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True and I have done a lot of extra hours recently, I keep trying to tell myself I need to find a better work/training and life/recovery balance.
That's basically the "Old Man" archetype, which has been there ever since the 1980's with The Dark Knight Returns, and, friendly reminder, nobody back then complained about Batman being a "grizzly old man" and "outshadowed by a woman".
Bondywondy's complains are just the effects of living in a modern society.
I know the feeling. I work in film/media but have a lot of healthcare training, and since Covid I have been balancing the two. There's not enough hours in the week as a result. I had my first holiday in four years just last week, and there's a constant sense of unnerve while trying to relax that is hard to shake.
No, he gives it back to the village when he returns with the kids. He learns there's something better than fortune and glory, which is very similar to one of the lessons Helena learns in DoD (I suspect that's why she has a kid sidekick as an intention echo of Indy in ToD).
Among the other lessons she learns of course is that she's not self-sufficient, and indeed it's best not to be. Indy is older and has already learned this (and indeed spots that she's wrong about that), however he thinks that the people he needs to share his life with have all gone and there's nothing left for him. But just as he shows Helena that she needs family, she shows him that he does still have a family.
But y'know: some people just see a woman and say 'woke'.
I thought that's what he meant by returning; as in he didn't lose it.
Edit: but then again, he doesn't lose the Ark either. So nevermind!
I can relate during Covid I worked 50 hours a week plus and refused to take time off I was totally burnt myself out.
It is difficult when you get set in a mind set, plus I am very stubborn and don't always immediately take on board good advice with regards to myself. Running is my escape and has helped a lot and I invested in a good Garmin watch earlier in the year which has helped me take care of myself better with fitness and nutrition... occasionally I do still push myself too much.
Switching off and relaxing is a positive habit we can get back it just takes time.
Right. The Helena we saw introduced at the beginning of the movie would have likely stolen it to sell off for own fortune and glory. She could have also done the right thing and turn it in at a museum, but she leaves it at Indy’s place so he’ll have that honor of turning it in himself.
Oh sorry, with you. I think the Dial is a bit unique as he doesn't get to keep any of them as a prize up until now, although he does certainly win them, yes.
It's also the first one he starts out owning! One bit that I think is a bit weird is Indy tells Mason in NYC that the Antikythera is 'just an ancient hunk of gears', which is kind of weird for an archeologist, as it's actually incredibly important for being just that! I kind of get what he means: they seem to want it for some more important reason, but really if they just wanted to steal it for its monetary value, it's still more than a hunk of gears! :)
Ah nice, are you in the UK? It has finally got nice, hasn't it. I've been stuck indoors working on an urgent pitch.
Yes in the UK, August was a bit of a wash out and the Annual Leave I took coincided with all the rain unfortunately. Weather forecast predicts a great week ahead we are due 27c on Saturday which is very good for here.
Good luck with your pitch, hopefully you will get to enjoy the sun over the next few days.
Fact remains, I like(d) DOD very much, and PWB's character and performance are two of its main assets for me. But at 66, I may no longer be unsure enough of my masculinity to judge otherwise.
Most of the ‘anti’ commentariat of YouTube and here have got this one wrong — but they’re never going to admit that, since they made their mind up before shooting even finished. And the majority of their audience is just hard enough of thinking that they can stick it.
The ‘other side’ manages the same stupid trick — they did for Ghost In The Shell years ago, with pretty much the same result.
Not quite sure which of the two blocs did for Blade Runner 2049, and I think both sides went at NTTD with their heads up their rear.
Films ok so far, works quite well, Ford is doing fine too.
Yes indeed.
I don't even find her that annoying, but she is supposed to be a flawed character: as you say, that's the point.
Well said, I think that indeed is a large part of it.
Most of the “ anti commentariat “ of YouTube just call it as they see it.This movie looked like a bad idea from the very beginning for a variety of reasons ( Fords age,KKs incompetence as a producer,Disneys woke agenda, and their track record of wrecking Lucas created properties).
Most of the YouTube community have given almost unanimous praise to the likes of John Wick 4 and Mission Impossible 7 for the simple fact that they thought they were great movies!
And for the record,MI7 does female characters right.You have at least four main female characters ( Played by Rebecca Ferguson,Vanessa Kirby,Hayley Atwell,and Pom Klementieff ) and they are all unique and intersting.
Crucially,Ethan Hunt isn’t emasculated as an action hero.Atwells character gets the better of him a couple of times but it’s Cruise who’s driving off that cliff on a motorbike.
In fact,Hunts relationship with Ilsa Faust is a highlight of the series so far.Those two are so alike and are great to watch together.Also,Cruise,despite now being 60 plus,is still young and believable enough as an action hero unlike Harrison Ford ( Love the guy but there’s no denying his age was a big reason the action in Dial was the weakest in the series ).
There's no point; they can't understand it. If it's said out loud literally on screen, that must be the truth apparently. Ironically, they actually unconditionally believe what a woman is telling them.
There’s absolutely no forgiving that knockout punch she gave to Indy though.Utterly embarrassing and it left a real sickening feeling in my stomach.Seriously,they thought audiences would enjoy seeing him humiliated and treated like an invalid? ( And before someone brings up Marion striking Indy in Raiders,that’s an entirely seperate thing as it was an effective way of conveying their frosty relationship at that point ).
I’m really convinced the writers having Indy shot and mostly taken out of commission during the final half hour was the worst mistake they could have made.We want to see Indy as a hero,saving the day,with a little help from his friends yes,but alas,Fords age meant that they couldn’t even have the traditional fist fight with a hulking giant ( It was left to Short Round MK 2 to do it )
Dial of Destiny as a knock-out punch? That works great for me.
Is this a rhetorical question, or did you genuinely think that the filmmakers put Indy through an emotional wringer because they thought audience would, in your words, “enjoy” seeing him being emotionally distraught?
It’s pretty clear that the filmmakers wanted to make a film that could not only be enjoyable in parts but also tug at those heart strings seeing Indy be the most vulnerable he’s ever been.
Yours and others’ comments come off no different than the vocal minority of viewers that hated OHMSS in 1969 because having James Bond become more vulnerable, fall in love and get married “demasculated” him, therefore “ruining” the male fantasy of Bond. Yeah those voices certainly existed back then and were part of the reason OHMSS was often dismissed as the black sheep of the franchise for a good 20 years before home video practically gave it new life and fans.
Agreed.That bit was pretty cool.But yeah,the film lacked genuine punch the air heroic moments for Indy.I feel if Spielberg had directed this he would have been sure to include those.
@mtm you seriously rock, my friend! You post all I would have, were I possessed of your eloquence. :)>-
That is so cute! Well done, kids!!
You’re very kind, thank you :)
Here’s something fun: I don’t think it works because the performance is flattened (and I suspect that’s why they didn’t do it) but it’s interesting to hear regardless:
'In a strategic blunder in May, Disney held the first screening of Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny at Cannes, the world’s snootiest film festival, from which the first 12 reviews begot an initial score of 33 percent. “What they should’ve done,” says Publicist No. 1, “was have simultaneous screenings in the States for critics who might’ve been more friendly.” A month and a half later, Dial of Destiny bombed at the box office even though friendly critics eventually lifted its rating to 69 percent. “They had a low Rotten Tomatoes score just sitting out there for six weeks before release, and that was deadly,” says a third publicist.'
https://www.vulture.com/article/rotten-tomatoes-movie-rating.html#_ga=2.66153518.1263227526.1693848800-163696398.1693848800
The premiere of Top Gun:Maverick was held at Cannes the year before right? It got a great reception from what I remember ( Because it is great obviously)
Edit: Correction: It premiered at Cinemacon in April 2022,and screened at Cannes a few days later where it got a five minute standing ovation.