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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited June 2021 Posts: 18,270
    coco1997 wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Thoughts and prayers for you and his family and friends. Dogs are better than most people. What a cute little guy.
    That’s a rather nasty thing to say. A human has a soul, a conscience, a moral compass to differentiate right from wrong.

    Many humans do a pretty poor job of demonstrating this.

    Every human being is given their own free will to conduct themselves as they see fit. It is true to say that some make more of a success of this than others, to put it mildly. Upbringing, environmental factors, peers and life choices and experiences all have a role to play too. No one is born evil. They are made that way by other factors such as those listed above. Original sin is a doctrine I don't subscribe to.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Thoughts and prayers for you and his family and friends. Dogs are better than most people. What a cute little guy.
    That’s a rather nasty thing to say. A human has a soul, a conscience, a moral compass to differentiate right from wrong. Something that animals don’t have. To compare humans and animals is wrong on so many levels.

    A human being is something absolutely sacred.

    I see nothing wrong with @MaxCasino's post, quite frankly. Dogs can be far better companions than most other people, and this is me saying this, someone who isn't even a dog person. Also, even if there were such a thing as a "soul", I'm pretty sure dogs have one too. I'm not even convinced that dogs are entirely without a conscience or moral compass either. As for people, yeah, we're supposed to have a conscience, but I'm not seeing too many act on it. Lastly, why would comparing humans and animals from an emotional POV be wrong? The friendship between a man and his dog can be stronger than any other. (Oh, and biologically speaking, we are animals too.)

    Besides, @ringfire211, to @MajorDSmythe one particular dog meant a lot; he was a good friend and his loss hurts. How the Major chooses to mourn is entirely up to him. The fact that we are talking about a dog and not a human being doesn't make the loss any less hard.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I'm sorry to read about the death of your dog, @MajorDSmythe. Beautiful creature.
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    Heartbroken for you, @MajorDSmythe.
    My family dog died a couple summers ago, and is sadly missed. I've had several pets pass on over the years and it never gets easier. I still tear up when I think of my beloved childhood dog, Bogie. He was my best friend in the world as a teen. He died in my young adulthood and since then have had many other pets. But my heart still belongs to Bogie.
    My condolences.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    This is a nice song about a dog.

    My Dog & Me - John Hiatt
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Thoughts and prayers for you and his family and friends. Dogs are better than most people. What a cute little guy.
    That’s a rather nasty thing to say. A human has a soul, a conscience, a moral compass to differentiate right from wrong. Something that animals don’t have. To compare humans and animals is wrong on so many levels.

    A human being is something absolutely sacred.

    I see nothing wrong with @MaxCasino's post, quite frankly. Dogs can be far better companions than most other people, and this is me saying this, someone who isn't even a dog person. Also, even if there were such a thing as a "soul", I'm pretty sure dogs have one too. I'm not even convinced that dogs are entirely without a conscience or moral compass either. As for people, yeah, we're supposed to have a conscience, but I'm not seeing too many act on it. Lastly, why would comparing humans and animals from an emotional POV be wrong? The friendship between a man and his dog can be stronger than any other. (Oh, and biologically speaking, we are animals too.)

    Besides, @ringfire211, to @MajorDSmythe one particular dog meant a lot; he was a good friend and his loss hurts. How the Major chooses to mourn is entirely up to him. The fact that we are talking about a dog and not a human being doesn't make the loss any less hard.
    I guess that’s the problem. You seem to hold animals on the same level as humans. Which is simply wrong. Would you care for your dog or cat more (or even the same) as your child? I would hope the answer is no. If you have stronger feelings for your pet than for your child then there is something seriously wrong somewhere. Maybe some of you aren’t parents but as a parent this hits close to home when human life is devalued.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Libuse Safrankova has passed away at the age of 68.
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  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Thoughts and prayers for you and his family and friends. Dogs are better than most people. What a cute little guy.
    That’s a rather nasty thing to say. A human has a soul, a conscience, a moral compass to differentiate right from wrong. Something that animals don’t have. To compare humans and animals is wrong on so many levels.

    A human being is something absolutely sacred.

    I see nothing wrong with @MaxCasino's post, quite frankly. Dogs can be far better companions than most other people, and this is me saying this, someone who isn't even a dog person. Also, even if there were such a thing as a "soul", I'm pretty sure dogs have one too. I'm not even convinced that dogs are entirely without a conscience or moral compass either. As for people, yeah, we're supposed to have a conscience, but I'm not seeing too many act on it. Lastly, why would comparing humans and animals from an emotional POV be wrong? The friendship between a man and his dog can be stronger than any other. (Oh, and biologically speaking, we are animals too.)

    Besides, @ringfire211, to @MajorDSmythe one particular dog meant a lot; he was a good friend and his loss hurts. How the Major chooses to mourn is entirely up to him. The fact that we are talking about a dog and not a human being doesn't make the loss any less hard.
    I guess that’s the problem. You seem to hold animals on the same level as humans. Which is simply wrong. Would you care for your dog or cat more (or even the same) as your child? I would hope the answer is no. If you have stronger feelings for your pet than for your child then there is something seriously wrong somewhere. Maybe some of you aren’t parents but as a parent this hits close to home when human life is devalued.

    As much as a child? Yes. Life, human or not, is always precious. Choosing to value one over the other is just callous.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited June 2021 Posts: 24,179
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Thoughts and prayers for you and his family and friends. Dogs are better than most people. What a cute little guy.
    That’s a rather nasty thing to say. A human has a soul, a conscience, a moral compass to differentiate right from wrong. Something that animals don’t have. To compare humans and animals is wrong on so many levels.

    A human being is something absolutely sacred.

    I see nothing wrong with @MaxCasino's post, quite frankly. Dogs can be far better companions than most other people, and this is me saying this, someone who isn't even a dog person. Also, even if there were such a thing as a "soul", I'm pretty sure dogs have one too. I'm not even convinced that dogs are entirely without a conscience or moral compass either. As for people, yeah, we're supposed to have a conscience, but I'm not seeing too many act on it. Lastly, why would comparing humans and animals from an emotional POV be wrong? The friendship between a man and his dog can be stronger than any other. (Oh, and biologically speaking, we are animals too.)

    Besides, @ringfire211, to @MajorDSmythe one particular dog meant a lot; he was a good friend and his loss hurts. How the Major chooses to mourn is entirely up to him. The fact that we are talking about a dog and not a human being doesn't make the loss any less hard.
    I guess that’s the problem. You seem to hold animals on the same level as humans. Which is simply wrong. Would you care for your dog or cat more (or even the same) as your child? I would hope the answer is no. If you have stronger feelings for your pet than for your child then there is something seriously wrong somewhere. Maybe some of you aren’t parents but as a parent this hits close to home when human life is devalued.

    As much as a child? Yes. Life, human or not, is always precious. Choosing to value one over the other is just callous.

    Absolutely correct.

    No, of course I'd never choose a pet over a child. That wasn't the moral dilemma, though. It was about how animals can be better than people. But hey, I don't think I want to belabour the point. Don't worry, @ringfire211, if I'm ever a parent -- and I hope my soon-to-be-wife and I will be fortunate enough to get there sooner rather than later ( ;-) ) -- obviously I will dedicate my life to the well-being of that child and no dog, cat or pet python can ever come between us. :-)

    But from here, I prefer to let the thread go back on topic. ;-)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I think the pain of loss comes from the compassion residing in the hearts of those left behind, and I think many of us have enough love in our hearts for family, friends and even four legged companions. To ever worry about what others think. Grief is a very personal thing, I wouldn't belittle anyone's grief or give a hierarchy, of those you should feel pain, hurt, or sympathy for.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    This is a nice song about people.

  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Just learned of the passing of actor Ned Beatty.
    https://www.tmz.com/2021/06/13/ned-beatty-dead-dies-actor-network-superman-deliverance/
    Wonderful actor. RIP
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Benny wrote: »
    Just learned of the passing of actor Ned Beatty.
    https://www.tmz.com/2021/06/13/ned-beatty-dead-dies-actor-network-superman-deliverance/
    Wonderful actor. RIP

    Truly one of the great underrated actors. My dad thinks he should have won the Oscar for Network. To get the part a day before filming, and get a thundering performance like that, is true acting. He did all types of parts, and always succeeded, even if it wasn’t the best material. A true loss for all. Also, one of the best Disney/Pixar villains in Toy Story 3!
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    Benny wrote: »
    Just learned of the passing of actor Ned Beatty.
    https://www.tmz.com/2021/06/13/ned-beatty-dead-dies-actor-network-superman-deliverance/
    Wonderful actor. RIP

    Damn. Always liked him.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Ned was great in Superman The Movie, good double act with Hackman. R. I. P.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    RIP Ned Beatty, such a talented actor.
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    Ten days after being victim of a hit and run, actress Lisa Banes has passed away from her wounds, aged 65 :

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/15/arts/lisa-banes-death-scooter.html
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    Whovians the world over are in mourning : Jackie Lan (First Doctor companion Dodo Chaplet) has passed away, aged 79 :

    https://www.doctorwhonews.net/2021/06/jackie_lane_1941_2021.html
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Wes. He turn 57

    https://amp.nos.nl/artikel/2386757-kameroense-zanger-wes-bekend-van-wereldhit-alane-overleden.html



    One of my favorites, he also made second song who be litle hit named ''Awa Awa '


  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    ToTheRight wrote: »

    Sad news.

    Come to think of it he could have played Milton Krest in a faithful adaptation of Ian Fleming’s 'The Hildebrand Rarity' (1960). Krest was described there as having a face exactly like that of Humphrey Bogart.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/30/donald-rumsfeld-dies-ex-pentagon-chief-iraq-afghanistan-wars/7810730002/

    Sorry to be cynical, but good riddance. We’ll be cleaning up his and Cheney’s oil wars and rich people’s tax cuts for a long time.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I'll always remember Donald Rumsfeld for this:

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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »

    Sad news.

    Come to think of it he could have played Milton Krest in a faithful adaptation of Ian Fleming’s 'The Hildebrand Rarity' (1960). Krest was described there as having a face exactly like that of Humphrey Bogart.

    That would have been brilliant casting! Good call.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited June 2021 Posts: 18,270
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »

    Sad news.

    Come to think of it he could have played Milton Krest in a faithful adaptation of Ian Fleming’s 'The Hildebrand Rarity' (1960). Krest was described there as having a face exactly like that of Humphrey Bogart.

    That would have been brilliant casting! Good call.

    Yes, it's a shame he was never used in a Bond film. It would've been one way to have had Humphrey Bogart as Krest without acting having Humphrey Bogart as Krest! :)

    Still, Anthony Zerbe was good in the part and I'm glad they kept the literary Krest's alcoholism as part of his character as well as his sleazy nature.
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Come to think of it he could have played Milton Krest in a faithful adaptation of Ian Fleming’s 'The Hildebrand Rarity' (1960). Krest was described there as having a face exactly like that of Humphrey Bogart.

    Not quite: "To Bond the oddest thing about Mr. Krest was his voice. It was a soft, most attractive lisping through the teeth. It was exactly the voice of the late Humphrey Bogart."

  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Revelator wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Come to think of it he could have played Milton Krest in a faithful adaptation of Ian Fleming’s 'The Hildebrand Rarity' (1960). Krest was described there as having a face exactly like that of Humphrey Bogart.

    Not quite: "To Bond the oddest thing about Mr. Krest was his voice. It was a soft, most attractive lisping through the teeth. It was exactly the voice of the late Humphrey Bogart."

    Ah! Thanks, @Revelator. I was relying on my sometimes rusty memory and it's let me down. Didn't get a chance to check a copy of FYEO before I typed that but evidently I should have. I've just kicked myself! ;)
  • edited June 2021 Posts: 2,917
    It happens to the best of us! Whenever I need to quickly check something in Fleming, I consult Project Gutenberg Canada, which has uploaded all but one of the Bond books, and do a text search. Fleming is public domain in Canada and the uploads are entirely legal.
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