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It’s proof that just talking scenes can be better than a action scene at times.
I'm not sure I can quite agree with the comments that the film itself is completely perfect, however. I've always felt that, as much as I love the epic ending with the ark being opened, it's a little weird that the hero closes his eyes and does absolutely nothing during the climax. From a thematic point of view, it's perfect, since the movie is, at its heart, about an atheist who gains faith. But from a cinematic point of view, I don't know if it quite works.
I also think that the middle sags just a bit. The scenes with Marion and Belloq are fun but they don't do anything to advance the story. We spend a good ten minutes with Marion trying to outsmart him and escape but she never does. So why couldn't we just take those ten minutes out?
Sorry, guys. I'm just nitpicking. It's a brilliant film, one of my favorites of all time. I've seen it a hundred times and will watch it a hundred more. I just don't think it's as perfect as some people think.
Yeah I always think it's a shame that they have the plot of Indy being a suspected Commie spy, but then just drop it. That part of the film has a bit of a feeling of the danger and drama of the first three which then just dissipates into nothing.
Having Indy in the middle of two factions, the Russian and a group of FBI men or something, could have added a nice dynamic.
I also think there's a chance for a father/son moral rather lost at the end- there could have been a parallel with the aliens having nurtured the human race but not trusting them to look after themselves or something like that which Indy could have learned from and given him a connection moment with Mutt, but really the ending doesn't mean very much.
I don't mind that at all, but I do think the one single flaw with the construction of the film is that Indy's knowledge about closing their eyes isn't seeded anywhere. It needed a scene where he read that or was told it, and maybe even scoffed at it - but by the ending he has realised the Ark's power and heeds it.
Oh no, I wouldn't lose that at all; it's all perfect character stuff. I would say Raiders never sags at all.
Agreed! I also love how it's used very similarly at the end when the ark is opened - it starts out beautiful and then morphs into something terrifying. It's just a wonderful example of how music can be used to play on the audience's emotions.
Yeah, very true. I love its use in the end as well and when Jones is in archeologist mode in the Arab clothing, closing in on the Ark's location.
Yeah, I know what you mean. That's true. But I just feel it's also a tune that's very cool to listen to, even if it has a celestial feel to it.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, although I imagine the vast majority of people would agree with you more than me. It IS lovely character stuff, but it's at a point in the movie where I'm always just wanting Spielberg and co. to get on with it. The good guys are literally raiding the ark and we're cutting back and forth to the tent shenanigans, and while it's all great, it just feels like it's holding back the momentum. But again, that's just me. I'll shut up now :)
Apparently there's a chance we might hear some IJ5 news in a little while as there's a Disney presentation going on at CinemaCon at the moment, and they were playing the Raiders March as people were sitting down. Fingers crossed for some news.
You are not alone in thinking Raiders is less than perfect...
Sadly, we got nothing from CinemaCon. Maybe for the Star Wars celebration in May…
They did show that first image from Barbie, which comes out a month after this one does. It could simply be a Disney thing, though. I know John Wick 4 is about as far out as those two but I'm banking on Lionsgate showing a trailer or some footage for it at their presentation tomorrow.
It's Indy so it's pretty much guaranteed to do well, so maybe they're happy to hold off as long as they can before starting any campaigns.
I keep forgetting about that! I hope it delivers. Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb was perfection at the time and had one of the scariest levels for me when I was younger.
I could see it flopping or at least “ underperforming “ to be honest.Young people today won’t have much affection for the character especially after the last instalment which is almost universally seen as the worst of the series.Also,Harrison Ford is nearly 80 and not the box office draw he used to be.
People flocked to KOTCS when it came out because the classic trilogy was so popular but the stink of that film means there won’t be as much desire for a new one.Indeed ,a lot of people find the idea of a new Indy film at Fords age ridiculous.Also add in the bad rep Kathleen Kennedy and Disney have in the public right now and ( especially if it turns out the film is yet another bait and switch ) it could easily be a disaster.
Haha! Indiana Jones and the Two Mrs. Carrolls.
Yes :)
I don't think Kathleen Kennedy nor Disney have the bad rep amongst the public that your Youtube channels would have you believe. Most people don't care. They just see Indy.
Multiple ways, sadly. Do not underestimate the power of modern Hollywood to destroy a legacy
I highly doubt that any boycott is even of a slight concern to Disney; especially one being called for by a vocal minority over an opinion on a bill that I hadn't even heard of til now.
Again, I don't think the consensus among the public aligns with what your favourite Youtube channels say. 200 million subscribers to their streaming service and an increase in profits in the last quarter says more than enough.
Do you think they're going to make Indiana Jones gay all of a sudden?