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That's all I can ask for. If it's better than KOTCS, I'll consider it a success. Mangold's a great director so I hope he can deliver.
Film mags cater to an older crowd who has followed Indy's adventures since the eighties and wants some degree of positivity. Of course, they'll say that it's a pleasing conclusion to the adventures of one of the greatest characters in all movie history, as nobody in their right mind would claim that it's the best episode since Raiders.
YouTubers rely more on outrage, real or feigned, and some of them are definitely feeding an agenda that fits their values or appeals to people who now have an angry take on popular culture. But, frankly, when some guy makes a 8 minutes negative analysis to a 2 minutes trailer, even if the trailer is densely packed, I would never trust that guy. Save your analysis for when you have actually seen the stuff that matters, aka the film.
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Harrison Ford is far too old to be playing Indiana Jones.
That's not a cheap ageist comment. It's painfully obvious he's miscast due to getting old.
Put it another way...
Do you think any cinema goers saw Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1981, and as they left the cinema they said "that was a cool film. I can't wait to see a 80 year old Indiana Jones!"
No. Anyone that enjoyed the original trilogy never said "oooh, let's have more Indiana Jones films when he's very old and grumpy!"
Likewise, no James Bond fan ever watched Dr.No and said "be cool to see a 80 year old Bond."
Disney/Lucasfilm are selling the public a bogus product. The whole point of Indiana Jones is he's a man in his physical prime finding lost treasure and defeating the bad guys. George Lucas didn't create a hero to reach eighty years of age. Unfortunately, Hollywood always chases the dollar so they couldn't leave the franchise alone. They has to jump-start it again in 2008 with the much disliked Kingdom of thr Crystal Skull,and now, in 2023 it's even more creaky and ready for retirement.
However, you have hit on something that all movies face. The act of taking an audience out of the story. We will know that Harrison is not doing all the stunts and we will have to suspend our disbelief. If the story is engrossing and the action believable then this becomes an easier task. On my first watch of SF I was so caught up in the story Silva's breakout was not questioned, however on subsequent views I started to see how non-sensical it was. However if our hero is riding a horse into a subway and that hero is clearly a stunt person, then we are taken out of the action in the moment.
People are critical of Waller-Bridge being in the movie, but a younger sidekick was always going to be needed for this movie to help bring some reality to the action situations. Much like Mutt was supposed to be that guy for the last movie. However people don't come to watch the sidekick swing from vines, they come to see Indy do it. It will be fascinating to see how this movie pulls off the young side kick. All reviews I have seen say that her role is underdeveloped and changes within the movie itself. Much like Mutt it seems that people are resentful of Ford sharing the stage.
As you have stated Hollywood is a business and while it has a creative side to it, the big studios are really only concerned with making money. It is up to the talent to make a story that is engaging, interesting and worthy of investment. In this case the studio is clearly pushing the chips in on a last adventure. They are milking the cow and we can debate whether the cow is dead. Will the milk taste sweet and be plentiful? Or will it be curdled and a trickle? Time shall tell, early signs are somewhere in between.
I say lets ride with Indy one last time. Or at least the Indy played by Ford. Because at some point a studio head will say "you know we could recast the role and have another actor play the part". When that day comes a new discussion will arise, but for now lets watch our fedora wearing hero get the send-off he deserves!
Which isn't to say that it's not compromised by it. I think, when you think of sequels, it's interesting to think whether they're a strong enough idea to have been commissioned if the previous film didn't exist, and certainly the idea of a film about an adventuring archaeologist in his 70s in NYC in 1969, who used to hunt after treasures and fight Nazis in the 40s, and goes on one last big hunt for treasure... well it does sound a bit messy and not exactly the clean concept of Raiders. But, I don't think it sounds intrinsically bad either, and there's scope for an interesting story and themes. Fingers crossed.
I managed to get a DoD poster from the cinema last night, and it's a thing of beauty. With this and new Williams score, that's almost reason enough for this film to exist anyway, so I'm already up on the deal.
This belongs in a museum!
This film looks great. Can't wait to see it.
Thanks for sharing @mtm you're the best.
He is not. If I remember correctly, Indiana Jones was born in 1899. Therefore, he is 69 or 70 in this film.
I'm loving this movie more and more and I haven't seen it yet.
https://www.blu-ray.com/Indiana-Jones-and-the-Dial-of-Destiny/574252/#Review
Looking good to me.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/indiana_jones_and_the_dial_of_destiny
The things these guys are saying...well, they resonate with me. I'll form my own opinion, but these don't bode well for the film.
https://open.spotify.com/track/48HExDxaVyZ3CEaZslrg9g?si=0d3c7e4dfd2c46d2
He shared this a month ago, but I didn't want to ruin the mood here before people have a chance to see it soon, and, of course, I'll see it anyway on Wednesday, when it's released in France.
There weren't any reshoots, the stories about those are bogus. I'm sure they edited the film but there's been no sign that it changed significantly in that process.
I scoffed at the ideas of reshoots and defended what Mangold was saying that there were none; but recent quotes from Ford , one’s that he is on video saying, is causing me doubt. I do think there were reshoots; to what extent I don’t know.
I’m not sure that’s the case with Indy, but we won’t know until things come out years later. More importantly, most of us haven’t seen the film ourselves to form our own opinions. There’s a danger to having your opinion made up by others before having seen it, so you go into a viewing with the movie already viewing things from a perspective.