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Most of us here have some interest about how the Bond sausage gets made and know that Michael Wilson has played a huge part in the franchise for nearly 40 years, and has something to do with some of the questionable creative choices such as Brofeld. But Wilson is never mentioned by this "thinkpieces" that blame it all on his half-sister. I suppose it's the same with Star Wars. So, if anybody wants to play the blame game, it could be interesting to see a few things first
Kennedy has definitely made mistakes, especially when it comes to picking creatives (in addition to Gareth Evans stepping down from the Rogue One reshoots, Lord & Miller getting fired from Solo and Colin Trevorrow leaving episode IX, Josh Trank was hired as a director to an unnamed "Star Wars Story", then fired in the middle of the Fantastic Four fiasco), but she isn't responsible for everything. The main issues with "modern" Star Wars come from Bob Iger having unreasonable expectations about the release calendar and rushing projects into production (while merchandising would have largely compensated the box-office), and the death of Carrie Fisher, which threw a huge wrench over the story for episode IX.
That doesn’t mean Kennedy doesn’t deserve some blame. I think she’s been pretty open about how SOLO didn’t work out. And that’s the only film that actually lost money. All other films made over a billion dollars, including the disappointing TROS. So if you wonder how she still has a job, it’s because the successes outweigh the failings.
But now we’re onto DIAL OF DESTINY. Critics aren’t too thrilled about it, but we’ve yet to see the bigger picture when it comes to how audiences react. I do think the possibility of a flop is real, because the thing is does anyone outside of GenXers wanna see a 80 year old Harrison Ford play Indiana jones? Does Indy even appeal to younger audiences? This movie feels like a personal pet project for Harrison Ford that Kennedy was obliged to give him.
Marion didn’t take over the movie from Indy though..
Define "take over the movie"?
“OH NO A WOMAN IS GONNA GIRLBOSS BOND!”
Hey, nobody girlbosses Bond, unless they’re Judi Dench.
But then again, I’d let Eva Green girlboss me to the point I’ll lay down on the floor and tell her that I’m her floor mat.
Oh wait, we’re talking about Indy right? Back on topic…
Have you seen the film then?
Besides, Indy was younger then. Besides which, we don’t *know* Helena takes over the movie,
She probably could steal the film though, as on balance, she’s probably a better actress than Ford is an actor. I don’t think she will, if for no other reason than I don’t think she as a performer and person of her generation would even *want* to.
Hilariously, at least one of the YouTube videos complaining about this has (or had, I assume someone caught it) Eva Green as Vesper for the thumbnail instead of PWB because they couldn’t tell the difference lol.
Star Wars - Yes, Force Awakens was huge but couldn’t fail due to playing it safe and remaking A New Hope.Although how stupid was she not to have Ford,Hamill,and Fisher not share the screen and depict them all as failures?
The Last Jedi lost 50% of its audience from the previous film and was so bad that it truly broke the fan base and lore to the point that the following spin off,Solo,actually LOST money.
Rogue One.Ok that actually turned out to be pretty good.
The Rise Of Skywalker.What should have been the Avengers:Endgame of the saga was the lowest grossing film of the trilogy.
Star Wars Galsctic cruise.A ridiculously overpriced “ pleasure cruise “ had just announced its shut down after less than two years open.
Rian Johnson being handed a trilogy before TLJ came out.Hmm.. I wonder why it hasn’t happened.
Rogue Squadron announced with Patty Kenkins as director.Cancelled.
Rangers Of the new Republic.Cancelled because they fired Gina Carano for speaking her mind.
A SW trilogy from the writers of Game Of Thrones.Cancelled as they preferred to go work for Netflix instead.
Willow tv series.Woke garbage that NOBODY watched.It’s so bad that it’s been pulled from Disney+.
And now Indy 5.300 million dollars wasted after being delayed a year due to reshoots and unveiled at Cannes to poor reviews A MONTH before the film opens.Starring an unfunny feminist who couldn’t have been bothered to watch any Bond movies before writing for a BOND movie.
Seriously,KK must know where bodies are buried for her to still have a job
I'd rather you gave me an answer from your own thoughts considering you made a point of saying I didn't value them previously.
Gosh. You’re quite a silly person, aren’t you?
I'm not sure how much blame lies at the feet of Kathleen (the force is female!) Kennedy, but I left the The Force Awakens feeling very underwhelmed and disappointed with such a Mary-Sue for a main character. So I'm sure like a lot of viewers, according to the box office figures, I didn't bother with the other sequels.
I'm in no hurry but I'll catch up with Dial of Destiny at some point. But the general consensus seems to be 'unnecessary'
Which reminds me of a quote from Jurassic Park, "Just because we could, doesn't mean that we should..."
They were never canon, and Lucas was gonna have it struck himself had he proceeded with the sequel trilogy and not sold it to Disney.
Yes I remember a poster on here telling me that Nomi absolutely definitely would get the better of Bond and make him look silly repeatedly, because that's how films and 'woke' (yawn) are nowadays. Then the film came out... and she got the better of him precisely 0 times.
If you watch TSWLM you'll see Anya making Bond look silly many more times than Nomi manages.
What is the source of the fear these men on YouTube etc. have of Waller-Bridge? I don't get what it is which started it for them: it's not like she's done a lot of big movies, and there's nothing hugely overly feminist about Fleabag- it just happens to be about a woman. Was it just because she briefly played a robot in Star Wars?
She's never really spearheaded anything large enough, Hollywood-wise at least, for anyone to seriously claim that she would ruin something without having seen it. I find it all a tad bizzare.
I'd love to hear something genuine and well thought out, if such a thing exists.
I haven't seen that video (it's enough to read about these complaints, why bother getting into them in depth if I haven't seen the film yet) but I was wondering if the person in the video saw the film or is just reporting other people's comments.
But I'm not going to let some random jackass tell me if a movie is good or not. After all these years, I think I can decide that for myself.
It's funny how entrenched people get on this issue. I would say it's a reflection of the power of these character and these franchises. Willow, which was brought out as a TV series isn't even available on the Disney streaming now it was so bad, didn't get nearly as heated as this debate.
Kathleen set herself up as the "face" of Lucasfilm, or as some have indicated George Lucas set her up as the face. A role she has embraced and owned. Funny how some indicate that she has not played a role in where Lucas Film finds itself today. My question would be where does the buck stop?
Her choices in the creative talent behind the camera have undermined and brought damage to the brand. Any trilogy that has less attendance with each passing film is showing problems. Are they all her problems? No, obviously the blame can be spread, but I ask again where does the buck stop?
Lucasfilm has tarnished the Star Wars brand, the three trilogy films earned less with each passing film. The TV shows have gotten progressively worse. I would love someone to explain the character motivations in Obi-Wan.
They had a chance to get a hit on the board with this Indy movie. Have they landed it? I suppose time will tell. Some will go out of curiosity, others to return to a childhood hero. Will either audience be satisfied? Guess we will find out when the movie releases.
Clearly they were playing up the Ford factor and as such have given a large runway and marketing to this factor.
To those that think the Marion character is the same as Rey in Star Wars. Please think carefully. Marion was a strong character, but she didn't lecture Indy. She didn't rescue Indy. She didn't need to, she was a fully fleshed out character. With Rey we have a character that can immediately fly a spaceship and figure out how it runs and operates. How did she get such knowledge? Don't know. She is able to pull the Jedi mind trick without any instruction, how? Don't know. She is able to battle a Sith and beat him without any formal training? How? We don't know. Does she fail? Nope. Unlike Luke's character arc, she doesn't fail, nor do any of her decisions result in negative consequences for anyone else. There is no satisfying arc for her character. Marion was fleshed out as a tough cookie. Who after being ditched by her lover and without her father was able to carve out an existence in a tough land. She saw this offer of Indy has a ticket out. She became a partner, but she still needed rescuing. There was a character development. The only thing Rey had was an unknown parent, and being abandoned on a planet. But none of this was developed nor was this at all a bump in her road.
It’s the Matt Walsh from the Daily Wire, just another stooge of the “anti-woke” brigade, I wouldn’t give him the time of day.
A lot of boys were upset because the robot she played was a “woke droid”, basically a droid demanding the liberation of her kind from slavery.
The video host/presenter is a well known right-wing extremist in the U.S.
Wouldn't movie critiques by people who, you know, have movie-themed channels on YouTube be preferable to political agitators?