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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,716
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    'Justice League' reshoots cost headaches, and will lead to the CG removal of Cavill's mustache, thanks to his 'Mission: Impossible 6' schedule:

    http://variety.com/2017/film/news/justice-league-reshoots-1202502433/

    Did WB make the call to CGI the 'stache out, as it would go faster, or did Cruise refuse that Cavill shave it off and thus wear a fake one in M:I:6 because 'we do it for real in this franchise'?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Anyone else think the Comic old cop who chases Batman with his young rookie in TDKR was a reference to Clifton James in the Bond franchise?

    I'd say that's too specific a reference to be true. Cinema is full of comic relief cops, or comic relief characters in general who act goofy or appear wide-eyed in the face of the hero to make them seem all the more amazing in contrast.

    If the cop in TDKR suddenly started slurring white people by calling Batman a "crazy cracker" or started blurting out Batman's secret identity to the rest of the cops, then we'd have some confirmation that is was a definite tribute to the Louisiana sheriff, but otherwise the guy is just another brief extra in a big blockbuster to me.

    SUPER-HERO? ON WHOSE SIDE?!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    'Justice League' reshoots cost headaches, and will lead to the CG removal of Cavill's mustache, thanks to his 'Mission: Impossible 6' schedule:

    http://variety.com/2017/film/news/justice-league-reshoots-1202502433/

    Did WB make the call to CGI the 'stache out, as it would go faster, or did Cruise refuse that Cavill shave it off and wear a fake on on M:I:6 because 'we do it for real in this franchise'?

    The route they're taking to hide it now is likely due to the time constraints - Cavill was initially supposed to be able to finish M:I before having to do reshoots on this, which are pricier and more extensive than usual for a film. Same issue with Ezra Miller and jumping back and forth between this and the 'Fantastic Beasts' sequel.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    There's nothing wrong with reshoots but 2 months of reshoots? That's ridiculous.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong with reshoots but 2 months of reshoots? That's ridiculous.

    On top of the extra $25 million they're sinking into it, whereas apparently on average reshoots only run $5-10 million.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Clearly WB have no problem hemorrhaging cash.

    With all the advancements in hair and makeup couldn't Cavill just wear a prosthetic tash? So many issues can be easily solved but some folks prefer to do things the hard way.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Clearly WB have no problem hemorrhaging cash.

    With all the advancements in hair and makeup couldn't Cavill just wear a prosthetic tash? So many issues can be easily solved but some folks prefer to do things the hard way.

    I like to think he'll spend the next two months wandering the set with cruddy green paint awkwardly staining his mustache.
  • edited July 2017 Posts: 5,767
    JL being an effect-driven film, it indeed makes more sense to CG the ´stache out. A fake moustache in M:I6 would probably be more obvious.

    I hope they won´t reshoot many closeups ;-).
  • Creasy47 wrote: »
    'Justice League' reshoots cost headaches, and will lead to the CG removal of Cavill's mustache, thanks to his 'Mission: Impossible 6' schedule:

    http://variety.com/2017/film/news/justice-league-reshoots-1202502433/

    Did WB make the call to CGI the 'stache out, as it would go faster, or did Cruise refuse that Cavill shave it off and thus wear a fake one in M:I:6 because 'we do it for real in this franchise'?

    The story says Paramount refused to have Cavill shave off his mustache.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    The only true facial hair on 'M:I:6' :

    roger-moore-33333.jpg

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    Wow, never had seen that picture in such a large format. I´m really a fan of beards, but that thing looks atrocious.
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    Damn... I haven't watched a Moore film since he passed, that includes his era of Bond. That pic damn near brought a tear to my eye... but I agree, he doesn't have a very appealing beard.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    There's nothing wrong with reshoots but 2 months of reshoots? That's ridiculous.

    On top of the extra $25 million they're sinking into it, whereas apparently on average reshoots only run $5-10 million.

    It really is insane, and it's also very worrying. Reshoots on these projects aren't new or out of the ordinary, but Christ. This tells me that Joss and Warner are working overtime to fix whatever was left when Snyder departed, and I worry that a lot of last minute changes are being made that will come off as forced and incongruous in the final cut.

    The movie already has a built in box office risk, but adding so much more money to a bloated budget won't help. Warner are not Disney, nor can they afford so many movies with no legs on them.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    The only true facial hair on 'M:I:6' :

    roger-moore-33333.jpg

    I love this character. Grumpy and misanthropic, but he sure knows how to get things done!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    B25 will have one month to itself then, assuming nothing else pops up in between.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    November 1st and November 8th 2019 have been taken by Disney and WB/DC for yet to be announced films.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    November 1st and November 8th 2019 have been taken by Disney and WB/DC for yet to be announced films.

    There's also an untitled X-Men film on November 22nd and 'Frozen 2' on November 27th.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Isnt that X-MEN: DARK PHOENIX ?
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Isnt that X-MEN: DARK PHOENIX ?

    That one is for November 2018, I think? Not sure though.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Maybe it is the spinoff they talked about earlier.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    November 1st and November 8th 2019 have been taken by Disney and WB/DC for yet to be announced films.

    There's also an untitled X-Men film on November 22nd and 'Frozen 2' on November 27th.

    Completely forgot about those. Looks like Bond 25 is going to have a fair bit of competition.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Suicide Squad 2 is set for November 1st, no?
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
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    The only true facial hair on 'M:I:6' :

    roger-moore-33333.jpg

    Just curious, what movie is that from?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    North Sea Hijack aka ffolkes.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    http://screenrant.com/flashpoint-dceu-movie-wonder-woman-evil/

    Well they really could not make the film without her *rollseyes*
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    With Batman stagnant, Diana has to step up. And at least she's likable. ;)
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Jeffrey Dean Morgan could steal the whole movie as Thomas Wayne, I am a fan of Flashpoint I know it often splits fans.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Jeffrey Dean Morgan could steal the whole movie as Thomas Wayne, I am a fan of Flashpoint I know it often splits fans.

    It would be interesting, but the shock of a Murder Batman will be gone and not feel like a big deal because of how Affleck's Batman was portrayed. "You kill? Well guess what, so does your little boy all grown up in another universe. Trippy, huh?" That's why Thomas's Batman was so interesting, in that he was a polar opposite to how Bruce would've acted. Now, there is no difference between them, just who can be more sadistic in killing.

    I just want them to go away and get the Flash movie made at this point. One wonders how many more director changes or plot rewrites it can have before they just give up. The only films I am interested in seeing from the entire possible ones are Wonder Woman's, Man of Steel 2 and maybe Green Lantern Corps. because of the potential for a space buddy cop film. I'll hold out on Aquaman until I see a trailer, but I'm more hopeful than I was a year ago at least.

    It's funny because I think DC are where Marvel has been for me for a while, before around 2016 when things changed in a big way. I don't really care for the exploits of most of the characters outside Cap and maybe Tony in the MCU, but at this stage in the films we'll be getting new Spider-Man and Black Panther films and that finally does excite me in a way the "old" Marvel didn't outside a couple of characters. Civil War was less important to me as a movie, and more valuable as a sign of cool things to come. I think I'll end up enjoying the second half of the MCU than I did the first half, if things go well.

    But with DC, my interest is just dead and even if they have great premises, I don't trust them to follow through with them with any kind of skill. They couldn't adapt The Dark Knight Returns at all, they absolutely ruined Suicide Squad and that brilliant idea, and who knows what else is coming.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited August 2017 Posts: 25,092
    Jeffrey Dean Morgan could steal the whole movie as Thomas Wayne, I am a fan of Flashpoint I know it often splits fans.

    It would be interesting, but the shock of a Murder Batman will be gone and not feel like a big deal because of how Affleck's Batman was portrayed. "You kill? Well guess what, so does your little boy all grown up in another universe. Trippy, huh?" That's why Thomas's Batman was so interesting, in that he was a polar opposite to how Bruce would've acted. Now, there is no difference between them, just who can be more sadistic in killing.

    I just want them to go away and get the Flash movie made at this point. One wonders how many more director changes or plot rewrites it can have before they just give up. The only films I am interested in seeing from the entire possible ones are Wonder Woman's, Man of Steel 2 and maybe Green Lantern Corps. because of the potential for a space buddy cop film. I'll hold out on Aquaman until I see a trailer, but I'm more hopeful than I was a year ago at least.

    It's funny because I think DC are where Marvel has been for me for a while, before around 2016 when things changed in a big way. I don't really care for the exploits of most of the characters outside Cap and maybe Tony in the MCU, but at this stage in the films we'll be getting new Spider-Man and Black Panther films and that finally does excite me in a way the "old" Marvel didn't outside a couple of characters. Civil War was less important to me as a movie, and more valuable as a sign of cool things to come. I think I'll end up enjoying the second half of the MCU than I did the first half, if things go well.

    But with DC, my interest is just dead and even if they have great premises, I don't trust them to follow through with them with any kind of skill. They couldn't adapt The Dark Knight Returns at all, they absolutely ruined Suicide Squad and that brilliant idea, and who knows what else is coming.

    True they have undermined Flashpoint Batman as you point out there is not enough contrast, perhaps if Batfleck had a few films to establish a more restrained Batman it may work better. I liked BvS though DC/Warner have set there stall out. JL looks way too CGI heavy my enthusiasm for JL is luke warm at best, I have yet to see WW though friends love it I suspect I will. Across Marvel and DC if a film appears with great writing I may awaken from my superhero hangover, think I am becoming desensitised to CG superhero effects as we have seen it all before.

    New characters as in new to cinema is the way to go, Black Panther looks interesting though hopefully it won't fall into generic Marvel category.

    I wish DC had the courage to do close adaptions with minor tweaks only, so many great story's available to them.

    Hollywood seem to panic across the board now not exclusive to DC and Marvel, Star Wars is suffering from the fear of going too far beyond the formula comfort zone. Admittedly DC still not found there formula.
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