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I liked Shia's character enough to enjoy KOTCS, and I love Phoebe's character in DOD. Also, if PWB had a measurable influence on the NTTD script, I commend her for that, since I love NTTD. As for the Indy films, best female actress in the franchise (sorry, Karen Allen...we love you too).
Enjoyed it more than KOTCS and TOD.
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7/10
The dissolve happens with the LucasFilm logo (the third to appear, after Disney and Paramount), as it turns into a lock.
https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/indiana-jones-dial-of-destiny-international-box-office-misfire-1235660093/
Where I think DOD will be better than Flash is in lasting power at the Box Office. I suspect that it won't drop by 71% in it's second weekend.
I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't comment one way or the other about it's merits. Looking forward to seeing it.
Yes, following Last Crusade and having such a similar central father/son dynamic, it's rather a crime that after the lovely arc Indy and Henry have in TLC, KOTCS has no idea what to do with Indy and Mutt. They start out getting along quite fine, and end up getting along quite fine.
Imagine if Mutt had fallen out with Indy properly after learning he's his dad, maybe even being persuaded by Spalko to join her for a little while. Y'know: have something happen with the characters a bit.
It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Spielberg had done DOD on his own as originally planned. But in the end he wasn't really interested, and I think I'd rather have a good director who wants to be there than a great one who doesn't.
He just doesn’t have the screen presence to fill those shoes.
I guess I can agree with that. But they disposed of his role well enough in DOD.
Yes and the little scene were Indy talks about him is the best scene of the film imo.
Back in 2008 they casted him because he was pretty famous among younger audiences and that helped boosting the interest of teenagers for a film that was basically a legacy sequel. It worked from this standpoint. Overall Skull made really a lot given its so so reception (it had a lower Cinemascore than DoD).
I must say that tonight was the time that I first heard about a "Cinemascore", in the wake of myself stating that I don't give a s...t about box office proceeds in this case. So let DOD bomb. From my individual point of view, it just shows that the general public is not interested in this type of movie. Let them watch what they want instead, as long as I still find something I like in the future.
He's alright, he's not nothing at all and manages not to be irritating in a role which could be. If not him, I'm not sure who else you could have cast at the time.
I could imagine someone like Ryan Gosling being really good with Ford in that kind of thing, but he hadn't really broken out by then and is five years older.
Of course, Shia never seemed happy working under that environment and burned his bridges. I especially got that sense with the film HONEY BOY where it opens with Lucas Hedges playing Shia’s analog working on a big blockbuster film, but looking unfulfilled in his life.
Lucas wasn’t responsible for CGI animals.
Obviously the box office is important to the production company. But I watch a movie for me.
I was entertained by DoD. There was some stuff I didn’t like, some stuff I thought could’ve been done better, and some stuff I loved.
My biggest positive was Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones. They didn’t mess with the character, the acknowledged his age, and didn’t imo embarrass him in his final adventure.
In fact the film presents him the first time at age in a way that shows they (and Harrison Ford himself) have no reservations and nothing to hide really. And that serves the film very well.
It's a bit doubtful I'll get to go, but we'll see.......................
I'm all in.
Not everything we see is Ford, I get that. But what is him is nothing but impressive.
And it follows an Indy film that has become heavily derided in the past 15 years.
It's subjective but 70 ish could be the maximum age to convince as an action star? Sylvester Stallone was 72 in the final Rambo film: Last Blood. Never seen the film but I guess a 70 ish old Rambo might be credible to some of the potential audience.
Pierce Brosnan is 70. Maybe he could be convincing as a retired James Bond returning for one final mission. But an 80 year old Indiana Jones is too much of a stretch. In terms of fight sequences/leaping from fast cars etc is seems too unrealistic. Also, film makers can patronise older actors. You get younger actors cast playing their children or whatever and they treat the older hero as past it. If Brosnan returned to play Bond you might end up with a varation of Jinx played by a 20 something year old. "Hey, old man, leave the secret agent stuff to me."
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Yes I agree with this. It felt like a missed opportunity with Shia. It made it worse that he appeared in the worst CGI action scenes - with the monkeys swinging from the trees, and sword fighting and doing the leg splits while balancing on top of a jeep. Both scenes are absolute garbage and ruin the film.
And Mac didn't add anything to the film at all really. He's a double-crosser, then not a double-crosser, then he is again, but Indy still wants to save him anyway, then he says he'll be allright knowing he's gong to die.
Pointless character.