get rid of them both, put Fiona Fullerton as the lead Bond girl (instead of the charming Pola) and it would have improved the entire film. As I mentioned earlier on this thread, when I watch AVTAK I am pleasantly surprised by how much I do enjoy still - the music, Walken's performance, the locations, and Roger for much of the film. But the stupidity that pops up, including "California Girls", wears on me. I don't watch it often, no. I wish Roger had stepped down with Octopussy - but then, the series needed him for one more ... and just like Bond, he did his duty and reported for action. I wish he were better served for his final Bond film.

    Moonraker coming up, let me just get these posted if I can!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Man your glitching today @4EverBonded. :(
  • Maybe I've had too much to drink (surely the 7th glass of vodka wouldnt hurt...), but I can honestly say, that without the Roger Moore era, I probably wouldn't be as big of a Bond fan as I actually am. I can't really explain why, I have no nostalgia for them since I only got into bond in the 2000's, but they are the ones I seem to come back to the most. If I want to just watch a Bond movie, usually it ends up being a Roger Moore one (either that or I spend 30 minutes shuffling mt DVD's, give up and watch the kardashians on TV instead).

    Yet, when I find myself ranking the entries, I find that maybe only 2 or 3 of the movies are even in my top 10, let alone my top 5. I see obvious flaws in movies like Moonraker and TMWTGG, but I can't help help but REALLY enjoy watching them every single time I put one on. Call them cartoonish, call them cheesy, call them over the top, but I love each and every single Roger Moore bond movie to bits (except for you AVTAK, you can sit in the corner and think about what you've done). I'm not saying any of them are better than FRWL or GE or SF, I'm saying I'm JUST crazy enough in my head to enjoy them more.
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    When I heard Roger was gonna be the new Bond I was not overly thrilled. (I didn't think his hair was dark enough)
    I enjoyed him in LALD and I was excited when TMWTGG came out. I liked both films and I was pretty convinced that Moore was James Bond.

    The Moore era ushered in a trend as far as Bond films were concerned: Instead of being trend setters, the Bond films were now following trends. It began with LALD, (Blaxploitation) continued thru TMWTGG (King fu) TSWLM (previous Bond films)

    TSWLM is where he really hit his stride. It has a good blend of humor and suspense and Moore did very well with his sarcasm, wit and overall acting. The plot was somewhat overblown and Jaws, though menacing at times was cartoonish at others but it was a good film. I liked the scene when Anya tells him that he killed her lover. Moore is very good in this scene and one of my all time favorites during his 12 year run.

    What good TSWLM did the producers threw it all way with 1979's MR. This is by far (IMO) the absolute WORST BOND FILM of the series. It is basically TSWLM on steroids (LSD and several other choice drugs). Aside from the great PTS, I really hated this film when I saw it. I was so disappointed that I got up and stormed out of the theater just as the final credits began to roll. (It had been my custom to watch the credits and see what the the next film was going to be but after MR, I just did not give a damn anymore.

    I had liked Moore initially but I was swearing off Bond after MR. I was convinced that they had finally killed the golden goose. I had no dislike toward Moore, my anger was at the direction the films had taken and I was pretty well done with it by that time.


  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    My take on Roger Moore's second Bond Films (Part 3 - final) ~ B-)

    7) Moonraker - My least favorite, yet I know some love it outright for its glorious spectacle, beautiful locations, and fun. For me, Roger looked great, his acting was fine - but all around him became far too often too OTT for my tastes, with the godawful Bondola and double taking pigeon and above all Jaws as a buffoon. I didn't like Jaws flapping like a bird and slamming into the circus tent at the end of the PTS; but it foretold the entire movie, didn't it? Bond in space? Maybe, but this wasn't my cup of tea. Also, Drax's performance was a bit too flat for me. I liked Bond shooting the assassin out of the tree; yes, that was vintage Bond. But c'est la vie, after this one we had the truly great FYEO. I left the theatre mumbling after Moonraker; not a happy Bond fan at that moment, no. And Corrine's death (as I have said before) still bothers me.

    Whew! #:-S Well, I got my 7 films listed in my personal order. But again, I apologize for my computer/posting problems. I am not double posting, but I cannot seem to even save a draft correctly. Constant errors popping up and posting when I did not push the post button (I think MayDay, NicNac, Drax, and Stacey are involved somehow with this evil glitching).

    Moving on, please comment any way you'd like. Because I love Moore's films, for the most part, and truly enjoyed him as Bond, I tend to write a bit more. But you can just give a sentence or two, bullet points/checklist, or any details you want. What do you think about Roger Moore's Bond and his era?

    Cheers! Off to a well deserved breakfast now ... :)>-
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Thanks for joining us, @SirCLMDBCRaig. Too much drink never seems to hurt watching any Bond film, in my humble (hic!) opinion. ;)
    I get what you say about Moore's films in general being fun, watchable, and a good time. Yes, I see flaws in most of them, too. I find TSWLM and FYEO only the two most worthy for my top tier rankings. We do get a smorgasbord to view with Moore, since he was our longest serving Bond.

    @OHMSS69, I am with you for the most part for sure (although I think I dearly love FYEO and you don't). I especially like what you wrote here:
    TSWLM is where he really hit his stride. It has a good blend of humor and suspense and Moore did very well with his sarcasm, wit and overall acting. The plot was somewhat overblown and Jaws, though menacing at times was cartoonish at others but it was a good film. I liked the scene when Anya tells him that he killed her lover. Moore is very good in this scene and one of my all time favorites during his 12 year run.
    I so agree! I also like when Anya mentions that he had been married and he stops her from going on; that was nicely and seriously played by Roger.

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